Game 77 April 3, 2011: Mavs at Blazers

JES12 · Post #101 » by **JES12** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 3:41 am

ahonui06 wrote:And why the hell does RC always change rotations. He's a clown of a coach.

Yeah, I'm sure any coach trying various lineups to see what works is a clown.

from_ro_to_dirk · Post #102 » by **from_ro_to_dirk** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 3:42 am

if Phil Jackson truly thinks he's the best coach ever then he should come here and try to fix this **** of a team.

Maverick86 · Post #103 » by **Maverick86** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 3:43 am

chrisjacob wrote:If we want Roddy to develop...He and We NEED a DIFFERENT COACH!!!
there are so many candidate
Larry Brown
Rick Adelman
John Calipari
Jerry Sloan

pick you want?

Larry Brown - These Mavs whon't play hard every night for him.
Rick Adelman - I wouldn't mind him at all.
John Calipari - :lol:

Jerry Sloan - This is not the kind of team that he could win with.

JES12 · Post #104 » by **JES12** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 3:45 am

Ice32 wrote:Also, for the last 5:03 mins of the game, the Blazers did not hit a FG.

Considering Stevenson missed 2 threes, Cardinal missed a three and Mahinmi missed 2 FTs over the last 4 mins, the Mavs could have easily brought that game alot closer.

I don't know why you mention 5:03 and then go to 4 minute mark unless you want to hide Dirk's miss. Oh, And Ian missed ONE free throw.

from_ro_to_dirk · Post #105 » by **from_ro_to_dirk** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 3:46 am

We need a restructuring from top to bottom. Cuban needs to hire a top GM with a track record and allow THAT guy to pick the next coach. Then Cuban needs to get the fcuk out of the way and sit in the corner with his wallet open. why did he go cheap when we were right on the cusp?

Maverick86 · Post #106 » by **Maverick86** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 3:49 am

If Gerald Wallace helps the Blazers put the Mavs out the playoffs Cuban is gonna look real bad for not doing that deal.

Ice32 · Post #107 » by **Ice32** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 3:51 am

JES12 wrote:
Ice32 wrote:Also, for the last 5:03 mins of the game, the Blazers did not hit a FG.

Considering Stevenson missed 2 threes, Cardinal missed a three and Mahinmi missed 2 FTs over the last 4 mins, the Mavs could have easily brought that game alot closer.

I don't know why you mention 5:03 and then go to 4 minute mark unless you want to hide Dirk's miss. Oh, And Ian missed ONE free throw.

My bad, Dirk missed a layup and Mahinmi did hit 1 of 2 FTs at the end.

Still, had Stevenson and Cardinal at least hit a three each, it would have been alot more interesting at the end.

Ice32 · Post #108 » by **Ice32** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 3:55 am

ESPN corrected the play-by-play, Brewer hit 2 FTs as well with 2:59 left?

If thats the case:

Terry - 26 mins = 1/6 FGs, 1/1 FTs, 4 pts and -14

Brewer - 4 mins = 1/1 FGs, 2-2 FTs, 4 pts and +10

Mavs2theFinals · Post #109 » by **Mavs2theFinals** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:08 am

This team is going nowhere

JES12 · Post #110 » by **JES12** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:09 am

More interesting, yes. It is that guard penetration that Roddy provided that we have been missing ever since we traded Devin Harris. It was that penetration that got us to the finals. Not saying that Roddy scoring or making assist is enough, but to have multiple defenders chase him while several guys are open and the defense is left chasing is really missing when Kidd and Terry are on the court. Even when Roddy didn't penetrate, they had to defend him the same. THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN IF RODDY IS A SHOOTING GUARD!!!!

mffl_14 · Post #111 » by **mffl_14** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:14 am

Jinra wrote:Go Rangers!

I missed the game tonight but sounds like I didn't miss to much. Anyways just reading through all the posts and I felt like the quote above was the most accurate one to comment on. So on that note... Go Rangers

Post #112 » by **studcrackers** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:15 am

terrible effort all around today

Ice32 · Post #113 » by **Ice32** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:17 am

JES12 wrote:More interesting, yes. It is that guard penetration that Roddy provided that we have been missing ever since we traded Devin Harris. It was that penetration that got us to the finals. Not saying that Roddy scoring or making assist is enough, but to have multiple defenders chase him while several guys are open and the defense is left chasing is really missing when Kidd and Terry are on the court. Even when Roddy didn't penetrate, they had to defend him the same. THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN IF RODDY IS A SHOOTING GUARD!!!!

I like the idea of experimenting with Roddy as the PG and Brewer as the SG for a few mins each game/qtr, both are lighting quick, above average defenders and can get to the rim. Kidd and Terry either have great games or really bad ones - like today. They were a combined 1/12 FGs for 4 pts in 53 mins.

Roddy needs to drive more to stay on the court, and RC needs to give him some slack. Brewer was brought here for 2 reasons - youth and defense. Why not give him 5-10 mins each game now until the Playoffs start, and see how productive he is. Hes an energy guy, so he should be utilised more.

Effigy · Post #114 » by **Effigy** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:18 am

You guys are making way too much of this game. It was the 4th game in five nights for you, it was on the road, your playoff position is locked in, and Portland is a team you are likely to see then. Why bother? Why show us what you're going to give us in the playoffs if it gets that far? You'll have a very usefull game tape to motivate your players and show them what we will do. We'll have nothing to point to from this game. There are no back-to-backs in the playoffs, you guys will be fine. You should have made a move to get Melo or Wallace, but even without that, you shouldn't assume you're one and done. The Lakers will likely get the 1 seed, meaning you wouldn't even face them until the WCF, and they'll have to play OKC, who with Perkins, stands the best chance of anyone of beating them, so you could only have to get past the Thunder to get to the Finals. Don't get down over one loss that quite frankly didn't mean a whole hell of a lot to your team.

crucifixx · Post #115 » by **crucifixx** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:18 am

JES12 wrote:More interesting, yes. It is that guard penetration that Roddy provided that we have been missing ever since we traded Devin Harris. It was that penetration that got us to the finals. Not saying that Roddy scoring or making assist is enough, but to have multiple defenders chase him while several guys are open and the defense is left chasing is really missing when Kidd and Terry are on the court. Even when Roddy didn't penetrate, they had to defend him the same. THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN IF RODDY IS A SHOOTING GUARD!!!!

Frankly I do not see all those "Roddy can't play PG" thing. I think he plays PG just fine. Not like he's being asked to do too much. Hell even Kidd doesn't do anything in our offense, he just brings up the ball and then make some pass and then sit on the corner waiting for a kickout to shoot a 3. So I don't know what the fuss is about. At the beginning of his comeback, Carlisle already acknowledged that Roddy knows all of our playbook by head anyway. Plus Roddy's driving ability is very valuable comes the time when the set doesn't work out. So I really should think Roddy should just play PG. It would also negate any type of mismatch that we carry on the defensive end.

Ice32 · Post #116 » by **Ice32** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:30 am

Ligatsa wrote:
JES12 wrote:More interesting, yes. It is that guard penetration that Roddy provided that we have been missing ever since we traded Devin Harris. It was that penetration that got us to the finals. Not saying that Roddy scoring or making assist is enough, but to have multiple defenders chase him while several guys are open and the defense is left chasing is really missing when Kidd and Terry are on the court. Even when Roddy didn't penetrate, they had to defend him the same. THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN IF RODDY IS A SHOOTING GUARD!!!!

Frankly I do not see all those "Roddy can't play PG" thing. I think he plays PG just fine. Not like he's being asked to do too much. Hell even Kidd doesn't do anything in our offense, he just brings up the ball and then make some pass and then sit on the corner waiting for a kickout to shoot a 3. So I don't know what the fuss is about. At the beginning of his comeback, Carlisle already acknowledged that Roddy knows all of our playbook by head anyway. Plus Roddy's driving ability is very valuable comes the time when the set doesn't work out. So I really should think Roddy should just play PG. It would also negate any type of mismatch that we carry on the defensive end.

Well if Kidd is comfotable playing off the bench next season (like he has mentioned) then this may work. But Roddy needs to make smarter plays, before hes thrown in as the starting PG. Yes I agree he should get more mins at the position, but with Barea here, thats hard. Maybe Barea wont be here next season?

dirkules_41 · Post #117 » by **dirkules_41** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:00 am

Effigy wrote:You guys are making way too much of this game.

Have you been following the Mavs lately? We most certainly aren't making way too much of this game. This game is just one game in a line of many recently. And to be honest I don't think there is a way we can make it out of the first round at all.

chrisjacob · Post #118 » by **chrisjacob** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:52 am

Ice32 wrote:
Ligatsa wrote:
JES12 wrote:More interesting, yes. It is that guard penetration that Roddy provided that we have been missing ever since we traded Devin Harris. It was that penetration that got us to the finals. Not saying that Roddy scoring or making assist is enough, but to have multiple defenders chase him while several guys are open and the defense is left chasing is really missing when Kidd and Terry are on the court. Even when Roddy didn't penetrate, they had to defend him the same. THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN IF RODDY IS A SHOOTING GUARD!!!!

Frankly I do not see all those "Roddy can't play PG" thing. I think he plays PG just fine. Not like he's being asked to do too much. Hell even Kidd doesn't do anything in our offense, he just brings up the ball and then make some pass and then sit on the corner waiting for a kickout to shoot a 3. So I don't know what the fuss is about. At the beginning of his comeback, Carlisle already acknowledged that Roddy knows all of our playbook by head anyway. Plus Roddy's driving ability is very valuable comes the time when the set doesn't work out. So I really should think Roddy should just play PG. It would also negate any type of mismatch that we carry on the defensive end.

Well if Kidd is comfotable playing off the bench next season (like he has mentioned) then this may work. But Roddy needs to make smarter plays, before hes thrown in as the starting PG. Yes I agree he should get more mins at the position, but with Barea here, thats hard. Maybe Barea wont be here next season?

You've Gotta be kidding me? As long as Rick stay BAREA stay! :cry:

Captain_Obvious · Post #119 » by **Captain_Obvious** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 2:54 pm

chrisjacob wrote:DIRK had enough! coast to coast and 1!!!

Reminds me of the defining play that got Avery fired. Not a good sign when Dirk does that...

dirkules_41 · Post #120 » by **dirkules_41** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:39 pm

Captain_Obvious wrote:
chrisjacob wrote:DIRK had enough! coast to coast and 1!!!

Reminds me of the defining play that got Avery fired. Not a good sign when Dirk does that...

Sure this just shows that your team is whack. I know that myself from playing (at another level of course

). But it's pretty much comparable: I play 4 as well and if you just don't get the ball in key moments even though you're the team's best player but your guards just keep turning it over or shooting it it'll drive you made and lead to coast to coast plays. Which obviously are driven by anger and frustration.
Mavs really need to figure sth out soon. The current state of this team is embarassing.