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Post#1061 » by arkuo » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:05 am

BliscoSantos wrote:If Klay doesn't pick the Mavs I hope Nico checks if CHA is willing to part ways with Miles Bridges...he should also check in on Jalen Smith as a possible Maxi replacement



Miles Bridges is a very good option for SF as well. Not as good a shooter as Klay, but more athletic and younger. Both can score 25 a game if they wanted to easily. Klay just being the bigger name and should pull "more fans". In terms of usage both should be the same.
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Post#1062 » by arkuo » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:08 am

The main competition to sign Klay is Philly (if they have money left after PG13), and not the Lakers IMO. Embiid, Maxey and PG13 are far more attractive than 39 year old Lebron and a bunch of Klutch sports clients.
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Post#1063 » by BliscoSantos » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:09 am

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BliscoSantos wrote:If Klay doesn't pick the Mavs I hope Nico checks if CHA is willing to part ways with Miles Bridges...he should also check in on Jalen Smith as a possible Maxi replacement



Miles Bridges is a very good option for SF as well. Not as good a shooter as Klay, but more athletic and younger. Both can score 25 a game if they wanted to easily. Klay just being the bigger name and should pull "more fans". In terms of usage both should be the same.


If Klay doesn't come Miles might actually be the Best option...Young,athletic, his contract should't be to big...he could be the third option on O
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Post#1064 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:16 am

I prefer Miles over Klay... Ok he is a butthead but his upside is huge.
Klay looked gassed last season and at 34yo his decline could be fast.
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Post#1065 » by Teffer10 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:27 am

Not overly crazy about going aggressively after Klay mainly because of his age and injuries. I have been concerned about Kyrie being on the backside of his career, but Klay is at the end of his.
With Luka just entering his prime, it would be a good short term move but it makes our window of opportunity very short. So how would we look 2 years from now when Kyrie is well past his prime and Klay would be completely done?
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Post#1066 » by arkuo » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:44 am

Teffer10 wrote:Not overly crazy about going aggressively after Klay mainly because of his age and injuries. I have been concerned about Kyrie being on the backside of his career, but Klay is at the end of his.
With Luka just entering his prime, it would be a good short term move but it makes our window of opportunity very short. So how would we look 2 years from now when Kyrie is well past his prime and Klay would be completely done?



I think Nico will choose the bird in the hand over the two in the bush. You arent winning anything with THJ and DJJ anyway. If you roll the dice with Klay, you might actually win something which then makes it worth it. The goal is to put a competitive product on the floor which I think this move achieves.
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Post#1067 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:48 am

Big Val 3years 30M... He takes less money than Maxi Kleber :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#1068 » by Bob8 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:49 am

Teffer10 wrote:Not overly crazy about going aggressively after Klay mainly because of his age and injuries. I have been concerned about Kyrie being on the backside of his career, but Klay is at the end of his.
With Luka just entering his prime, it would be a good short term move but it makes our window of opportunity very short. So how would we look 2 years from now when Kyrie is well past his prime and Klay would be completely done?


If they can get him they should. Mavs are not exactly in position to be picky about those kind of players.They got Kyrie for cheap and if the main price is Josh… Just imagine if they have had Klay instead of THJ in the Finals this year.
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Post#1069 » by arkuo » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:50 am

If Mavs miss out on Klay, I'd like to go all in on Miles Bridges or Jerami Grant. Both younger than Klay. You should be able to squeeze 5 years on each on of those names.
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Post#1070 » by Captain_Obvious » Mon Jul 1, 2024 9:45 am

I just like us to throw the BAE at Spence regardless of the Klay situation
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Post#1071 » by Mr B » Mon Jul 1, 2024 10:00 am

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The POA defense we’re getting from Grimes and Marshall is more than we got from DJJ. Not to mention both of them are better shooters which is what we really need.[/quote}

Marshall never even played POA defense on the Pelicans and Grimes played limited minutes in having a poor yr. DJJ had a much better year than both these guys.

Grimes and Marshall are going to get much more opportunities to shine in Dallas. Look at the improvement DJJ had in his game from prior to joining the Mavs to right now. Grimes and Marshall will have the same opportunities. Both should have better statistical seasons than they had last year.
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Post#1072 » by Mr B » Mon Jul 1, 2024 10:12 am

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Yeah I think this as well. DAL moved on to Naji and DJJ panicked imo.


Yeah DJJ panicked right into a payday with another contender ,SMH

Most thought he would get more than 3/$30M. I agree that I thought he panicked. I was under the impression that he couldn’t hire a new agent until 15 days later (not that he couldn’t sign with anyone). He could negotiate a contract on his own though without having an agent. I think maybe he expected the Mavs to wait 15 days for him to sign with Klutch but Nico pivoted to Marshall instead (can’t wait for DJJ). That’s when DJJ panicked and negotiated his own deal with the Clippers. He got lucky to get slightly more than Marshall but if he had never fired his agent he likely would have got more than 3/$30M.
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Post#1073 » by Mr B » Mon Jul 1, 2024 10:12 am

tleikheen wrote:Some of you are mistaking Marshall and Grimes as some kind of elite 3 pt shooters ........they are very average

So was DJJ prior to joining the Mavs.
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Post#1074 » by Mr B » Mon Jul 1, 2024 10:16 am

Apz wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Apz wrote:
Sadly only 1 of them can play at a time. If both counted as 1 player it would mean sometging


Both guys can play at the same time. Marshall is replacing DJJ, Grimes is replacing THJ, yes?


So thj is a starter now? Who got kicked out? Kyrie? PJ? You guys talking like marshall is some kind of 3pt specialist when, without looking it up, josh green hits more/game at same %.

Look, i wont say its good or bad. But low iq players with high iq players is usually a disaster. And we now asking him to go guard starters. Someobe linked a stat. Pg13 scored 10 baskets in round 1 in the 171ish posessions djj guarded him. Thats what he will be asked to do. If he fails he will be out and mavs will have to spend another 1st to replace him

What was DJJ prior to joining the Mavs? A blow average shooter/defender whose best skill was his ability to dunk. Both Grimes and Marshall are considered better players now than DJJ was before he joined the Mavs.
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Post#1075 » by Captain_Obvious » Mon Jul 1, 2024 10:19 am

Captain_Obvious wrote:I just like us to throw the BAE at Spence regardless of the Klay situation

Actually scratch that, I'm reading Mavs want Klay for the THJ TPE - meaning they fit Grimes into the BAE

But they need to move Green IMO - too expensive and too much overlap with Grimes

Unless Grimes is not healthy

Personally - I would love to trade Green/Maxi for Miles Bridges and get Dinwiddie for the BAE

Gafford / Lively
PJ / Omax
Naji / Bridges
Luka / Grimes
Ky / Spence

Would be nasty and deep
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Post#1076 » by Mr B » Mon Jul 1, 2024 10:24 am

BliscoSantos wrote:If Klay doesn't pick the Mavs I hope Nico checks if CHA is willing to part ways with Miles Bridges...he should also check in on Jalen Smith as a possible Maxi replacement

I don’t know if Bridges will be the guy they look at but there will be options for the Mavs. Cam Johnson, Jeremi Grant, Tobias Harris, and possibly even Khris Middleton could be available via trade.
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Post#1077 » by Mr B » Mon Jul 1, 2024 10:26 am

Teffer10 wrote:Not overly crazy about going aggressively after Klay mainly because of his age and injuries. I have been concerned about Kyrie being on the backside of his career, but Klay is at the end of his.
With Luka just entering his prime, it would be a good short term move but it makes our window of opportunity very short. So how would we look 2 years from now when Kyrie is well past his prime and Klay would be completely done?

Didn’t Klay play 70+ games this season and 60+ games the year before? Seems that his health is ok. He has lost a step though because of the injuries.
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Post#1078 » by Archx » Mon Jul 1, 2024 10:51 am

DJJ going from a young rising team to a team that will fight for playoffs and potentially even taking less money. GJ my man, you really did it.

But luckily Mavs accidentally stumbled into a probably better player than DJJ. So, in a weird way, Nico maybe found an upgrade for DJJ lol...
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Post#1079 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 11:16 am

Mr B wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:If Klay doesn't pick the Mavs I hope Nico checks if CHA is willing to part ways with Miles Bridges...he should also check in on Jalen Smith as a possible Maxi replacement

I don’t know if Bridges will be the guy they look at but there will be options for the Mavs. Cam Johnson, Jeremi Grant, Tobias Harris, and possibly even Khris Middleton could be available via trade.


Yes we have multiple options, DJJ was clearly the worst starter so it's a great and smart move try to upgrade his spot.

Nico (after Cuban departure) deserves full trust.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#1080 » by Archx » Mon Jul 1, 2024 11:20 am

41Dirk41 wrote:Nico (after Cuban departure) deserves full trust.


After Cuban stopped being a "trade whisperer" Nico went on a huge run :D

Best thing that happened to the FO was Donnie and Cuban leaving. It's more and more evident 2011 championship happened by a pure accident and also Dirk being an alien.

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