Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page

[Bob8]

I will say that Gafford/Cisse will play a ton more minutes than Lively/Gafford. Maybe trading Lively is the better option.

Trading Lively for who? His trading value is extremely low at the moment and his contract is only 5 mio, so you will need to add someone like Klay, who is probably negative asset. You're not getting anything good back for sure. He's still very young, so it has much more sense to wait and hope he becomes healthier.

You seem to be under the impression that when I say trade Lively you think I mean trade him right now for a sack of beans. That would be idiotic. Obviously he has to play and raise his stock. If that means trading him after you resign him that’s fine. But the fact is he’s injury prone. So unless you’re fine playing him an average of about 25 min a game (exactly how they managed Tyson Chandler in 2011) he’s going to continue to get hurt.

I mostly reply with having in mind what previous posters were saying and you replied to poster, who wants to trade him ASAP.

[Mr B]

Trading Lively for who? His trading value is extremely low at the moment and his contract is only 5 mio, so you will need to add someone like Klay, who is probably negative asset. You're not getting anything good back for sure. He's still very young, so it has much more sense to wait and hope he becomes healthier.

You seem to be under the impression that when I say trade Lively you think I mean trade him right now for a sack of beans. That would be idiotic. Obviously he has to play and raise his stock. If that means trading him after you resign him that’s fine. But the fact is he’s injury prone. So unless you’re fine playing him an average of about 25 min a game (exactly how they managed Tyson Chandler in 2011) he’s going to continue to get hurt.

I mostly reply with having in mind what previous posters were saying and you replied to a poster, who wants to trade him ASAP.

Don’t read more into my posts than what I actually say. Usually when I post I’m just responding to the actual post I quoted.

[Bob8]

You seem to be under the impression that when I say trade Lively you think I mean trade him right now for a sack of beans. That would be idiotic. Obviously he has to play and raise his stock. If that means trading him after you resign him that’s fine. But the fact is he’s injury prone. So unless you’re fine playing him an average of about 25 min a game (exactly how they managed Tyson Chandler in 2011) he’s going to continue to get hurt.

I mostly reply with having in mind what previous posters were saying and you replied to a poster, who wants to trade him ASAP.

Don’t read more into my posts than what I actually say. Usually when I post I’m just responding to the actual post I quoted.

Yes, and ASAP was used in the quoted post.

[Archx]

Yikes. Basically it's what i was already talking about in previous post about AD. No wonder Cuban is trying to act like Mavs don't even want to trade him.

[Bontemps] Teams are not lining up to trade for Dallas Mavericks superstar Anthony Davis.

"I shouldn't say it's not gonna happen... but, you talk to people in the league, there's not a lot of teams that are lining up to take on a 35-year-old Anthony Davis making $63 million, and you have to assume that he's gonna opt into that deal.

[Mr B]

I mostly reply with having in mind what previous posters were saying and you replied to a poster, who wants to trade him ASAP.

Don’t read more into my posts than what I actually say. Usually when I post I’m just responding to the actual post I quoted.

Yes, and ASAP was used in the quoted post.

Like I said, don’t read more into my post than what I actually say. There’s no hidden message. What I say is what I mean. Besides I also have explained it to you so you can understand. If you still don’t get it then just move on.

[Mr B]

Yikes. Basically it's what i was already talking about in previous post about AD. No wonder Cuban is trying to act like Mavs don't even want to trade him.

[Bontemps] Teams are not lining up to trade for Dallas Mavericks superstar Anthony Davis.

"I shouldn't say it's not gonna happen... but, you talk to people in the league, there's not a lot of teams that are lining up to take on a 35-year-old Anthony Davis making $63 million, and you have to assume that he's gonna opt into that deal.

The Mavs don’t need “a lot” of teams to be standing in line for AD. 1 or 2 teams will be just fine.

[Bob8]

Don’t read more into my posts than what I actually say. Usually when I post I’m just responding to the actual post I quoted.

Yes, and ASAP was used in the quoted post.

Like I said, don’t read more into my post than what I actually say. There’s no hidden message. What I say is what I mean. Besides I also have explained it to you so you can understand. If you still don’t get it then just move on.

I understand now, you answered poster who wants to trade Lively ASAP in 2025 trade thread, but you're actually talking about trading Lively in few years time.

[arkuo]

Yikes. Basically it's what i was already talking about in previous post about AD. No wonder Cuban is trying to act like Mavs don't even want to trade him.

[Bontemps] Teams are not lining up to trade for Dallas Mavericks superstar Anthony Davis.

"I shouldn't say it's not gonna happen... but, you talk to people in the league, there's not a lot of teams that are lining up to take on a 35-year-old Anthony Davis making $63 million, and you have to assume that he's gonna opt into that deal.

The Mavs don’t need “a lot” of teams to be standing in line for AD. 1 or 2 teams will be just fine.

According to Bontemps, AD also turned 35 years old without anyone else knowing. Happy 35th birthday, AD! Have a good one

Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.

[Archx]

Yikes. Basically it's what i was already talking about in previous post about AD. No wonder Cuban is trying to act like Mavs don't even want to trade him.

[Bontemps] Teams are not lining up to trade for Dallas Mavericks superstar Anthony Davis.

"I shouldn't say it's not gonna happen... but, you talk to people in the league, there's not a lot of teams that are lining up to take on a 35-year-old Anthony Davis making $63 million, and you have to assume that he's gonna opt into that deal.

The Mavs don’t need “a lot” of teams to be standing in line for AD. 1 or 2 teams will be just fine.

According to Bontemps, AD also turned 35 years old without anyone else knowing. Happy 35th birthday, AD! Have a good one

Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.

At age 34 AD will be owed 63M with player option and at age 35 he'll be eligible for another max (if any team is stupid enough). So, technically speaking, where is he wrong?

The more teams there are fighting for a player, the more chances you have to get a good offer. It's a simple trading logic but with AD it's going to be hard to achieve that.

[Mr B]

Yes, and ASAP was used in the quoted post.

Like I said, don’t read more into my post than what I actually say. There’s no hidden message. What I say is what I mean. Besides I also have explained it to you so you can understand. If you still don’t get it then just move on.

I understand now, you answered poster who wants to trade Lively ASAP in 2025 trade thread, but you're actually talking about trading Lively in few years time.

Correct. I don’t think it’s a good idea to trade him while his value is low however they definitely should be looking to trade him soon (within a year or so). His minutes need to be regulated to about 25 per game to avoid the risk of injury. As long as he’s fairly healthy that should be enough time for him to raise his stock.

[Mr B]

Yikes. Basically it's what i was already talking about in previous post about AD. No wonder Cuban is trying to act like Mavs don't even want to trade him.

[Bontemps] Teams are not lining up to trade for Dallas Mavericks superstar Anthony Davis.

"I shouldn't say it's not gonna happen... but, you talk to people in the league, there's not a lot of teams that are lining up to take on a 35-year-old Anthony Davis making $63 million, and you have to assume that he's gonna opt into that deal.

The Mavs don’t need “a lot” of teams to be standing in line for AD. 1 or 2 teams will be just fine.

According to Bontemps, AD also turned 35 years old without anyone else knowing. Happy 35th birthday, AD! Have a good one

Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.

What exactly does that have to do with the Mavs only needing 1 or 2 teams to be interested in AD?

[Bob8]

The Mavs don’t need “a lot” of teams to be standing in line for AD. 1 or 2 teams will be just fine.

According to Bontemps, AD also turned 35 years old without anyone else knowing. Happy 35th birthday, AD! Have a good one

Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.

At age 34 AD will be owed 63M with player option and at age 35 he'll be eligible for another max (if any team is stupid enough). So, technically speaking, where is he wrong?

The more teams there are fighting for a player, the more chances you have to get a good offer. It's a simple trading logic but with AD it's going to be hard to achieve that.

Problem with trading AD is that teams interested in him will be desperate contenders and those teams normally don't have a lot of assets on disposal.

[Archx]

The Mavs don’t need “a lot” of teams to be standing in line for AD. 1 or 2 teams will be just fine.

According to Bontemps, AD also turned 35 years old without anyone else knowing. Happy 35th birthday, AD! Have a good one

Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.

What exactly does that have to do with the Mavs only needing 1 or 2 teams to be interested in AD?

I think he just tried to be smart by pretending Bontemps was talking nonsense but unfortunately Arkuo didn't fact check himself and achieved the opposite result
Even if Bontemps mixed up one year in his statement, what he said is still very relevant and true.

Problem with trading AD is that teams interested in him will be desperate contenders and those teams normally don't have a lot of assets on disposal.

Yes, that is a very good point.

[arkuo]

The Mavs don’t need “a lot” of teams to be standing in line for AD. 1 or 2 teams will be just fine.

According to Bontemps, AD also turned 35 years old without anyone else knowing. Happy 35th birthday, AD! Have a good one

Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.

At age 34 AD will be owed 63M with player option and at age 35 he'll be eligible for another max (if any team is stupid enough). So, technically speaking, where is he wrong?

The more teams there are fighting for a player, the more chances you have to get a good offer. It's a simple trading logic but with AD it's going to be hard to achieve that.

AD is just 32 years old. That's the context of my post hence the laughing emoji.

But if you want to dissect it and analyze it further then knock yourself out. It's just an online message board. Take it easy.

[Mavrelous]

Yikes. Basically it's what i was already talking about in previous post about AD. No wonder Cuban is trying to act like Mavs don't even want to trade him.

[Bontemps] Teams are not lining up to trade for Dallas Mavericks superstar Anthony Davis.

"I shouldn't say it's not gonna happen... but, you talk to people in the league, there's not a lot of teams that are lining up to take on a 35-year-old Anthony Davis making $63 million, and you have to assume that he's gonna opt into that deal.

The Mavs don’t need “a lot” of teams to be standing in line for AD. 1 or 2 teams will be just fine.

According to Bontemps, AD also turned 35 years old without anyone else knowing. Happy 35th birthday, AD! Have a good one

Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.

Yeah, I listened to the episode, he's speculating based on weak data.

[Archx]

According to Bontemps, AD also turned 35 years old without anyone else knowing. Happy 35th birthday, AD! Have a good one

Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.

At age 34 AD will be owed 63M with player option and at age 35 he'll be eligible for another max (if any team is stupid enough). So, technically speaking, where is he wrong?

The more teams there are fighting for a player, the more chances you have to get a good offer. It's a simple trading logic but with AD it's going to be hard to achieve that.

AD is just 32 years old. That's the context of my post hence the laughing emoji.

But if you want to dissect it and analyze it further then knock yourself out. It's just an online message board. Take it easy.

It's not a big deal. Bontemps was talking about end of his contract, i see how someone could get confused without hearing the full context of his speech.

[arkuo]

The Mavs don’t need “a lot” of teams to be standing in line for AD. 1 or 2 teams will be just fine.

According to Bontemps, AD also turned 35 years old without anyone else knowing. Happy 35th birthday, AD! Have a good one

Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.

Yeah, I listened to the episode, he's speculating based on weak data.

With Cuban back on the table, I expect them to be tighter lipped especially with Tim Macmahon. Those 2 have history.

[arkuo]

At age 34 AD will be owed 63M with player option and at age 35 he'll be eligible for another max (if any team is stupid enough). So, technically speaking, where is he wrong?

The more teams there are fighting for a player, the more chances you have to get a good offer. It's a simple trading logic but with AD it's going to be hard to achieve that.

AD is just 32 years old. That's the context of my post hence the laughing emoji.

But if you want to dissect it and analyze it further then knock yourself out. It's just an online message board. Take it easy.

It's not a big deal. Bontemps was talking about end of his contract, i see how someone could get confused without hearing the full context of his speech.

Yeah wasn't serious. Just trolling. Was looking for something to laugh at like I normally do.

Don't take it personal Arch. It's a generational gap. The old guys here back then were characters. I remember we'd had that DunleavyJr guy who was glazing all day for Shawn Bradley. And JB-something guy who didn't talk but just post pictures as replies. It was a different time.

[Mr B]

According to Bontemps, AD also turned 35 years old without anyone else knowing. Happy 35th birthday, AD! Have a good one

Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.

At age 34 AD will be owed 63M with player option and at age 35 he'll be eligible for another max (if any team is stupid enough). So, technically speaking, where is he wrong?

The more teams there are fighting for a player, the more chances you have to get a good offer. It's a simple trading logic but with AD it's going to be hard to achieve that.

Problem with trading AD is that teams interested in him will be desperate contenders and those teams normally don't have a lot of assets on disposal.

True, but as we’ve all discussed on here due to his age and contract size a young team is not going to give you valuable assets for him. Contending teams are going to be the only ones seriously interested. You want The most value you can get but you also have to be realistic.

[Archx]

AD is just 32 years old. That's the context of my post hence the laughing emoji.

But if you want to dissect it and analyze it further then knock yourself out. It's just an online message board. Take it easy.

It's not a big deal. Bontemps was talking about end of his contract, i see how someone could get confused without hearing the full context of his speech.

Yeah wasn't serious. Just trolling. Was looking for something to laugh at like I normally do.

Don't take it personal Arch. It's a generational gap. The old guys here back then were characters. I remember we'd had that DunleavyJr guy who was glazing all day for Shawn Bradley. And JB-something guy who didn't talk but just post pictures as replies. It was a different time.

Lol it's ok, i just thought you understood Bontemps wrong.