Harrison Barnes

[Ganji]

He played the 4 when the Warriors went small ball death squad. He's not a very good rebounder though.

he was just inconsistent, he had the games where he would grab some real man rebounds, and then just be shade of himself the next game. hope the big paycheck will help him gain some stability, maybe he was stressing to much about contract year... have no clue.

[k-lynch201]

And what about Anderson now? Is he trade bait? How does he show his trade worth if Barnes is taking his starting role. Im assuming we plan on a good amount of small ball lineups, which is fine as thats the way the league is heading.

Plenty of minutes for both guys if Anderson proves he is ready for the minutes. Barnes likely is Dirk's primary backup at the 4 leaving 30 minutes or more at the 3 for Anderson, others. Justin Anderson as a starter is a borderline disaster unless he takes major steps. He's not ready for that--or certainly wasn't last year. But Anderson as a regular rotation guy? Yeah I think we can hope for that.

Right now the rotation looks like this imo:

Bogut/Salah/Powell/Dirk -- yes I think all 4 of these guys will regularly get minutes at center
Dirk/Barnes/Powell -- a bit hopeful Powell shoots it well enough to play some 4. I think that would be ideal.
Barnes/Anderson
Matthews/Harris
DWill/Barea

And I'd imagine we look to target another wing still in free agency. Kevin Martin is kinda who I expect if the market is soft enough for him, but also think guys like Gerald Green or Randy Foye.

Im also hoping for Gerald Green or someone of his caliber to be what would seem to be our last meaningful signing.

[Suka Bongcic]

He played the 4 when the Warriors went small ball death squad. He's not a very good rebounder though.

he was just inconsistent, he had the games where he would grab some real man rebounds, and then just be shade of himself the next game. hope the big paycheck will help him gain some stability, maybe he was stressing to much about contract year... have no clue.

Stress or maybe he was reading the message boards too much and all the hatred he was given from 99% of the Warriors fan bled his enthusiasm. For as great as oracle arena is, the fans on the message boards are just too much. Maybe they'll be happy now that they have a constructed super team in which title after title is business as usual whereas anything but a title is a collossal failure. Not sure what's so fun about that. I'm happy to root on my boy Falcon and watch the team grow together like I watched that warrior team grow the last 4 years. One thing is for sure, they have the right coach for the job. Carlisle is one of the best ever. I can't wait for the season

[Mr B]

And what about Anderson now? Is he trade bait? How does he show his trade worth if Barnes is taking his starting role. Im assuming we plan on a good amount of small ball lineups, which is fine as thats the way the league is heading.

Plenty of minutes for both guys if Anderson proves he is ready for the minutes. Barnes likely is Dirk's primary backup at the 4 leaving 30 minutes or more at the 3 for Anderson, others. Justin Anderson as a starter is a borderline disaster unless he takes major steps. He's not ready for that--or certainly wasn't last year. But Anderson as a regular rotation guy? Yeah I think we can hope for that.

Right now the rotation looks like this imo:

Bogut/Salah/Powell/Dirk -- yes I think all 4 of these guys will regularly get minutes at center
Dirk/Barnes/Powell -- a bit hopeful Powell shoots it well enough to play some 4. I think that would be ideal.
Barnes/Anderson
Matthews/Harris
DWill/Barea

And I'd imagine we look to target another wing still in free agency. Kevin Martin is kinda who I expect if the market is soft enough for him, but also think guys like Gerald Green or Randy Foye.

Im also hoping for Gerald Green or someone of his caliber to be what would seem to be our last meaningful signing.

Tim MacMahon (@espn_macmahon)
7/4/16, 9:08 PM
The Mavs are close to agreeing on a two-year, $6 million deal with guard Seth Curry, according to league... es.pn/29pLM8A

[cmavswin]

i think this team is set up where however the season plays out they will be in good shape. If it succeeds (which is possible with both Houston and OKC taking FA hits) than full speed ahead. If not than you have two very moveable contracts and a lot of young players under contract the following season. Still don't like the signing of Barnes but I want him to prove me very wrong.

[The Sparest]

i think this team is set up where however the season plays out they will be in good shape. If it succeeds (which is possible with both Houston and OKC taking FA hits) than full speed ahead. If not than you have two very moveable contracts and a lot of young players under contract the following season. Still don't like the signing of Barnes but I want him to prove me very wrong.

The Mavs have constructed Schrodinger's Tank. If we get lucky, we're in the playoffs, if not, we're in the lottery.

[daoneandonly]

I think our weakest position is by far PG. If we trot out a rotation if Williams-Barea-Harris again, we surely wont make the playoffs. I hope a trade is in the works.

Like the Curry signing, but he's more an undersized 2.

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[Darren]

But what are the trade you look for? Basically we can only trade Barea and Harris at this point. Both of them are PG. I don't believe McGee and Evans can net us anything. If we can, great job.

[something47]

I think that a lot of people on this thread have missed a potential change in philosophy that the Mavs FO has made by the signing and trades they have made. The Mavs tried the FA approach and have gotten burned every year. I know all the fans are tired of it and I think the FO has realized money only attracts good plays.

Things that they hopefully learned:
- Superstars don't want a blank slate, they want a well built team thats one player away (that one player being them).

That being said, the Mavs have had most of their success through trading for players. Most players who come to the Mavs, and the Mavs would like to keep don't end up leaving. The problem for the Mavs has always been getting the players here to begin with. With that said, the signing and trading for these players means they have some tradable assets. Do I love the Barnes signing, no. But do I like what it means for the team, definitely.

Here is what I take away:
- We are younger, more athletic, better defensively, and a better rebounding team
- We slightly improved our team shooting (assuming Seth and Green are better)
- We are not as good offensively (but I think the improvement defensively and rebounding the ball will more than offset this)
- We finally have tradable assets (Essentially everyone on the team not named Dirk)

Overall I am happy with the move, and hope they really put more effort into player development. Still think the Mavs will make a move, possibly trading for a PG like Rubio or Bledsoe?

[Darren]

I think that a lot of people on this thread have missed a potential change in philosophy that the Mavs FO has made by the signing and trades they have made. The Mavs tried the FA approach and have gotten burned every year. I know all the fans are tired of it and I think the FO has realized money only attracts good plays.

Things that they hopefully learned:
- Superstars don't want a blank slate, they want a well built team thats one player away (that one player being them).

That being said, the Mavs have had most of their success through trading for players. Most players who come to the Mavs, and the Mavs would like to keep don't end up leaving. The problem for the Mavs has always been getting the players here to begin with. With that said, the signing and trading for these players means they have some tradable assets. Do I love the Barnes signing, no. But do I like what it means for the team, definitely.

Here is what I take away:
- We are younger, more athletic, better defensively, and a better rebounding team
- We slightly improved our team shooting (assuming Seth and Green are better)
- We are not as good offensively (but I think the improvement defensively and rebounding the ball will more than offset this)
- We finally have tradable assets (Essentially everyone on the team not named Dirk)

Overall I am happy with the move, and hope they really put more effort into player development. Still think the Mavs will make a move, possibly trading for a PG like Rubio or Bledsoe?

Which Green are you referring to? We don't have any Green but Blue.

[dirkules_41]

I think that a lot of people on this thread have missed a potential change in philosophy that the Mavs FO has made by the signing and trades they have made. The Mavs tried the FA approach and have gotten burned every year. I know all the fans are tired of it and I think the FO has realized money only attracts good plays.

Things that they hopefully learned:
- Superstars don't want a blank slate, they want a well built team thats one player away (that one player being them).

That being said, the Mavs have had most of their success through trading for players. Most players who come to the Mavs, and the Mavs would like to keep don't end up leaving. The problem for the Mavs has always been getting the players here to begin with. With that said, the signing and trading for these players means they have some tradable assets. Do I love the Barnes signing, no. But do I like what it means for the team, definitely.

Here is what I take away:
- We are younger, more athletic, better defensively, and a better rebounding team
- We slightly improved our team shooting (assuming Seth and Green are better)
- We are not as good offensively (but I think the improvement defensively and rebounding the ball will more than offset this)
- We finally have tradable assets (Essentially everyone on the team not named Dirk)

Overall I am happy with the move, and hope they really put more effort into player development. Still think the Mavs will make a move, possibly trading for a PG like Rubio or Bledsoe?

Which Green are you referring to? We don't have any Green but Blue.

We don't have any Blue under contract either.

Key is to get a Green and a Thompson so we can run
Curry - Green - Thompson - Barnes - Bogut

[arkuo]

^Should Wade leave Miami, I think Dragic might be available.

[Clyde Frazier]

It’s a pretty weird bind the mavs are in. Dirk is still a good player, and he doesn’t want to leave to join a better team, so you have to remain competitive. Unfortunately, that means signing anyone with some talent who wants to come here, which you might otherwise pass on to rebuild.

Hopefully barnes can get out of his late season rut and have a solid season for the mavs, but it’s hard to project how well this signing works out. I don’t think it totally hamstrings their future, though. As far as playoffs, will be tough, but dirk and carlisle always over perform. We know this.

If you’re a mavs fan and the way dirk wants to go out bothers you… then you should probably go find another team to root for.

[fuller4379]

It’s a pretty weird bind the mavs are in. Dirk is still a good player, and he doesn’t want to leave to join a better team, so you have to remain competitive. Unfortunately, that means signing anyone with some talent who wants to come here, which you might otherwise pass on to rebuild.

Hopefully barnes can get out of his late season rut and have a solid season for the mavs, but it’s hard to project how well this signing works out. I don’t think it totally hamstrings their future, though. As far as playoffs, will be tough, but dirk and carlisle always over perform. We know this.

If you’re a mavs fan and the way dirk wants to go out bothers you… then you should probably go find another team to root for.

At least the Mavs are getting younger this year with Barnes, Hammons, and Curry. Two of these three are project players, but I like Curry as a future 6th man and Hammons as a future starting center. Add Anderson to the mix and we got a nice core of young players.

[rallydurham]

Geez the mavs are in really bad shape if Matthews doesn't recover this year.

Cuban stubborn refusal to rebuild has left the mavs pretty tapped out. Perhaps theyve just been too profitable for him to do so?

[k-lynch201]

Geez the mavs are in really bad shape if Matthews doesn't recover this year.

Cuban stubborn refusal to rebuild has left the mavs pretty tapped out. Perhaps theyve just been too profitable for him to do so?

Regardless of our situation always screwing up in free agency, we find a way into the playoffs, slowly getting younger, we got our title in the Dirk era. Were somehow content by the beginning of every season.

[Phase 3]

Congrats on getting Harrison Barnes. Yes, he had a rough postseason this year...but he's a very good player. I think he'll blossom in Dallas. Wouldn't be surprised to see him average 20 ppg for you guys.

[dirkules_41]

It’s a pretty weird bind the mavs are in. Dirk is still a good player, and he doesn’t want to leave to join a better team, so you have to remain competitive. Unfortunately, that means signing anyone with some talent who wants to come here, which you might otherwise pass on to rebuild.

Hopefully barnes can get out of his late season rut and have a solid season for the mavs, but it’s hard to project how well this signing works out. I don’t think it totally hamstrings their future, though. As far as playoffs, will be tough, but dirk and carlisle always over perform. We know this.

If you’re a mavs fan and the way dirk wants to go out bothers you… then you should probably go find another team to root for.

At least the Mavs are getting younger this year with Barnes, Hammons, and Curry. Two of these three are project players, but I like Curry as a future 6th man and Hammons as a future starting center. Add Anderson to the mix and we got a nice core of young players.

Don't sleep on Powell. I believe his big contract means they must be envisioning a bigger role for him too. There's hope at last.

[Flight33]

Jeez, kind of an overpay. But whatever, that's the market.

[HMFFL]

Geez the mavs are in really bad shape if Matthews doesn't recover this year.

Cuban stubborn refusal to rebuild has left the mavs pretty tapped out. Perhaps theyve just been too profitable for him to do so?

Yes, pretty much.
Cuban must believe that it will hurt his brand if he rebuilds and that's probably accurate.