Luka traded to the Lakers

[Bob8]

We'll never know, the reporting is very lacking as always in Mavs land, I'm still midway through the MacMahon book, but I doubt he'll give a real insight to what happened.

Kidd doesn't make sense for the simple reason, why would coach want to shorten contending window?

I already aswered 41Dirk41 above, and if you look at how the team played w/o Luka after the trade compared to how they played w/o before the trade, it is also very clear Kidd coached a totally different game with the same roster, he was prepared for it.

I can understand all in GM or owner, but all in, short window coach?

[arkuo]

For the time being, Dallas will be a WNBA city with Paige Bueckers being drafted number 1 (pressumably by Dallas).

[BliscoSantos]

For the time being, Dallas will be a WNBA city with Paige Bueckers being drafted number 1 (pressumably by Dallas).

Maybe,maybe not...there was an article suggesting she could force her way to LA(her prefered situation)...now that would be something,Luka and Paige both in LA

[41Dirk41]

In 10 years time, there will be a documentary about Nico and what financial favors he got to send Luka to Hollywood. It may not be from his mouth but there will be a whistleblower for sure. Can't sweep everything under the rug without it stinking eventually.

Sure.

[blueberrysticky]

I think the plan to remove luka was done by Nico way back when he traded for kyrie. Kyrie was brought in to be the primary ball handler for when Luka got shipped out. Nico wanted his own players and his own team, he wanted all the credit not a superstar that was drafted by the previous GM. The decision was made a long time ago well before the finals appearance. New ownership is just gullible and stupid so Nico knew he could slip it by them if noone in the NBA caught wind of the trade. Keep it secret so noone can outcry such a stupid trade.

[arkuo]

I think the plan to remove luka was done by Nico way back when he traded for kyrie. Kyrie was brought in to be the primary ball handler for when Luka got shipped out. Nico wanted his own players and his own team, he wanted all the credit not a superstar that was drafted by the previous GM. The decision was made a long time ago well before the finals appearance. New ownership is just gullible and stupid so Nico knew he could slip it by them if noone in the NBA caught wind of the trade. Keep it secret so noone can outcry such a stupid trade.

I'm not sure about that. After getting Kyrie, Nico still tried to get players who fit Luka's system. PJ and Gafford were traded for after getting Kyrie onboard. Something happened after that. After PJ, Gafford, Lively etc. It was said Nico and Pelinka met at a coffee shop like a couple of months before the trade deadline.

[arkuo]

The point of contention is the amount of the return for the trade. Luka fans will always want to hang on to Luka. I get that part. But that's not the case. If there were 3 first rounders coming back, with AD and AR, it would have been a different story. So if you talk to Luka fans, their decision is not to trade Luka, then there is no winning the argument there. But the clamor is just about the return. Which means Nico was colluding. My theory suggests money changed hands. For you to tank your career like that, it better be for a big sum for retirement. He'll likely never step into another workplace again, but he most likely made sure he was paid to cover for the income loss.

[Mr B]

So in this clip Luka tells Gafford “we’ll play again” insinuating that the two of them will be teammates again at some point. That clearly means Luka is resigning with Dallas right? Theres absolutely no other way to take that right? Lol

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[arkuo]

So in this clip Luka tells Gafford “we’ll play again” insinuating that the two of them will be teammates again at some point. That clearly means Luka is resigning with Dallas right? Theres absolutely no other way to take that right? Lol

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I think this is for the Slovenian team. Gafford was said to be naturalized citizen for this maybe?

[Mavrelous]

The point of contention is the amount of the return for the trade

No, it isn't.
Mavs had a top 3 player and supporting cast that made them a legit contender, all are young except Kyrie.
You don't trade that away, you just don't.
If you do, you explain yoirself, you don't give a disgraceful press conference in Cleveland and hide.
Lastly, you get a better package.

[41Dirk41]

The point of contention is the amount of the return for the trade

No, it isn't.
Mavs had a top 3 player and supporting cast that made them a legit contender, all are young except Kyrie.
You don't trade that away, you just don't.
If you do, you explain yoirself, you don't give a disgraceful press conference in Cleveland and hide.
Lastly, you get a better package.

100% agree.

People were angry when Cuban destroyed the 2011 roster but this trade is 100 times worse.

[arkuo]

The point of contention is the amount of the return for the trade

No, it isn't.
Mavs had a top 3 player and supporting cast that made them a legit contender, all are young except Kyrie.
You don't trade that away, you just don't.
If you do, you explain yoirself, you don't give a disgraceful press conference in Cleveland and hide.
Lastly, you get a better package.

My point is, you can't bar a team from trading a player. It's not illegal to trade. The amount of the return is the one in question for me at least. Like if you want to trade Luka, and in Nico's mind he wants to build something then sure. But you get a better return package than AD, Christie and a 1st. Why he didnt offer it to anyone beside LA, and why he only accepted that return is the one I'm questioning. Barring a GM from trading players is beyond us here.

[Mavrelous]

There is so much wrong here.
Yes, it's not illegal to trade, but if you want my money, you don't give me a crappy product and ask me to like it.
Nothing about the trade makes sense, fans deserve an explanation.

[arkuo]

There is so much wrong here.
Yes, it's not illegal to trade, but if you want my money, you don't give me a crappy product and ask me to like it.
Nothing about the trade makes sense, fans deserve an explanation.

I'm with you on that. I just think Dumont feels that he could still sell the idea of having AD and keep thr revenues up. It has the signs of them not thinking this one through. And they didn't expect this much backlash from the fans. It's the Adelson's first forray into sports teams. These guys have been building resorts and casinos without the need for customer feedback. Cesar's Palace doesn't ask customers how they feel if they knock down a fountain and replace it with another one that uses less water. So they're used to doing things a certain way. Unfortunately for them, sports teams involve a live paying audience. And here we are now.

[Mavrelous]

Grant Afseth has repeatedly the only actual journalist in Dallas

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[Bob8]

There is so much wrong here.
Yes, it's not illegal to trade, but if you want my money, you don't give me a crappy product and ask me to like it.
Nothing about the trade makes sense, fans deserve an explanation.

Why is so hard to believe that arrogant idiot just used clueless owner to fulfill his grandiose dream? Far more idiotic things are going on in the world at the moment. People with absolute power can be absolute idiots.

[41Dirk41]

There is so much wrong here.
Yes, it's not illegal to trade, but if you want my money, you don't give me a crappy product and ask me to like it.
Nothing about the trade makes sense, fans deserve an explanation.

Why is so hard to believe that arrogant idiot just used clueless owner to fulfill his grandiose dream? Far more idiotic things are going on in the world at the moment. People with absolute power can be absolute idiots.

Because it's not just a basketball suicide... It's about marketing and team value too.
They are businessmen.
It is not credible that they underestimated the economic effect of the trade. No way Bob

[Bob8]

There is so much wrong here.
Yes, it's not illegal to trade, but if you want my money, you don't give me a crappy product and ask me to like it.
Nothing about the trade makes sense, fans deserve an explanation.

Why is so hard to believe that arrogant idiot just used clueless owner to fulfill his grandiose dream? Far more idiotic things are going on in the world at the moment. People with absolute power can be absolute idiots.

Because it's not just a basketball suicide... It's about marketing and team value too.
They are businessmen.
It is not credible that they underestimated the economic effect of the trade. No way Bob

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[Bob8]

it's cut from the cloth of greats. I know it, I lived it,

That tells everything about Nico, he puts himself among the greatest. And that's the man, who could pull those trade off.

[Teffer10]

The point of contention is the amount of the return for the trade

No, it isn't.
Mavs had a top 3 player and supporting cast that made them a legit contender, all are young except Kyrie.
You don't trade that away, you just don't.
If you do, you explain yoirself, you don't give a disgraceful press conference in Cleveland and hide.
Lastly, you get a better package.

What is sickening to me is we were only a small trade from being the best team in the league if we weren't already.

I personally thought a Maxi/OMax/2nd for DFS would have made us a complete balanced team well build for a championship.