Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page

[Super Cooper]

Seems like he's missing extended time, he won't play against the Lakers, doubt he plays in 2025...
Oh you're talking about AD, it would be real petty if he is activated against LAL

Yeah was talking about AD. Everyone knows what the LAL game will be and AD will probably need limited minutes anyway, no reason to play him at all.

But speaking also about Lively.... he has become like a total mystery. So many nagging injuries just keep pilling up. Then comes back, slowly gets back into rhythm and then back to the injury list.

I challenge you to tell me if he reminds you of a certain star few years back with a similar pattern.

He reminds of a young Tyson Chandler. He was very injury prone as a young player. Then when he got to Dallas Carlisle was only playing him about 25 min a game. Whenever he averaged more minutes than that he got injured.

Tyson played in 71 games his rookie season and and 75 his second year. I wish it was a good comp bc I love TC, but we're in Oden and Ellison territory for comps. Some bigs start off playing a lot, then get hurt, then make a recovery, like your example of TC. DLive makes AD look like Cal Ripken.

BTW, if Lively doesn't play more than 7 more games this season, he'll be worst than Oden's first 2 years, the all-time medical bust.

[Super Cooper]

What is frustrating about DLive is that there isn't just one recurring injury. He's like the guy with red light up nose in the game "Operation". Knee, right foot, ankle, hip, shoulder, neck, nasal fractures, back, and illnesses.

DLive's injury history:

Quick Answer: Dereck Lively II has already built a notable injury history in his short NBA career, including multiple ankle sprains, knee issues, nasal fractures, hip and shoulder problems, and most significantly recurring right foot injuries (stress fracture and bone spur surgery). These repeated setbacks have raised concerns about his long-term durability.

Detailed Breakdown of Lively’s Injury History
Major Foot Injuries
- Stress fracture in right foot (2024–25 season):
Missed 36 games due to this injury, which was considered his most serious setback.
- Bone spur surgery (Summer 2025):
Underwent surgery to remove bone spurs from the same right foot. Expected to be ready for training camp, but this marked his second significant foot injury in just over a year.
These foot issues are the biggest red flag, as repeated injuries to the same area often signal long-term durability concerns.

Other Injuries (2023–2025)
According to FOX Sports’ injury log:
- Knee: Multiple incidents (Nov 2024, Mar 2024, Oct 2025).
- Ankle: Several sprains (Jan 2024, Dec 2023, Apr 2025, Jan 2025).
- Hip: December 2024.
- Shoulder: November 2024.
- Neck: May 2024.
- Nasal fractures: February 2024 (three separate nose-related injuries in quick succession).
- Back: November 2023.
- Illnesses: November 2023 and November 2024.
- Personal absence: March 2024.

Context and Impact
- In his first two NBA seasons, Lively appeared in 91 regular-season games, but missed significant stretches due to injuries.
- Despite his defensive upside (blocks, rebounds, rim protection), his availability has become a concern for Dallas.
- The Mavericks have hedged their bets by adding Daniel Gafford and relying on Anthony Davis at times, signaling that the front office is wary of Lively’s durability.

⚠️ Key Takeaway
Dereck Lively’s injury history is already extensive for a 21-year-old center. The recurring right foot problems are the most concerning, as they could limit his ability to anchor Dallas long-term. While he remains a promising defensive big, the Mavericks may need to plan around the possibility that he won’t consistently stay healthy.

[Maverick41]

Another variation of the CHI AD deals:

DAL receives: A. Black + Jett Howard + Huerter + Z. Collins + 26 CHI FRP + Favorable of LAL or WAS 28 SRP (from ORL)
ORL receives: C. White
CHI receives: AD + Hardy

DAL gets a young and homegrown guy in Black. He can easily play with Kyrie and can grow with Flagg. Jett Howard is more filler since ORL declined his option and will lose him anyway. We can at least try him out since he was a former lottery pick who's shown flashes at times. Huerter and Collins are expiring fillers. Also get a 26 FRP + a really good SRP in 28. Obviously we try to push for an additional FRP or more SRPs if possible.

ORL goes all in on now. Coby fits extremely well with their current nucleus.

CHI gets their own homegrown guy in AD and tries to make a little noise in the East.

[daoneandonly]

Yea but I didnt realize NYK cant trade their 26 pick because that Wiz pick they have wont convey and then they owe the 27 pick to BKN. But DET is the team i was thinkign to take OG, though Id really push for Ausar and let them keep Ivey and a FRP. Doubt they do it though. Also maybe SA with Castle since they have Harper and Fox.

But feel like NY would be one of the best AD targets since they have Brunson and KAT. Plus, the NBA would salivate at a potential NY LAL finals where its AD/Brunson vs Luka/Lebron

I highly doubt DET would trade Ausar. Holland might be a possibility. Realistically though, it's Ivey particularly because of the emergence of Jenkins.

For SA, Castle is a dream for me. If they offer him, I take it without hesitation but imo they probably would shop Fox before him. Or at least, that's what I would do if I was their GM.

I do think like you that NY would be one of the best fits for AD. He helps clean up Brunson and KAT'S defensive woes if he can get in shape and healthy. It would also help with the Klutch relationship by trading AD to a contender and big market. I know agents may not be talked about that much here but it makes a difference, especially in today's NBA. Most Knicks fans I know though seem a lot more keen on trading KAT then OG though.

Yea it was wishful thinking on my part. For a second I was also thinking of an OG for Garland swap, but the new NBA rules make it impossible because OG makes like 120K more, and it has to be either exactly the same or the incoming Cle player making less

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[Super Cooper]

Another variation of the CHI AD deals:

DAL receives: A. Black + Jett Howard + Huerter + Z. Collins + 26 CHI FRP + Favorable of LAL or WAS 28 SRP (from ORL)
ORL receives: C. White
CHI receives: AD + Hardy

DAL gets a young and homegrown guy in Black. He can easily play with Kyrie and can grow with Flagg. Jett Howard is more filler since ORL declined his option and will lose him anyway. We can at least try him out since he was a former lottery pick who's shown flashes at times. Huerter and Collins are expiring fillers. Also get a 26 FRP + a really good SRP in 28. Obviously we try to push for an additional FRP or more SRPs if possible.

ORL goes all in on now. Coby fits extremely well with their current nucleus.

CHI gets their own homegrown guy in AD and tries to make a little noise in the East.

I would love that deal. Black is going to be something, watched the game last night. I just don't know if ORL would rather White than Black (kinda funny).