Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread

[Apz]

Pretty sure the Mavs decided to go with shooting as opposed to defense here. Nothing is worse than when we get a stop on defense and can’t execute on offense in the finals. We clearly are stacking up on high percentage shooters.

I’m convinced secretly the Mavs preferred Naji’s shooting

Well, imo its worse to not get the stop to begin with. So it would have been better to let boston score another 15 points but its made up by marshalls 1 3pointer/game?

[Apz]

Love Marshall, wanted him and mentioned him in this thread, but he's not DJJ replacement as POA defender, I don't know what happened, why did DJJ go to Clips?

Marshall and Grimes combined is more POA defense then DJJ imo.

Sadly only 1 of them can play at a time. If both counted as 1 player it would mean sometging

[arkuo]

This move has Rich Paul's fingerprints all over it.

But what's done is done. Mavs now have all eggs in the Klay Thompson basket. Let's get it done.

[arkuo]

Love Marshall, wanted him and mentioned him in this thread, but he's not DJJ replacement as POA defender, I don't know what happened, why did DJJ go to Clips?

Marshall and Grimes combined is more POA defense then DJJ imo.

Sadly only 1 of them can play at a time. If both counted as 1 player it would mean sometging

Both guys can play at the same time. Marshall is replacing DJJ, Grimes is replacing THJ, yes?

[arkuo]

Reports are coming out that DJJ and his party wanted a starting spot guarantee. Something Nico couldn't do if he's after Klay. If true, then smart move by Nico to go after Marshall instead.

[BeiBeau]

Love Marshall, wanted him and mentioned him in this thread, but he's not DJJ replacement as POA defender, I don't know what happened, why did DJJ go to Clips?

Marshall and Grimes combined is more POA defense then DJJ imo.

I'd disagree with that, they are different, we'll see how it goes...

I really think Grimes is going to get back to his 2022-23 form in which he was a very good primary POA defender for a Knicks team that made the 2nd round.

I think Dallas’s defense is better today, but I understand if you disagree.

[BeiBeau]

Love Marshall, wanted him and mentioned him in this thread, but he's not DJJ replacement as POA defender, I don't know what happened, why did DJJ go to Clips?

Marshall and Grimes combined is more POA defense then DJJ imo.

Sadly only 1 of them can play at a time. If both counted as 1 player it would mean sometging

That’s for sure not true. Marshall and Grimes can play on the court at the same time.

[Apz]

Marshall and Grimes combined is more POA defense then DJJ imo.

Sadly only 1 of them can play at a time. If both counted as 1 player it would mean sometging

Both guys can play at the same time. Marshall is replacing DJJ, Grimes is replacing THJ, yes?

So thj is a starter now? Who got kicked out? Kyrie? PJ? You guys talking like marshall is some kind of 3pt specialist when, without looking it up, josh green hits more/game at same %.

Look, i wont say its good or bad. But low iq players with high iq players is usually a disaster. And we now asking him to go guard starters. Someobe linked a stat. Pg13 scored 10 baskets in round 1 in the 171ish posessions djj guarded him. Thats what he will be asked to do. If he fails he will be out and mavs will have to spend another 1st to replace him

[BeiBeau]

Some of you are mistaking Marshall and Grimes as some kind of elite 3 pt shooters ........they are very average

Grimes is well above average. Those Detroit games don’t mean anything.

Dallas shot 17% on open 3s in the finals. If our role players were average at shooting 3s in those games we would be NBA champs.

[Michaellam1987]

Some of you are mistaking Marshall and Grimes as some kind of elite 3 pt shooters ........they are very average

Grimes is well above average. Those Detroit games don’t mean anything.

Dallas shot 17% on open 3s in the finals. If our role players were average at shooting 3s in those games we would be NBA champs.

There are no "if", our role players are not good 3s shooters, that is the fact. If they are not out-performing than they normal perform in previous rounds, we might have lost to OKC/MIN already.

[Michaellam1987]

Reports are coming out that DJJ and his party wanted a starting spot guarantee. Something Nico couldn't do if he's after Klay. If true, then smart move by Nico to go after Marshall instead.

A starting spot, with guaranteed role in the team might be what Klay is looking for the most. However, IMO Klay might be better as the 6 man for DAL.

[BeiBeau]

Sadly only 1 of them can play at a time. If both counted as 1 player it would mean sometging

Both guys can play at the same time. Marshall is replacing DJJ, Grimes is replacing THJ, yes?

So thj is a starter now? Who got kicked out? Kyrie? PJ? You guys talking like marshall is some kind of 3pt specialist when, without looking it up, josh green hits more/game at same %.

Look, i wont say its good or bad. But low iq players with high iq players is usually a disaster. And we now asking him to go guard starters. Someobe linked a stat. Pg13 scored 10 baskets in round 1 in the 171ish posessions djj guarded him. Thats what he will be asked to do. If he fails he will be out and mavs will have to spend another 1st to replace him

DJJ was a bench player in Chicago 2 years ago and we could all make the same arguments. The only difference is the reason Marshall was a bench player is because he’s behind Zion, BI, Herb, and Murphy. That’s insane competition to get starting minutes.

He’s not a 3pt specialist, the stat was pointed out on twitter that over the last 2 season Marshall has shot 5% more on spot ups with more than twice the attempts DJJ has taken.

But make no mistake, Dallas doesn’t need 3pt specialists, they need average 3pt shooters. The Mavs role players shot 17% on open 3s in the finals. That’s why we’re not nba champs right now.

And no THJ wasn’t a starter. They don’t have to start the game to be major contributors.

[joesha1698]

Love Marshall, wanted him and mentioned him in this thread, but he's not DJJ replacement as POA defender, I don't know what happened, why did DJJ go to Clips?

Marshall and Grimes combined is more POA defense then DJJ imo.

I like this take. I watched some tape on Marshall and he's a better offensive player than DDJ. He has a quicker/better shooting form from 3 point. He shot 38% from the 3 on the Pelicans (last year) and I think he should do just as well or better with Luka and Kyrie. Another thing is his handle is just so much better. He can really put the ball on the floor and make smart decisions and finish at the basket. DJJ was always kind of out of control as a finisher.

I think it will workout fine. I think this guy will make a decent POA defender and I think his offensive skill set makes us better. I guess we need Klay or Jermi Grant? I guess our POA defender will come down to our PF and SF spot. Klay/Grant against some guys and then PJ against other guys. I'm not too worried and I believe we can figure it out.

[tleikheen]

So is Klay Thompson gonna move out of California where he has a beach home for Texas to play for the Mavs . He lives in LA and Lebron is taking a paycut to bring a shooter to the Lakers.

Somehow I think Thompson signs with the Lakers where his dad is the radio announcer for the Lakers and he can sleep in his own house half the season.

Mavs lose out on Thompson and lose DJJ in a mismanaged free agency.

[BeiBeau]

Some of you are mistaking Marshall and Grimes as some kind of elite 3 pt shooters ........they are very average

Grimes is well above average. Those Detroit games don’t mean anything.

Dallas shot 17% on open 3s in the finals. If our role players were average at shooting 3s in those games we would be NBA champs.

There are no "if", our role players are not good 3s shooters, that is the fact. If they are not out-performing than they normal perform in previous rounds, we might have lost to OKC/MIN already.

Yeah but several people on this board would love for Dallas to twiddle their thumbs and just hope DJJ does suck it up from deep next playoffs. DJJ has never even sniffed shooting more than 35% from 3 in a season. It’s only 1 season but Marshall shot 39% last year and Grimes is a career 37% on great volume.

[BliscoSantos]

Sadly Dallas isn't a free agent destination for most unfortunately...don't think Klay will be a Mav...it looks like it will be Lakers or Clippers...if he signs for one of those for midlevel it just means his interested in LA life more than winning

[joesha1698]

So is Klay Thompson gonna move out of California where he has a beach home for Texas to play for the Mavs . He lives in LA and Lebron is taking a paycut to bring a shooter to the Lakers.

Somehow I think Thompson signs with the Lakers where his dad is the radio announcer for the Lakers and he can sleep in his own house half the season.

Mavs lose out on Thompson and lose DJJ in a mismanaged free agency.

I'll be surprised if Klay chooses Dal over LAL for those reasons. I hope we have a contingency plan, maybe Grant from Portland? I also want us to really pursue Spencer D and additional shooting.

[tleikheen]

Really trying to blame DJJ and role players for a poor shooting 3 pt series against Boston. My take is without DJJ's great defense and Pj's the Mavs don't even make the NBA Finals in the 1st place . Before Boston won this NBA Finals they did poorly also before finally winning . Acting like DJJ and PJ who are still young and can't get better is a disservice to what they did this year but for DJJ he'll be applying his POA defense against the Mavs next year.

[BeiBeau]

So is Klay Thompson gonna move out of California where he has a beach home for Texas to play for the Mavs . He lives in LA and Lebron is taking a paycut to bring a shooter to the Lakers.

Somehow I think Thompson signs with the Lakers where his dad is the radio announcer for the Lakers and he can sleep in his own house half the season.

Mavs lose out on Thompson and lose DJJ in a mismanaged free agency.

Josh Green for Klay Thompson can mean Dallas can offer Klay 18 million vs Lakers 12.9. With state income tax that 12.9 becomes 11.2.

He may go to the lakers. But Dallas still have the better offer on the table. And if he does go to the Lakers the Mavs are still a better team right now then they were 2 weeks ago.

[BeiBeau]

Sadly Dallas isn't a free agent destination for most unfortunately...don't think Klay will be a Mav...it looks like it will be Lakers or Clippers...if he signs for one of those for midlevel it just means his interested in LA life more than winning

The Dallas can’t get free agents is so overrated. All of the free agents Dallas likes to complain about not picking us was always because Dallas was the worse situation career wise then the alternative.

Dallas is actually Klay’s best spot. He might not pick us but this one is different.