Mavs Summer League 2023 (Next: July 16 vs Hawks 9:30 EST)

[Maverick41]

I don't know any of the Philly players and somehow they're beating us when we're playing at least 3 guys that are supposed to be in our rotation. I know it's just summer league but I expect better.

[leolozon]

I was hoping Wallace (or Hendricks) dropped to us, think that guy can cover so many holes for this team. But once the top guys were all taken off the board (minus Whitmore), I think the Mavs made the best call possible since they got a guy they were targeting and dumped Bertans. Though I'm curious how Whitmore does and if the reasons he dropped so low come to fruition.

Wallace was there at 10. I’m not sure why you’re saying he was off the board.

[Captain_Obvious]

I was hoping Wallace (or Hendricks) dropped to us, think that guy can cover so many holes for this team. But once the top guys were all taken off the board (minus Whitmore), I think the Mavs made the best call possible since they got a guy they were targeting and dumped Bertans. Though I'm curious how Whitmore does and if the reasons he dropped so low come to fruition.

Wallace was there at 10. I’m not sure why you’re saying he was off the board.

Obviously mixed up Walker with Wallace

[Maverick41]

Hardy Party finally showing up after being Hardy Tardy for 90% of the game. Good to see.

[daoneandonly]

I was hoping Wallace (or Hendricks) dropped to us, think that guy can cover so many holes for this team. But once the top guys were all taken off the board (minus Whitmore), I think the Mavs made the best call possible since they got a guy they were targeting and dumped Bertans. Though I'm curious how Whitmore does and if the reasons he dropped so low come to fruition.

Wallace was there at 10. I’m not sure why you’re saying he was off the board.

Meant Walker

[daoneandonly]

Yuck for much of this game

[dirkules_41]

Yuck for much of this game

Came through big time in the clutch though. Lively with some strong rebounds (haven't seen anyone in a Mavs uni grab a rebound from this high up since 2011) and he defended the PG on a switch once and got the steal, not bad. Prosper with some nice play in the closing minutes, too.

[Maverick41]

Omax is the one I'm impressed with the most in this game. He didn't shoot well but he was all over the place. If he gets a decent shot, he can be a Covington type player. Put him in the gym all day to practice those corner 3s.

[BeiBeau]

The biggest thing we need between now and opening day is for Powell to teach Lively how to set screens like a pro. Powell spends his offseason at the facilities training with the rookies anyway.

That is a skill that he can legitimately go from bad to good at in just a few months.

[dirkules_41]

The biggest thing we need between now and opening day is for Powell to teach Lively how to set screens like a pro. Powell spends his offseason at the facilities training with the rookies anyway.

That is a skill that he can legitimately go from bad to good at in just a few months.

I'd much rather he continued to spend his time with Tyson and doesn't inherit any of Powells poor defensive and rebounding habits.

[Apz]

Omax is the one I'm impressed with the most in this game. He didn't shoot well but he was all over the place. If he gets a decent shot, he can be a Covington type player. Put him in the gym all day to practice those corner 3s.

I were most impressed by the Taze....something. IF plan is to fill it with random vet scrub i prefer giving him the chance. Older, 5 years in college i think they said. Seems to know what he is doing. That brandon key guy also seemd useable. But this SL team sooo lack a playmaker

[BeiBeau]

The biggest thing we need between now and opening day is for Powell to teach Lively how to set screens like a pro. Powell spends his offseason at the facilities training with the rookies anyway.

That is a skill that he can legitimately go from bad to good at in just a few months.

I'd much rather he continued to spend his time with Tyson and doesn't inherit any of Powells poor defensive and rebounding habits.

That’s an of a bit brain dead idea. Powell is a poor defender and rebounder because of ability. Not effort or habits.

When was the last time Chandler ran a P&R with Luka? Does he know how he likes his screens? Or as much about the Mavs offense?

[Bob8]

Did you see Wemby set his screens? They make Lively look like a prime KG. He just has to adjust to the NBA.

Wemby was not drafted to set screens.

If you can't shoot outside 2 ft, you better learn to set screens.

Yeah but you’re bitching and moaning about fundamentals. And how Europeans do it so much better and yet Wemby sets some god awful screens. So your theory has some holes clearly.

Luka is not setting screens too, but was still multiple MVP and gold medalist with 18 years, while number 1 pick was playing video games. Super stars normally are not setting screens, defensive Cs for sure are.

You can't be serious and arguing about fundamentals between Wemby and Lively? First will earn around billion and second be very happy, if he could get second contract.

[BeiBeau]

Wemby was not drafted to set screens.

If you can't shoot outside 2 ft, you better learn to set screens.

Yeah but you’re bitching and moaning about fundamentals. And how Europeans do it so much better and yet Wemby sets some god awful screens. So your theory has some holes clearly.

Luka is not setting screens too, but was still multiple MVP and gold medalist with 18 years, while number 1 pick was playing video games. Super stars normally are not setting screens, defensive Cs for sure are.

You can't be serious and arguing about fundamentals between Wemby and Lively? First will earn around billion and second be very happy, if he could get second contract.

Lmao superstars don’t set screens? Someone should tell that to Jokic. Bigs set screens buddy. Whether they’re a superstar or a scrub. Have you ever played or watched basketball? Like what?

I’m not arguing that Lively has better skills than Wemby. I’m pointing out that you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.
1. You said Europeans(Wemby) have way better fundamentals such as screen setting, among other things.
2. I pointed out that Wemby is actually much worse as a screen setter than Lively.
3. Therefore it’s not really a fundamentals issue because Wemby is clearly a very sound player. It’s just a NBA skill that they both need to work on.

I don’t know how to dumb that down any further for you.

I get that you only look at box scores to tell you how good a player is but still. (Lively) “be very happy, if he could get a second contract” is kinda corny. The kids gonna be fine.

[arkuo]

Omax might actually get NBA minutes this season. Wow.

On behalf of the city of Dallas, we would like to thank the Sacramento Kings for:
1. Passing on Luka Doncic for Marvin Bagley
2. Giving us Jaden Hardy
3. Giving us Omax Prosper

[Mavrelous]

Omax might actually get NBA minutes this season. Wow.

On behalf of the city of Dallas, we would like to thank the Sacramento Kings for:
1. Passing on Luka Doncic for Marvin Bagley
2. Giving us Jaden Hardy
3. Giving us Omax Prosper

OMax is what the doctor ordered defensively, if he hits 3s at acceptable clip, he's a rotation player.

[Michaellam1987]

I also wouldn't be opposed to getting PJ Washington on like a 2 year deal (2nd year player option) in a sign and trade for THJ. If talks completely break down in Charlotte, they might just send him out for scraps. But a long term deal hinders future moves from Dallas. Ideally you need him at just 1 year.

Or a more complicated double sign and trade can happen. PJ for CWood. Both sign for 1 year deals just so they'd have teams for the coming season and then both try again next summer. Seems like a win win for all parties. Im sure even the players want that rather than signing for the vet minimum somewhere.

If CHA like Wood, they can just sign him directly. What is the point to do a sign and trade with DAL and get a negative asset in THJ?

[dirkules_41]

The biggest thing we need between now and opening day is for Powell to teach Lively how to set screens like a pro. Powell spends his offseason at the facilities training with the rookies anyway.

That is a skill that he can legitimately go from bad to good at in just a few months.

I'd much rather he continued to spend his time with Tyson and doesn't inherit any of Powells poor defensive and rebounding habits.

That’s an of a bit brain dead idea. Powell is a poor defender and rebounder because of ability. Not effort or habits.

When was the last time Chandler ran a P&R with Luka? Does he know how he likes his screens? Or as much about the Mavs offense?

I was speaking about defense, not sure where you inferred any reference about offense from, Mr braindead.

I'd rather he focuses on defense at this point and whilst Powell has a ton of effort, that is pretty much about it defensifely and rebounding wise. His positioning and boxout aren't particularly good but I'm sure you'd struggle to see that with your objectively operating remaining handful of brain cells.

But to answer your braindead question if you are capable of understanding how time works - Luka and Chandler might have ever so slighly not overlapped in their careers - but guess who Chandler did run great PnRs with? A certain JKidd.

[dirkules_41]

I also wouldn't be opposed to getting PJ Washington on like a 2 year deal (2nd year player option) in a sign and trade for THJ. If talks completely break down in Charlotte, they might just send him out for scraps. But a long term deal hinders future moves from Dallas. Ideally you need him at just 1 year.

Or a more complicated double sign and trade can happen. PJ for CWood. Both sign for 1 year deals just so they'd have teams for the coming season and then both try again next summer. Seems like a win win for all parties. Im sure even the players want that rather than signing for the vet minimum somewhere.

If CHA like Wood, they can just sign him directly. What is the point to do a sign and trade with DAL and get a negative asset in THJ?

THJ isn't a negative asset. However you're spot on about the rest - absolutely 0 point in anyone S&Ting for Wood if they can probably just sign him directly for cheap at this point.

[arkuo]

I also wouldn't be opposed to getting PJ Washington on like a 2 year deal (2nd year player option) in a sign and trade for THJ. If talks completely break down in Charlotte, they might just send him out for scraps. But a long term deal hinders future moves from Dallas. Ideally you need him at just 1 year.

Or a more complicated double sign and trade can happen. PJ for CWood. Both sign for 1 year deals just so they'd have teams for the coming season and then both try again next summer. Seems like a win win for all parties. Im sure even the players want that rather than signing for the vet minimum somewhere.

If CHA like Wood, they can just sign him directly. What is the point to do a sign and trade with DAL and get a negative asset in THJ?

Right right. Slipped my mind that charlotte had cap space to sign directly. Was thinking they were over the cap.