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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap 

Post#1121 » by Teffer10 » Sat Jun 21, 2025 8:01 pm

daoneandonly wrote:Get rid of
AD
Martin
Klay
Hardy

If Atl would trade a pick for Gaff, do it

Yep, accumulate all of the draft picks and/or young players you can from these guys and start rebuilding this thing around Flagg immediately.

It makes no sense to waste valuable trade assets like PJ and Gafford on washed up former stars far beyond their prime unless assets that fit the Flagg/Lively/Christie timeline are attached in return.

For instance, I would be OK with:
Klay/Martin/Hardy for Jrue/32 (Proctor)
Gaff for #22 (Clayton or Clifford)
AD and PJ for as many picks as possible.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap 

Post#1122 » by daoneandonly » Sat Jun 21, 2025 11:32 pm

Teffer10 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:Get rid of
AD
Martin
Klay
Hardy

If Atl would trade a pick for Gaff, do it

Yep, accumulate all of the draft picks and/or young players you can from these guys and start rebuilding this thing around Flagg immediately.

It makes no sense to waste valuable trade assets like PJ and Gafford on washed up former stars far beyond their prime unless assets that fit the Flagg/Lively/Christie timeline are attached in return.

For instance, I would be OK with:
Klay/Martin/Hardy for Jrue/32 (Proctor)
Gaff for #22 (Clayton or Clifford)
AD and PJ for as many picks as possible.


I'd do the first 2 and 1/2, but would like to keep PJ. I think his toughness is needed in the locker room.

If we can trade AD for smaller contracts and picks, jump on it
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap 

Post#1123 » by Teffer10 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 1:42 am

daoneandonly wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:Get rid of
AD
Martin
Klay
Hardy

If Atl would trade a pick for Gaff, do it

Yep, accumulate all of the draft picks and/or young players you can from these guys and start rebuilding this thing around Flagg immediately.

It makes no sense to waste valuable trade assets like PJ and Gafford on washed up former stars far beyond their prime unless assets that fit the Flagg/Lively/Christie timeline are attached in return.

For instance, I would be OK with:
Klay/Martin/Hardy for Jrue/32 (Proctor)
Gaff for #22 (Clayton or Clifford)
AD and PJ for as many picks as possible.


I'd do the first 2 and 1/2, but would like to keep PJ. I think his toughness is needed in the locker room.

If we can trade AD for smaller contracts and picks, jump on it

I'm on the fence with PJ.

At 28 he's a little outside of Flagg's timeline but has good trade value that could get us assets that do fit.

However, keeping him would keep us somewhat competitive now.

Kyrie/BWill/Clayton
Jrue/Christie/Proctor
PJ/Naji/OMax
Flagg/Edwards
Lively/Jones/Powell
Plus whatever we yield in the AD trade.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap 

Post#1124 » by arkuo » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:22 am

This should be clear by now. Mavs are not stacking picks. Stacking picks is the rebuilding route. They've made no indication of going with the complete rebuild direction in any news item. Don't go the rebuild fantasy route. The other side of that spectrum is trading Hardy for Giannis, Christie for SGA, Powell for Jokic, Coach K for Kidd and Trump himself to replace Nico. On the topic of fantasy trades that won't happen. I could write a whole essay on how Donald Trump is a better fit here than Nico if there are rumors of him replacing Nico soon after the draft.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap 

Post#1125 » by daoneandonly » Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:31 pm

Teffer10 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:Yep, accumulate all of the draft picks and/or young players you can from these guys and start rebuilding this thing around Flagg immediately.

It makes no sense to waste valuable trade assets like PJ and Gafford on washed up former stars far beyond their prime unless assets that fit the Flagg/Lively/Christie timeline are attached in return.

For instance, I would be OK with:
Klay/Martin/Hardy for Jrue/32 (Proctor)
Gaff for #22 (Clayton or Clifford)
AD and PJ for as many picks as possible.


I'd do the first 2 and 1/2, but would like to keep PJ. I think his toughness is needed in the locker room.

If we can trade AD for smaller contracts and picks, jump on it

I'm on the fence with PJ.

At 28 he's a little outside of Flagg's timeline but has good trade value that could get us assets that do fit.

However, keeping him would keep us somewhat competitive now.

Kyrie/BWill/Clayton
Jrue/Christie/Proctor
PJ/Naji/OMax
Flagg/Edwards
Lively/Jones/Powell
Plus whatever we yield in the AD trade.


I'm only willing to trade PJ if the Mavs were smart enough to trade AD for a guy like Jalen Johnson. Then the front court is set now and the future. PJ can be traded for a guard
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap 

Post#1126 » by daoneandonly » Sun Jun 22, 2025 3:11 pm

Dallas gets: Jalen Johnson, Terrance Mann, #22, Future Atl 1st

Atlanta gets: Anthony Davis, Caleb Martin

Atlanta gets arguably the perfect player outside of Wemby to pair with Trae. AD would give the Hawks one of the best starting 5 in the East. They also turn Mann's bigger contract into Martin's smaller one.

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AD
Risacher
Daniel's
Trae

Dallas Hoops with the Coop time frame. This sets them up with their front court of the now and future. Unleash the Duke Boys. They can then trade PJ for a starting level guard, Monk has been talked about a lot here.

Lively/Gaff
Jalen Johnson/Naji
Cooper Flagg/Klay
PJ Trade target/Mann
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Post#1127 » by Mr B » Sun Jun 22, 2025 3:21 pm

arkuo wrote:This should be clear by now. Mavs are not stacking picks. Stacking picks is the rebuilding route. They've made no indication of going with the complete rebuild direction in any news item. Don't go the rebuild fantasy route. The other side of that spectrum is trading Hardy for Giannis, Christie for SGA, Powell for Jokic, Coach K for Kidd and Trump himself to replace Nico. On the topic of fantasy trades that won't happen. I could write a whole essay on how Donald Trump is a better fit here than Nico if there are rumors of him replacing Nico soon after the draft.

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Post#1128 » by Mr B » Sun Jun 22, 2025 3:27 pm

arkuo wrote:This should be clear by now. Mavs are not stacking picks. Stacking picks is the rebuilding route. They've made no indication of going with the complete rebuild direction in any news item. Don't go the rebuild fantasy route. The other side of that spectrum is trading Hardy for Giannis, Christie for SGA, Powell for Jokic, Coach K for Kidd and Trump himself to replace Nico. On the topic of fantasy trades that won't happen. I could write a whole essay on how Donald Trump is a better fit here than Nico if there are rumors of him replacing Nico soon after the draft.

The more likely scenario is the Mavs just trade for a PG like Ball (minor trade) and bring back both Gaff and PJ. Their main addition will be Cooper Flagg in the draft. I think they also draft a PG (the next Brunson?).

There is a chance that the Mavs could get involved in a 3 team trade that nets them a PG. In this scenario I think they end up with a better PG than Ball (Sexton? Coby White?) but likely also lose Gafford.

Personally I’m still on board with just waiting until the Trade Deadline. Bring back to whole team and see what trades materialize at the halfway mark.
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Post#1129 » by arkuo » Sun Jun 22, 2025 3:50 pm

Mr B wrote:
arkuo wrote:This should be clear by now. Mavs are not stacking picks. Stacking picks is the rebuilding route. They've made no indication of going with the complete rebuild direction in any news item. Don't go the rebuild fantasy route. The other side of that spectrum is trading Hardy for Giannis, Christie for SGA, Powell for Jokic, Coach K for Kidd and Trump himself to replace Nico. On the topic of fantasy trades that won't happen. I could write a whole essay on how Donald Trump is a better fit here than Nico if there are rumors of him replacing Nico soon after the draft.

The more likely scenario is the Mavs just trade for a PG like Ball (minor trade) and bring back both Gaff and PJ. Their main addition will be Cooper Flagg in the draft. I think they also draft a PG (the next Brunson?).

There is a chance that the Mavs could get involved in a 3 team trade that nets them a PG. In this scenario I think they end up with a better PG than Ball (Sexton? Coby White?) but likely also lose Gafford.

Personally I’m still on board with just waiting until the Trade Deadline. Bring back to whole team and see what trades materialize at the halfway mark.



I think the move that makes the most sense is to start the season with everyone first to see where you're at with Flagg. Then make adjustments as you go along. There is no need to trade Gaff and PJ for pennies on the dollar just for the sake of making a trade. I've read news about Bulls declining an offer from Orlando for Coby White and that included 2 first rounders. If that were true, Mavs are priced out. Might as well just sign Brogdon, CP3 or DLo for the minimum and wait for Kyrie to get back.

If the Bulls are high on Coby White, which reports say they are, and are still re-signing Giddey to a big deal, then letting Lonzo Ball go makes sense. You can't keep everyone.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap 

Post#1130 » by arkuo » Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:44 pm

KD finally got traded to Houston.
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Post#1131 » by arkuo » Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:06 pm

I think Houston got stronger with KD, Amen Thompson and Sengun.

But the thing is the rockets now have 3 shooting guards with Booker, Beal and Green.

If they are willing to part with Green for more pieces, I think I'd be okay with sending PJ and Gaff.

Green is just 23 years old. He'll fit with Flagg.
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Post#1132 » by Captain_Obvious » Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:58 pm

I think this is not good for Houston

- KD is a 4. He doesn't work with a Sengun/Adams lineup and hinders Smith and Eason.
- Defense is what worked for the Rockets and you lose a big piece in Brooks.

If they announce a big extension for KD this is a big mistake
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Post#1133 » by daoneandonly » Sun Jun 22, 2025 6:12 pm

Captain_Obvious wrote:I think this is not good for Houston

- KD is a 4. He doesn't work with a Sengun/Adams lineup and hinders Smith and Eason.
- Defense is what worked for the Rockets and you lose a big piece in Brooks.

If they announce a big extension for KD this is a big mistake


Trading Jalen Green is addition by subtraction, that is dude is trash
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Post#1134 » by Mavrelous » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:32 pm

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Post#1135 » by G R E Y » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:06 pm

Any insights into Sean Sweeney? We just signed him from you guys and he interviewed for a couple of HC positions. Apparently we've been after him for a while.
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Post#1136 » by Mr B » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:22 pm

G R E Y wrote:Any insights into Sean Sweeney? We just signed him from you guys and he interviewed for a couple of HC positions. Apparently we've been after him for a while.

Losing Sweeney is huge for Dallas. They did recently hire two new assistant coaches so I know that they knew Sweeney was going to leave.

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Post#1137 » by HMFFL » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:37 pm

Assistant Coach Sean Sweeney will be missed. He has agreed to take the lead assistant coaching job for the Spurs.

I hope going forward we'll have and keep a strong and consistent core of coaches. Our future depends on it.

The ownership and Nico seem to not have much common sense.
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Post#1138 » by daoneandonly » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:40 pm

HMFFL wrote:Assistant Coach Sean Sweeney will be missed. He has agreed to take the lead assistant coaching job for the Spurs.

I hope going forward we'll have and keep a strong and consistent core of coaches. Our future depends on it.

The ownership and Nico seem to not have much common sense.


As a Mavs Hawks fan, what do you think of a deal centered around AD for Jalen Johnson?
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Post#1139 » by Darren » Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:00 am

arkuo wrote:I think Houston got stronger with KD, Amen Thompson and Sengun.

But the thing is the rockets now have 3 shooting guards with Booker, Beal and Green.

If they are willing to part with Green for more pieces, I think I'd be okay with sending PJ and Gaff.

Green is just 23 years old. He'll fit with Flagg.


Green is traded to Pheonix. I can't believe KD only net Pheonix a mid-1st (taking on Green) to trade up.
So this is the asking price of ageing player. A pick outside of top 10 with a role player.
But AD does have higher value than KD for sure given age and contract.
LAL does owe the Mavs a lot in the Luka trade. The Mavs management is awful in bargaining.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap 

Post#1140 » by Darren » Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:12 am

Kyrie opts in. That means there's a 1-year window. Kyrie will leave next offseason.
Let's not take on Holiday. Just trade for Lonzo Ball. Mavs offseason is done.
By 2026, the Mavs could rebuild completely. That means let's not trade Gafford of PJ.
With so many players on contract year, the Mavs should be competitive coming offseason.
Everyone know the time is now. Only 1-year window is opened.

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