Kyrie Irving, Markieff Morris to Mavs for DFS, Spence, 2029 1st and 2027 and 2029 2nds

[Absinthe]

This team is going to look a lot like the Don Nelson Mavs teams of the past where they might score 150 points but almost no one is going to play defense. It will be fun to watch.

[arkuo]

In my 23 years as a Mavs fan, first time we had Top end Talent like this. I am excited to see how this second half of the season plays out. If Kyrie doesn’t work we now have a ton of capspace. And we lost two easily replaceable players and a 1st rd pick.

There is no way any Mavs fan should be upset unless they just wanted us to be on the treadmill forever. How else would we have even had flexibility to build around Luka. We would have realistically been waiting until 2024 when NOW we can start this off-season. Hopefully we can get Bertans out of here too this week which is probably impossible

Guess you've forgotten all about having Nash, Nowitzki, and Finley all at the same time? They were better than what you have now for sure.

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Nash became MVP caliber after he left the Mavs. Finley was never All NBA talent per se.

[Apz]

Must say Im very dissapointed in the FO for doing the desperation move of all desperation moves. Now Wood need to get his full extension right away, cause there is no going back.

With Luka, Kyrie and Wood mavs will be the deadliest offense in nba. Defense will make us wanna puke. Since we cant get a star anymore because trading the 29 pick, its 8 years til we can try to trade for one again, use a 1st to get bogdan and noel for like bertans and powel(or mcgee), cause trading for irving is the all in of all all ins.

Well to be fair we got more than a star, this is a bonafide all-NBA calibre player. He comes with some asterisks but the price is far from high and we have the ability to extend his contract and he'll never be worthless as this very situation showed.

Let get this straight. WE do not have the ability to extend his contract, Kyrie got the ability to extend it. Its a big difference, and just like with KP, mavs will not have any chance to negotiate so it will be a max contract or he walks. Its a big difference.

[Zeno]

Good luck Mavs fans. Honestly hope this works out for you. Aside from the obvious concerns, defence might be an issue. I think you should move Wood and some 1sts for someone to shore up the defence. If you could get Turner that might be ideal.

Pacers just extended Turner, so Mavs aren’t getting him this year.

He is still allowed to be traded though I admit it is probably unlikely.

[arkuo]

Must say Im very dissapointed in the FO for doing the desperation move of all desperation moves. Now Wood need to get his full extension right away, cause there is no going back.

With Luka, Kyrie and Wood mavs will be the deadliest offense in nba. Defense will make us wanna puke. Since we cant get a star anymore because trading the 29 pick, its 8 years til we can try to trade for one again, use a 1st to get bogdan and noel for like bertans and powel(or mcgee), cause trading for irving is the all in of all all ins.

Well to be fair we got more than a star, this is a bonafide all-NBA calibre player. He comes with some asterisks but the price is far from high and we have the ability to extend his contract and he'll never be worthless as this very situation showed.

Let get this straight. WE do not have the ability to extend his contract, Kyrie got the ability to extend it. Its a big difference, and just like with KP, mavs will not have any chance to negotiate so it will be a max contract or he walks. Its a big difference.

Who in their right mind would offer less than a max to Kyrie Irving?

What are you planning to give, the full MLE?

[dirkules_41]

Must say Im very dissapointed in the FO for doing the desperation move of all desperation moves. Now Wood need to get his full extension right away, cause there is no going back.

With Luka, Kyrie and Wood mavs will be the deadliest offense in nba. Defense will make us wanna puke. Since we cant get a star anymore because trading the 29 pick, its 8 years til we can try to trade for one again, use a 1st to get bogdan and noel for like bertans and powel(or mcgee), cause trading for irving is the all in of all all ins.

Well to be fair we got more than a star, this is a bonafide all-NBA calibre player. He comes with some asterisks but the price is far from high and we have the ability to extend his contract and he'll never be worthless as this very situation showed.

Let get this straight. WE do not have the ability to extend his contract, Kyrie got the ability to extend it. Its a big difference, and just like with KP, mavs will not have any chance to negotiate so it will be a max contract or he walks. Its a big difference.

Unlike KP - as much as I like him - Kyrie is actually a max player though, the asterisks obviously come in all areas off court.

[SkyBill40]

In my 23 years as a Mavs fan, first time we had Top end Talent like this. I am excited to see how this second half of the season plays out. If Kyrie doesn’t work we now have a ton of capspace. And we lost two easily replaceable players and a 1st rd pick.

There is no way any Mavs fan should be upset unless they just wanted us to be on the treadmill forever. How else would we have even had flexibility to build around Luka. We would have realistically been waiting until 2024 when NOW we can start this off-season. Hopefully we can get Bertans out of here too this week which is probably impossible

Guess you've forgotten all about having Nash, Nowitzki, and Finley all at the same time? They were better than what you have now for sure.

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Nash became MVP caliber after he left the Mavs. Finley was never All NBA talent per se.

Nash was already MVP caliber and showed that while in DAL. Had Cuban decided to pay him accordingly, he would have stayed and you would have reaped the rewards of it.

Finley was an outstanding all around player. All NBA is overrated. It's a team sport and how those players work together. While having some really dominant individual talent is key, having it and getting nowhere doesn't mean much.

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[arkuo]

Guess you've forgotten all about having Nash, Nowitzki, and Finley all at the same time? They were better than what you have now for sure.

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Nash became MVP caliber after he left the Mavs. Finley was never All NBA talent per se.

Nash was already MVP caliber and showed that while in DAL. Had Cuban decided to pay him accordingly, he would have stayed and you would have reaped the rewards of it.

Finley was an outstanding all around player. All NBA is overrated. It's a team sport and how those players work together. While having some really dominant individual talent is key, having it and getting nowhere doesn't mean much.

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I guess we were watching different versions of Steve Nash in Dallas.

The Steve Nash that I saw always had an injured back.

[Mr B]

I’m curious to see if Dallas can move Bertans or THJ. If they can move Bertans contract to Utah, for example, and attach a first round pick to get them to take on his salary to agree, does Dallas do that? They might as well go all in.

Not a lot of quality bigs in the market right now. Nurkic can be had, Jakob Poetl is a free agent. In the lines of those. Nothing fancy.

I was looking at the Centers that might be available. This is what I came up with:

Mason Plumlee
Mo Bamba
Clint Capela
Jakob Poeltl

I’m unsure about Capela’s availability but he would be ideal (playing next to Wood). I agree nothing fancy but very serviceable.

[Forbes]

In my 23 years as a Mavs fan, first time we had Top end Talent like this. I am excited to see how this second half of the season plays out. If Kyrie doesn’t work we now have a ton of capspace. And we lost two easily replaceable players and a 1st rd pick.

There is no way any Mavs fan should be upset unless they just wanted us to be on the treadmill forever. How else would we have even had flexibility to build around Luka. We would have realistically been waiting until 2024 when NOW we can start this off-season. Hopefully we can get Bertans out of here too this week which is probably impossible

Guess you've forgotten all about having Nash, Nowitzki, and Finley all at the same time? They were better than what you have now for sure.

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Could never forget but we never won a chip AND when I say top end talent I’m talking top 10-13ish. Nash fully broke out on the Suns. We were never able to recover once he left.

But trust I never forgot what we had. When we won the chip we were STACKEDDDDD with role players.

[SkyBill40]

In my 23 years as a Mavs fan, first time we had Top end Talent like this. I am excited to see how this second half of the season plays out. If Kyrie doesn’t work we now have a ton of capspace. And we lost two easily replaceable players and a 1st rd pick.

There is no way any Mavs fan should be upset unless they just wanted us to be on the treadmill forever. How else would we have even had flexibility to build around Luka. We would have realistically been waiting until 2024 when NOW we can start this off-season. Hopefully we can get Bertans out of here too this week which is probably impossible

Guess you've forgotten all about having Nash, Nowitzki, and Finley all at the same time? They were better than what you have now for sure.

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Could never forget but we never won a chip AND when I say top end talent I’m talking top 10-13ish. Nash fully broke out on the Suns. We were never able to recover once he left.

But trust I never forgot what we had. When we won the chip we were STACKEDDDDD with role players.

Fair enough.

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[Mr B]

Guess you've forgotten all about having Nash, Nowitzki, and Finley all at the same time? They were better than what you have now for sure.

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Nash became MVP caliber after he left the Mavs. Finley was never All NBA talent per se.

Nash was already MVP caliber and showed that while in DAL. Had Cuban decided to pay him accordingly, he would have stayed and you would have reaped the rewards of it.

Finley was an outstanding all around player. All NBA is overrated. It's a team sport and how those players work together. While having some really dominant individual talent is key, having it and getting nowhere doesn't mean much.

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As much as I loved Nash he didn’t become the MVP caliber player until he got in D’Antoni’s system.

Finley was also great to have around but was a borderline all star (much less All NBA). Kyrie is a legit #1 option on the court.

[Forbes]

Guess you've forgotten all about having Nash, Nowitzki, and Finley all at the same time? They were better than what you have now for sure.

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Nash became MVP caliber after he left the Mavs. Finley was never All NBA talent per se.

Nash was already MVP caliber and showed that while in DAL. Had Cuban decided to pay him accordingly, he would have stayed and you would have reaped the rewards of it.

Finley was an outstanding all around player. All NBA is overrated. It's a team sport and how those players work together. While having some really dominant individual talent is key, having it and getting nowhere doesn't mean much.

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There is no way you thought Steve Nash was MVP caliber before he left the Mavs. Steve Nash was a great player but no one thought of him as MVP and he was my second fav player on the Mavs. I was pissed he left. I won’t even get into Finley inconsistencies.

I understand you are trying to make a point. But they were NOT on the talent level of Kyrie Irving. Let’s not do this. We never had a player like Kyrie on the Mavs come in as a second fiddle.


Bro this is the Mavs board, I’m pretty sure we all know the truth lol

[kacey ring]

Good luck Mavs fans. Honestly hope this works out for you. Aside from the obvious concerns, defence might be an issue. I think you should move Wood and some 1sts for someone to shore up the defence. If you could get Turner that might be ideal.

Pacers just extended Turner, so Mavs aren’t getting him this year.

He is still allowed to be traded though I admit it is probably unlikely.

True. It’s very, very unlikely. He would be a great fit.

[Forbes]

Guess you've forgotten all about having Nash, Nowitzki, and Finley all at the same time? They were better than what you have now for sure.

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Could never forget but we never won a chip AND when I say top end talent I’m talking top 10-13ish. Nash fully broke out on the Suns. We were never able to recover once he left.

But trust I never forgot what we had. When we won the chip we were STACKEDDDDD with role players.

Fair enough.

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Trust me I’m not trying to downplay our History. But I have dreamed of Dirk even having someone like Kyrie after our big 3 was done.

[arkuo]

If GSW doesnt have money to re-sign Draymond Green, Mavs need to go with that direction for defense.

It is highly likely Draymond leaves. GSW need to oay people like Jordan Poole. Steph, Klay and Wiggins all have active max deals too.

[dirkules_41]

If GSW doesnt have money to re-sign Draymond Green, Mavs need to go with that direction for defense.

Kyrie, Green and Morris... are you building a basketball team or an asylum?

[arkuo]

If GSW doesnt have money to re-sign Draymond Green, Mavs need to go with that direction for defense.

Kyrie, Green and Morris... are you building a basketball team or an asylum?

The crazier the better, my friend.

Luka and Draymond are in great terms.

[SkyBill40]

Nash became MVP caliber after he left the Mavs. Finley was never All NBA talent per se.

Nash was already MVP caliber and showed that while in DAL. Had Cuban decided to pay him accordingly, he would have stayed and you would have reaped the rewards of it.

Finley was an outstanding all around player. All NBA is overrated. It's a team sport and how those players work together. While having some really dominant individual talent is key, having it and getting nowhere doesn't mean much.

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There is no way you thought Steve Nash was MVP caliber before he left the Mavs. Steve Nash was a great player but no one thought of him as MVP and he was my second fav player on the Mavs. I was pissed he left. I won’t even get into Finley inconsistencies.

I understand you are trying to make a point. But they were NOT on the talent level of Kyrie Irving. Let’s not do this. We never had a player like Kyrie on the Mavs come in as a second fiddle.


Bro this is the Mavs board, I’m pretty sure we all know the truth lol

The talent between Irving and Nash is different. Irving is an undersized SG and a fantastic scorer and individual ballhandler; Nash is a supremely better shooter and all around decision maker as a true PG. Talent is talent and you have it or you don't. If you wish to slice it differently, well, I guess that's your pie to cut but it still tastes the same.

And I'm aware this is the Mavs board. Good luck with Irving as you'll likely need it. And I sure hope he doesn't bolt on you for the Lakers as he very well could. Then again, if he did, you might get addition by subtraction.



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[Maverick41]

I understand why you do the trade but just sad to see DFS go. He was one of those guys that I thought would be Mav for life.