2020 Offseason Strategy Thread

[Pointguard01]

Yeah, a Morris like player makes sense. I don’t think we have a way to get him, as LAC wouldn’t want to S&T him to us and I can’t imagine he signs for the MLE.

My issue with him is really age and timeline. He’s 31 next year. How many years does he have left? That said, it’s the right type of move for us if we could and would support it if possible.

[arkuo]

Looks like Elton Brand's job is on the line. Being down 0-2. Any chance we could get in if they plan to ship out Embiid or Simmons?

[arkuo]

Yeah, a Morris like player makes sense. I don’t think we have a way to get him, as LAC wouldn’t want to S&T him to us and I can’t imagine he signs for the MLE.

My issue with him is really age and timeline. He’s 31 next year. How many years does he have left? That said, it’s the right type of move for us if we could and would support it if possible.

Just draft Xavier Tillman at 18. Similar player. Top 5 defender in the country. Collegiate level.

[Teffer10]

Looks like Elton Brand's job is on the line. Being down 0-2. Any chance we could get in if they plan to ship out Embiid or Simmons?

No chance but I'd definitely love to see the Mavs try to make a deal for Richardson who would be more realistic and probably a better fit for our system.

[Teffer10]

Yeah, a Morris like player makes sense. I don’t think we have a way to get him, as LAC wouldn’t want to S&T him to us and I can’t imagine he signs for the MLE.

My issue with him is really age and timeline. He’s 31 next year. How many years does he have left? That said, it’s the right type of move for us if we could and would support it if possible.

Just draft Xavier Tillman at 18. Similar player. Top 5 defender in the country. Collegiate level.

I had to do some research and watch some of Tillman's highlight videos because of all of the talk and hype on this board and I do like what he could bring.
I'm concerned about a few things though.
His game reminds me a lot of Thomas Robinson's and he is about the same size. Big strong guys who are basically "tweeners" that dominate the paint at the collegiate level often struggle at the NBA level. Doesn't mean he won't make it but I'm not sure he'll be a good fit much like my thoughts on Isaiah Stewart. I'd love to see a big bruiser playing next to KP but I'm not sure Tillman has the credentials that will get him minutes under Carlisle.

I like Tillman's game and think we desperately need someone like that on a roster but I wouldn't want to waste a decent draft pick on him because those types of guys seem to be achievable cheaply in other ways. I thought we should have considered picking up Kenneth Faried a while back to bring some of that strength and toughness to our team.

That's why I really like Marcus Morris because he brings all of that and would be a good fit because he can spread the floor as well.
I was shocked that his name didn't come up for the Mavs in trade talks around the deadline because he was obviously available and we probably had the resources to get him. Imagine if he was in a Mavs uniform right now and not in a Clips. Could be the difference.

[arkuo]

That's why I really like Marcus Morris because he brings all of that and would be a good fit because he can spread the floor as well.
I was shocked that his name didn't come up for the Mavs in trade talks around the deadline because he was obviously available and we probably had the resources to get him. Imagine if he was in a Mavs uniform right now and not in a Clips. Could be the difference.

I think Cuban stayed away from Morris on purpose at the time, because of that Rich Paul connection. Anything Rich Paul, Cuban will stay away from. And vice versa.

[Teffer10]

That's why I really like Marcus Morris because he brings all of that and would be a good fit because he can spread the floor as well.
I was shocked that his name didn't come up for the Mavs in trade talks around the deadline because he was obviously available and we probably had the resources to get him. Imagine if he was in a Mavs uniform right now and not in a Clips. Could be the difference.

I think Cuban stayed away from Morris on purpose at the time, because of that Rich Paul connection. Anything Rich Paul, Cuban will stay away from. And vice versa.

Ah, that makes sense.

[Pointguard01]

Morris also has a knack/reputation of being a ball-stopper on offense. But a big Forward that can shoot and defender is exactly what we need.

[aggerrard]

Avery Bradley with the MLE, if he opts out?

What about Bertans as a lethal shooter?

[Darren]

Yeah, a Morris like player makes sense. I don’t think we have a way to get him, as LAC wouldn’t want to S&T him to us and I can’t imagine he signs for the MLE.

My issue with him is really age and timeline. He’s 31 next year. How many years does he have left? That said, it’s the right type of move for us if we could and would support it if possible.

Just draft Xavier Tillman at 18. Similar player. Top 5 defender in the country. Collegiate level.

Is Tillman better than DFS at least defensively? Could Tillman guard some positions than DFS? That's the question mark I have. I think Tillman could be had at 31 instead of 18. I'd target a defensive player who can guard speedy PG or elite swingman first. I think we can still get elite defender that can guard bigger players at 31.

Technically, I am trying to put it that way.
1.Brunson + 18 for elite defender who can guard 1-3 Vessell?
2.Keep 31 for a big that can guard 4-5 mostly but 3 somewhat.
3.Situational scenario:
- if TH opts out, get under the cap to sign FVV and Grant; keep Burke or sign Yogi.
- if TH opts in, trade Wright without involving any pick except future 2nd or Miami 2023 2nd; keep Burke or sign Yogi and keep basically the same team.
4.Shoot for veteran minimum athletic players such as Tacko Fall, Reaves or elite shooters such as Broekhoff, Barea and so on without big money involved.
5.Sign someone to one-year contract, playoff-tested veteran on last leg like VC did in Dallas or maybe athletic freak who's yet to find any rhythm such as Hezonja, to fill the rest of roster need.
6.Do not pick up Jackson's option

C - KP / Boban / Fall
PF - Maxi / Broek / rookie at 31
SF - Doncic / DFS / FA
SG - TH / rookie at 18 with trade-up attempt for Brunson / Reaves
PG - Curry / Burke or Yogi / Barea

1st round - Vessell, Nesmith, Bey, Green, McDaniels, etc.
2nd round - Achiuwa, Smith, Tillman, Carey, etc.

In 2021, target Giannis, Gobert and maybe oladipo.

[arkuo]

Is Tillman better than DFS at least defensively? Could Tillman guard some positions than DFS? That's the question mark I have. I think Tillman could be had at 31 instead of 18. I'd target a defensive player who can guard speedy PG or elite swingman first. I think we can still get elite defender that can guard bigger players at 31.

Tillman is stocky like Ron Artest. He can guard 3 to 5. DFS can guard 1 to 3. Tillman hangs around the dunker spot to box out. Which is perfect when your 7'3 center is standing 30 feet away waiting for spot up threes. As a rookie I can see him backing up Maxi Kleber. Eventually working his way up the lineup.

That's a top 5 defender in the country. That should at least count for something.

[Mr B]

Yeah, a Morris like player makes sense. I don’t think we have a way to get him, as LAC wouldn’t want to S&T him to us and I can’t imagine he signs for the MLE.

My issue with him is really age and timeline. He’s 31 next year. How many years does he have left? That said, it’s the right type of move for us if we could and would support it if possible.

I don’t know if you guys remember all the guys the Mavs were trying to acquire last off season but Marcus Morris was one of them, he chose the Clippers. The Mavs were also trying to acquire Patrick Beverly, Danny Green, and Kemba Walker. Kemba was close to signing and it was down to Mavs or Celtics, obviously he chose Celtics.

But can you imagine this team with those 4 guys, Luka, and KP?


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[arkuo]

Yeah, a Morris like player makes sense. I don’t think we have a way to get him, as LAC wouldn’t want to S&T him to us and I can’t imagine he signs for the MLE.

My issue with him is really age and timeline. He’s 31 next year. How many years does he have left? That said, it’s the right type of move for us if we could and would support it if possible.

I don’t know if you guys remember all the guys the Mavs were trying to acquire last off season but Marcus Morris was one of them, he chose the Clippers. The Mavs were also trying to acquire Patrick Beverly, Danny Green, and Kemba Walker. Kemba was close to signing and it was down to Mavs or Celtics, obviously he chose Celtics.

But can you imagine this team with those 4 guys, Luka, and KP?


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That would have be awesome.

In a parallel universe we would have been 4th seed, the Rockets would have been 5th. KP would have averaged 35ppg that series while having 6'5 PJ Tucker guarding him at center.

[HMFFL]

I would like yo see us inquire about Jarrett Allen. Brooklyn will make many changes this off-season. While Jarrett is probably a fixture in Brooklyn I would love to have him in Dallas if he's available. The price would be high.

2020-21: $3,909,902
2021:22: $5,661,538 {Team Option}

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[Mike lorenzo]

I'm not sure Mavs are going to recruit 2 rookies
think in such an uncertain draft and it seems # 31
can bring advantages it's cheaper can try to sign a Bi-directional contract and see what they bring
T. Bey / Bane / Mcdaniels / C. Stanley / J. Ramsey between any of these guys it could be a robbery
see no big differences with the boys in the mid
# 18 deve der used for an update

[jpengland]

Unless we can tempt a true third star then we need to stand pat, keep trying to unearth rotation players out of thin air and add a vet or two on one year deals.

Let KP and Luka get another year under their belts and then go big in 21 free agency

[Pointguard01]

Yeah, a Morris like player makes sense. I don’t think we have a way to get him, as LAC wouldn’t want to S&T him to us and I can’t imagine he signs for the MLE.

My issue with him is really age and timeline. He’s 31 next year. How many years does he have left? That said, it’s the right type of move for us if we could and would support it if possible.

I don’t know if you guys remember all the guys the Mavs were trying to acquire last off season but Marcus Morris was one of them, he chose the Clippers. The Mavs were also trying to acquire Patrick Beverly, Danny Green, and Kemba Walker. Kemba was close to signing and it was down to Mavs or Celtics, obviously he chose Celtics.

But can you imagine this team with those 4 guys, Luka, and KP?


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We would have only been able to get 1 (or 2) of the 4. We had 28-29 million in cap space and both Green and Morris went for 15-million each. Kemba would have been the entire cap space too.

I’m very happy we didn’t though. Kemba (knees), Green (old and too 1-dimensional) or Beverley (doesn’t fit this teams timeline) just aren’t long term fits. Morris is better but he was def not a higher target than those 3 based on reports.

Curry has been such a good fit (4-yrs younger than Green/Beverley). The Wright contract seems like a mistake though, but hopefully moveable.

I’m still disappointed we didn’t go after Brogron. He was my #1 option and we could have had him + Curry. He’s the perfect #3 for this team.

[Mr B]

Yeah, a Morris like player makes sense. I don’t think we have a way to get him, as LAC wouldn’t want to S&T him to us and I can’t imagine he signs for the MLE.

My issue with him is really age and timeline. He’s 31 next year. How many years does he have left? That said, it’s the right type of move for us if we could and would support it if possible.

I don’t know if you guys remember all the guys the Mavs were trying to acquire last off season but Marcus Morris was one of them, he chose the Clippers. The Mavs were also trying to acquire Patrick Beverly, Danny Green, and Kemba Walker. Kemba was close to signing and it was down to Mavs or Celtics, obviously he chose Celtics.

But can you imagine this team with those 4 guys, Luka, and KP?


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We would have only been able to get 1 (or 2) of the 4. We had 28-29 million in cap space and both Green and Morris went for 15-million each. Kemba would have been the entire cap space too.

I’m very happy we didn’t though. Kemba (knees), Green (old and too 1-dimensional) or Beverley (doesn’t fit this teams timeline) just aren’t long term fits. Morris is better but he was def not a higher target than those 3 based on reports.

Curry has been such a good fit (4-yrs younger than Green/Beverley). The Wright contract seems like a mistake though, but hopefully moveable.

I’m still disappointed we didn’t go after Brogron. He was my #1 option and we could have had him + Curry. He’s the perfect #3 for this team.

I definitely see your point however about Green and Beverly’s age however I think Green wold have had a better year in Dallas than what he’s had in LA. He’s no more 1 dimensional than Curry. Curry is cheaper but Green comes off the books in 2021.

Kemba’s knee would have been an issue but Kemba would be better and more consistent than THJ or Curry.


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[HMFFL]

Unless we can tempt a true third star then we need to stand pat, keep trying to unearth rotation players out of thin air and add a vet or two on one year deals.

Let KP and Luka get another year under their belts and then go big in 21 free agency

Use any cap this season on one year deals even if we must overpay. We must add talent even if they're one years deals. It's not a good look for players to know the team is just standing pat and not making improvements in hopes to lure a big free agent in the future.

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[Pinkyring]

Im just at a loss as to why people want to punt this summers chance to add talent via the mle for a free agent prayer.