Mavericks 2017 Draft #9

[bran muffin]

And I just don't understand all of the interest in Rubio. He would be a horrible fit on this team.

I think Mavs fans are thinking Rubio would be a defensive-minded, pass-first point guard. The second coming of Jason Kidd, circa 2008. Well, I guess Rubio would technically be the third coming of Jason Kidd in Dallas, but whatever.

Unfortunately, we don't have prime Dirk around anymore. Prime Dirk allowed the Mavs to get away with a lot of stuff. We're not gonna get away with a point guard converting only 36% of his shot attempts. Not anymore.

[agentofatlas]

If Rubio continues his post ASB play then he's a steal. Him and Isaac would be a great haul.

[Hadley]

I'd take Rubio if we trade up, but I doubt it. Major problem with Rubio is that he can't score to **** save his life.

[daoneandonly]

Even if that asset is Wes Matthews?

Yes because that means we're taking Nkinnia over DSJ and/or Issac, and thats just criminally stupid. Though as u know, i live parting ways with Wes

What makes you think that? If the Mavs are trading Wes/9 for Rubio/7 then I would expect the Mavs to take Isaac at 7 since they would already have their PG.

Well if it's FUltz-Ball-Jackson-Fox-Tatum in whatever order, then that means Issac or DSJ will definitley be there at 7. So if we trade up to 7 and still take Nkinnia, that's just foolish.

[Captain_Obvious]

The day of truth has arrived. Can't wait.

I'm happy with all those guys we can possibly get, this draft is legit 9-10 deep. I only doubt Markannen's mobility, but maybe thats just stereotyping.

My Ranking (only possible players):
1) Whoever drops
2) Smith
3) Isaac
4) Frank
5) Monk
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10) Mitchell
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15) Markannen

We need to outlast the Warriors, so trading Barnes for an extra top-15 pick could be the smart thing to do. Doubt anyone bites though. I would entertain a trade with Portland where we take on Leonard or Turner and in turn get their picks.

[Hadley]

Yeah, anyone is fine except Markannen and Mitchell or one of the white Bigs like Collins or that Jimmer Fredette 2.0...

[Mr B]

Yes because that means we're taking Nkinnia over DSJ and/or Issac, and thats just criminally stupid. Though as u know, i live parting ways with Wes

What makes you think that? If the Mavs are trading Wes/9 for Rubio/7 then I would expect the Mavs to take Isaac at 7 since they would already have their PG.

Well if it's FUltz-Ball-Jackson-Fox-Tatum in whatever order, then that means Issac or DSJ will definitley be there at 7. So if we trade up to 7 and still take Nkinnia, that's just foolish.

Right, but if the proposed trade happen they would be trading up while also acquiring a PG. there would be no need to then draft another PG when Isaac is still on the board. If the Mavs pulled off that trade it would be to draft Isaac not Ntilikina.

[Jinra]

I am not a Rubio fan, but I sures hell ain't no Matthews fan neither. Yall can have this "my team" love for him if you like, it was a horrible signing when they did it and it is still horrible now. He is replaceable and for less money.

[Pinkyring]

I am not a Rubio fan, but I sures hell ain't no Matthews fan neither. Yall can have this "my team" love for him if you like, it was a horrible signing when they did it and it is still horrible now. He is replaceable and for less money.

I like wes just not at the money and not with him needing to create his own shot. He would fit nice with a pass first pg like rubio to get him looks. As for his money i think we all hate that he should have been a 12-14 guy especially coming off injury, why we maxed him i have no idea

[Jinra]

I am not a Rubio fan, but I sures hell ain't no Matthews fan neither. Yall can have this "my team" love for him if you like, it was a horrible signing when they did it and it is still horrible now. He is replaceable and for less money.

I like wes just not at the money and not with him needing to create his own shot. He would fit nice with a pass first pg like rubio to get him looks. As for his money i think we all hate that he should have been a 12-14 guy especially coming off injury, why we maxed him i have no idea

Well said. I guess the question is why does Dallas value him more than Rubio and the 7th pick?

[Devassa]

I am not a Rubio fan, but I sures hell ain't no Matthews fan neither. Yall can have this "my team" love for him if you like, it was a horrible signing when they did it and it is still horrible now. He is replaceable and for less money.

I like wes just not at the money and not with him needing to create his own shot. He would fit nice with a pass first pg like rubio to get him looks. As for his money i think we all hate that he should have been a 12-14 guy especially coming off injury, why we maxed him i have no idea

Well said. I guess the question is why does Dallas value him more than Rubio and the 7th pick?

Because our moronic front office thinks that 'good locker room presence/nice guy' is worth paying 18 million a year for and keeping regardless of how awful he plays on the court or how good a player in return would fit

[Dirk]

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Dennis Smith

Other potential draftees: Jonathan Isaac, Frank Ntilikina, Lauri Markkanen, Zach Collins

The Mavs covet Isaac and have been trying to move up a couple of spots to grab him. So far, they've been unable to work out a deal.

The Mavs were strongly leaning toward Ntilikina, to the point that they invited his head coach at Strasbourg, Vincent Collet, to come coach the Mavs' Orlando Summer League team. However, they walked away from a workout with Smith last week totally smitten by Smith's athleticism and scoring abilities.

If both are on the board, this becomes a really tough decision between getting the best player now and potentially the best player in three years. Dallas hasn't had to be patient for a while. Can it?

There's also talk of the Mavs swapping picks with the Wolves, but right now the cost is too high for Dallas.

Because our moronic front office thinks that 'good locker room presence/nice guy' is worth paying 18 million a year for and keeping regardless of how awful he plays on the court or how good a player in return would fit

It could be a very elaborate 'smokescreen'. It certainly is better to give the appearance that you value players very highly as opposed to do what Phil Jackson has done with Carmelo/Porzingis.

I doubt anyone believes the Mavs would reject Matthews/9 for Rubio/7. It's certainly hard to digest the things you read that almost paint the idea that the Mavs view Matthews as a star but at the same we have to take things with a grain of salt.

You mentioned cap space... they can waive Devin Harris and gain an extra 3 million. That's another thing to monitor with the whole love for veterans in mind.

[Jinra]

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9. Dallas Mavericks

Dennis Smith

Other potential draftees: Jonathan Isaac, Frank Ntilikina, Lauri Markkanen, Zach Collins

The Mavs covet Isaac and have been trying to move up a couple of spots to grab him. So far, they've been unable to work out a deal.

The Mavs were strongly leaning toward Ntilikina, to the point that they invited his head coach at Strasbourg, Vincent Collet, to come coach the Mavs' Orlando Summer League team. However, they walked away from a workout with Smith last week totally smitten by Smith's athleticism and scoring abilities.

If both are on the board, this becomes a really tough decision between getting the best player now and potentially the best player in three years. Dallas hasn't had to be patient for a while. Can it?

There's also talk of the Mavs swapping picks with the Wolves, but right now the cost is too high for Dallas.

Because our moronic front office thinks that 'good locker room presence/nice guy' is worth paying 18 million a year for and keeping regardless of how awful he plays on the court or how good a player in return would fit

It could be a very elaborate 'smokescreen'. It certainly is better to give the appearance that you value players very highly as opposed to do what Phil Jackson has done with Carmelo/Porzingis.

I doubt anyone believes the Mavs would reject Matthews/9 for Rubio/7. It's certainly hard to digest the things you read that almost paint the idea that the Mavs view Matthews as a star but at the same we have to take things with a grain of salt.

You mentioned cap space... they can waive Devin Harris and gain an extra 3 million. That's another thing to monitor with the whole love for veterans in mind.

Great points sir. Thanks for easing my mind a bit.

[Pinkyring]

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9. Dallas Mavericks

Dennis Smith

Other potential draftees: Jonathan Isaac, Frank Ntilikina, Lauri Markkanen, Zach Collins

The Mavs covet Isaac and have been trying to move up a couple of spots to grab him. So far, they've been unable to work out a deal.

The Mavs were strongly leaning toward Ntilikina, to the point that they invited his head coach at Strasbourg, Vincent Collet, to come coach the Mavs' Orlando Summer League team. However, they walked away from a workout with Smith last week totally smitten by Smith's athleticism and scoring abilities.

If both are on the board, this becomes a really tough decision between getting the best player now and potentially the best player in three years. Dallas hasn't had to be patient for a while. Can it?

There's also talk of the Mavs swapping picks with the Wolves, but right now the cost is too high for Dallas.

Because our moronic front office thinks that 'good locker room presence/nice guy' is worth paying 18 million a year for and keeping regardless of how awful he plays on the court or how good a player in return would fit

It could be a very elaborate 'smokescreen'. It certainly is better to give the appearance that you value players very highly as opposed to do what Phil Jackson has done with Carmelo/Porzingis.

I doubt anyone believes the Mavs would reject Matthews/9 for Rubio/7. It's certainly hard to digest the things you read that almost paint the idea that the Mavs view Matthews as a star but at the same we have to take things with a grain of salt.

You mentioned cap space... they can waive Devin Harris and gain an extra 3 million. That's another thing to monitor with the whole love for veterans in mind.

Is fors credible. Hes technically unemployed

[Teffer10]

Yeah, anyone is fine except Markannen and Mitchell or one of the white Bigs like Collins or that Jimmer Fredette 2.0...

When did the Finnish Sniper become non-white and/or small?

[Jinra]

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Yikes Coop!!! Not something we wanna hear.

[Devassa]

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Yikes Coop!!! Not something we wanna hear.

It's always nice knowing the fans don't matter at all to the front office

[Devassa]

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9. Dallas Mavericks

Dennis Smith

Other potential draftees: Jonathan Isaac, Frank Ntilikina, Lauri Markkanen, Zach Collins

The Mavs covet Isaac and have been trying to move up a couple of spots to grab him. So far, they've been unable to work out a deal.

The Mavs were strongly leaning toward Ntilikina, to the point that they invited his head coach at Strasbourg, Vincent Collet, to come coach the Mavs' Orlando Summer League team. However, they walked away from a workout with Smith last week totally smitten by Smith's athleticism and scoring abilities.

If both are on the board, this becomes a really tough decision between getting the best player now and potentially the best player in three years. Dallas hasn't had to be patient for a while. Can it?

There's also talk of the Mavs swapping picks with the Wolves, but right now the cost is too high for Dallas.

Because our moronic front office thinks that 'good locker room presence/nice guy' is worth paying 18 million a year for and keeping regardless of how awful he plays on the court or how good a player in return would fit

It could be a very elaborate 'smokescreen'. It certainly is better to give the appearance that you value players very highly as opposed to do what Phil Jackson has done with Carmelo/Porzingis.

I doubt anyone believes the Mavs would reject Matthews/9 for Rubio/7. It's certainly hard to digest the things you read that almost paint the idea that the Mavs view Matthews as a star but at the same we have to take things with a grain of salt.

You mentioned cap space... they can waive Devin Harris and gain an extra 3 million. That's another thing to monitor with the whole love for veterans in mind.

Well here's to hoping you're right. It just doesn't feel like the front office values winning in the slightest, at least for the next couple years till Matthews expires

[k-lynch201]

If we trade up to 7, whatever the deal is..thats one story.

But we cannot select Frank if were trading up, it depends who Orlando picks, cause they will likely take one player we covet.

Then it depends who Minny would pick, they seem to be interested in a PF/C... and if they take a player like that..we will have one of our top options left at 9, whoever that is.

[Devassa]

If we trade up to 7, whatever the deal is..thats one story.

But we cannot select Frank if were trading up, it depends who Orlando picks, cause they will likely take one player we covet.

Then it depends who Minny would pick, they seem to be interested in a PF/C... and if they take a player like that..we will have one of our top options left at 9, whoever that is.

7 is necessary because even if Isaac is gone, you are guaranteed Smith. Both of those guys are a tier above Ntilikina and Monk in my opinion