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Post#121 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 5, 2023 10:20 pm

The Christian Wood extension dragging this long means Nico didnt want Wood extended to begin with.

He's most likely looking for trade partners for another defensive big man. Gotta add picks. Might as well go all in now. Cant half ass it now that you got Luka and Kyrie.
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Post#122 » by dirkules_41 » Sun Feb 5, 2023 10:23 pm

Maverick41 wrote:I understand why you do the trade but just sad to see DFS go. He was one of those guys that I thought would be Mav for life.

He seems like a lovely guy and I hope he can make it work with seeing his horse and all. BUT on court I was really not a fan of this years version of him. Less hustle, less shooting and more mistakes.
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Post#123 » by kacey ring » Sun Feb 5, 2023 10:26 pm

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Absinthe wrote:
I’m curious to see if Dallas can move Bertans or THJ. If they can move Bertans contract to Utah, for example, and attach a first round pick to get them to take on his salary to agree, does Dallas do that? They might as well go all in.



Not a lot of quality bigs in the market right now. Nurkic can be had, Jakob Poetl is a free agent. In the lines of those. Nothing fancy.

I was looking at the Centers that might be available. This is what I came up with:

Mason Plumlee
Mo Bamba
Clint Capela
Jakob Poeltl

I’m unsure about Capela’s availability but he would be ideal (playing next to Wood). I agree nothing fancy but very serviceable.


I was hoping Mavs would’ve signed Bamba this past summer, but Kidd and company were fixated on McGee and his championship experience.

Mo can hit threes pretty decent for a big guy too.
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Post#124 » by Maverick41 » Sun Feb 5, 2023 10:31 pm

dirkules_41 wrote:He seems like a lovely guy and I hope he can make it work with seeing his horse and all. BUT on court I was really not a fan of this years version of him. Less hustle, less shooting and more mistakes.

Yeah I don't disagree. I think early in the season he was definitely coasting but last 10 games or so his motor has definitely kicked back in. Hopefully Nico and Cuban find a way to somehow to replace his position. Personally I do not think Green has enough size to fill that gap.
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Post#125 » by dirkules_41 » Sun Feb 5, 2023 10:33 pm

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dirkules_41 wrote:He seems like a lovely guy and I hope he can make it work with seeing his horse and all. BUT on court I was really not a fan of this years version of him. Less hustle, less shooting and more mistakes.

Yeah I don't disagree. I think early in the season he was definitely coasting but last 10 games or so his motor has definitely kicked back in. Hopefully Nico and Cuban find a way to somehow to replace his position. Personally I do not think Green has enough size to fill that gap.

At the 3 he absolutely does. I did like DFS at the 3 more but he's become a 4 for us really and I think he just isn't built to be one.
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Post#126 » by Darthlukey » Sun Feb 5, 2023 10:34 pm

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This MUST come with an immediate extension for him surely. Also I hope we have a great Psychiatric department. Talent wise it hurts to lose Spence imo but obviously what Kyrie can do on court is unquestionable and not giving up Wood is massive.

Edit: Looks like Markieff Morris part of the deal too.

Howdy Mavs fans. I think management took a huge gamble, but I think its one they needed to take. Since you guys are out west, best of luck, West is up for grabs!
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Post#127 » by Revived » Sun Feb 5, 2023 10:36 pm

kacey ring wrote:
Mr B wrote:
arkuo wrote:

Not a lot of quality bigs in the market right now. Nurkic can be had, Jakob Poetl is a free agent. In the lines of those. Nothing fancy.

I was looking at the Centers that might be available. This is what I came up with:

Mason Plumlee
Mo Bamba
Clint Capela
Jakob Poeltl

I’m unsure about Capela’s availability but he would be ideal (playing next to Wood). I agree nothing fancy but very serviceable.


I was hoping Mavs would’ve signed Bamba this past summer, but Kidd and company were fixated on McGee and his championship experience.

Mo can hit threes pretty decent for a big guy too.

It is strange they were so fixated with McGee after exposing him and playing him off the court in the playoffs.

Reminds me of Lakers trading for Westbrook after exposing him and leaving him wide open in the playoffs the yr they won the title.
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Post#128 » by Forbes » Sun Feb 5, 2023 10:40 pm

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SkyBill40 wrote:Nash was already MVP caliber and showed that while in DAL. Had Cuban decided to pay him accordingly, he would have stayed and you would have reaped the rewards of it.

Finley was an outstanding all around player. All NBA is overrated. It's a team sport and how those players work together. While having some really dominant individual talent is key, having it and getting nowhere doesn't mean much.

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There is no way you thought Steve Nash was MVP caliber before he left the Mavs. Steve Nash was a great player but no one thought of him as MVP and he was my second fav player on the Mavs. I was pissed he left. I won’t even get into Finley inconsistencies.

I understand you are trying to make a point. But they were NOT on the talent level of Kyrie Irving. Let’s not do this. We never had a player like Kyrie on the Mavs come in as a second fiddle.


Bro this is the Mavs board, I’m pretty sure we all know the truth lol
The talent between Irving and Nash is different. Irving is an undersized SG and a fantastic scorer and individual ballhandler; Nash is a supremely better shooter and all around decision maker as a true PG. Talent is talent and you have it or you don't. If you wish to slice it differently, well, I guess that's your pie to cut but it still tastes the same.

And I'm aware this is the Mavs board. Good luck with Irving as you'll likely need it. And I sure hope he doesn't bolt on you for the Lakers as he very well could. Then again, if he did, you might get addition by subtraction.



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I agree it is different but NO ONE that watches basketball said Nash was a top 15 player before he left the Mavs is my main point in this. That’s why I’m excited to see Kyrie. We have two player that are Atleast top 15 in the league and and definitely Top 10in ability to scorer. If it doesn’t work we are gaining max cap space early so it’s a win win regardless.

I actually do expect him to leave for the lakers. But I’ll for sure enjoy watching Luka play with some talent for once.
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Post#129 » by Revived » Sun Feb 5, 2023 10:41 pm

Mr B wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Absinthe wrote:
I’m curious to see if Dallas can move Bertans or THJ. If they can move Bertans contract to Utah, for example, and attach a first round pick to get them to take on his salary to agree, does Dallas do that? They might as well go all in.



Not a lot of quality bigs in the market right now. Nurkic can be had, Jakob Poetl is a free agent. In the lines of those. Nothing fancy.

I was looking at the Centers that might be available. This is what I came up with:

Mason Plumlee
Mo Bamba
Clint Capela
Jakob Poeltl

I’m unsure about Capela’s availability but he would be ideal (playing next to Wood). I agree nothing fancy but very serviceable.

I think DeAndre Ayton is also available, Phoenix hasn’t skipped a beat in the games he missed and had Biyombo playing solid in his mins.
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Post#130 » by Revived » Sun Feb 5, 2023 10:46 pm

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arkuo wrote:If GSW doesnt have money to re-sign Draymond Green, Mavs need to go with that direction for defense.

Kyrie, Green and Morris... are you building a basketball team or an asylum?



The crazier the better, my friend. :lol:

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Post#131 » by Mr B » Sun Feb 5, 2023 10:47 pm

Revived wrote:
Mr B wrote:
arkuo wrote:

Not a lot of quality bigs in the market right now. Nurkic can be had, Jakob Poetl is a free agent. In the lines of those. Nothing fancy.

I was looking at the Centers that might be available. This is what I came up with:

Mason Plumlee
Mo Bamba
Clint Capela
Jakob Poeltl

I’m unsure about Capela’s availability but he would be ideal (playing next to Wood). I agree nothing fancy but very serviceable.

I think DeAndre Ayton is also available, Phoenix hasn’t skipped a beat in the games he missed and had Biyombo playing solid in his mins.

I just don’t see the Suns trading him to the Mavs.
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Post#132 » by Revived » Sun Feb 5, 2023 10:52 pm

arkuo wrote:A hungry Kyrie Irving who is trying to prove everyone wrong is a very scary proposition for the playoffs.

You don't want to be on the other end guarding him. He'll show you what 27 PPG looks like.

This is true but how much will he give up on the other end?

People complained about Din’s defense all the time but I think Kyrie is even worse.
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Post#133 » by Maverick41 » Sun Feb 5, 2023 10:53 pm

Imo if we intend to make Wood work, the goal shouldn't be to get another 5 when Wood's best position on both ends is at the 5. Get an athletic 4 that can switch well on D, provide a little shot blocking and can rebound. Vanderbilt would be my target.
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Post#134 » by Mr B » Sun Feb 5, 2023 10:53 pm

Revived wrote:
Mr B wrote:
arkuo wrote:

Not a lot of quality bigs in the market right now. Nurkic can be had, Jakob Poetl is a free agent. In the lines of those. Nothing fancy.

I was looking at the Centers that might be available. This is what I came up with:

Mason Plumlee
Mo Bamba
Clint Capela
Jakob Poeltl

I’m unsure about Capela’s availability but he would be ideal (playing next to Wood). I agree nothing fancy but very serviceable.

I think DeAndre Ayton is also available, Phoenix hasn’t skipped a beat in the games he missed and had Biyombo playing solid in his mins.

In a perfect world the Suns would trade Ayton and Crowder to the Mavs.
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Post#135 » by Revived » Sun Feb 5, 2023 10:56 pm

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Absinthe wrote:Morris helps with losing DFS. He’s not as good and is older, but it’s a decent substitute.



You're probably thinking of his brother, Kief is pretty much done for the last 3 seasons. Unless all those open looks will help him out a bit. But then again, does he still play defense?



Kief is just there as the team's muscle. That guy is a real thug off the court.

I think him and Theo are gonna get along very well.
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Post#136 » by Revived » Sun Feb 5, 2023 11:04 pm

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Archx wrote:I'm not going to defend this trade because we all know what Kyrie brings with him. And if it doesn't work out, Mavs will be eventually left with nothing.

The only good thing about this is Green finally getting more minutes and a chance to further develop. But Mavs still desperately need some rim protection and rebounding.



The absolute worst case is Kyrie walks. That means you converted Dinwiddie and DFS into expiring contracts. That's still acceptable going into a rebuild. Dallas is one team that can risk a rebuild because Luka is very young.

Well the perception is that Luka wouldn’t stick around for a rebuild, he’s already been in the league for 5 yrs he wants a contender. This is prime years of his career he’s not gonna waste that on a rebuild.

Need Kyrie re-signed asap.
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Post#137 » by Forbes » Sun Feb 5, 2023 11:13 pm

Revived wrote:
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Archx wrote:I'm not going to defend this trade because we all know what Kyrie brings with him. And if it doesn't work out, Mavs will be eventually left with nothing.

The only good thing about this is Green finally getting more minutes and a chance to further develop. But Mavs still desperately need some rim protection and rebounding.



The absolute worst case is Kyrie walks. That means you converted Dinwiddie and DFS into expiring contracts. That's still acceptable going into a rebuild. Dallas is one team that can risk a rebuild because Luka is very young.

Well the perception is that Luka wouldn’t stick around for a rebuild, he’s already been in the league for 5 yrs he wants a contender. This is prime years of his career he’s not gonna waste that on a rebuild.

Need Kyrie re-signed asap.



Kyrie doesn’t necessarily need to be Re-signed. We will have cap space to make moves and we still have picks that we can trade even if we take on another star by trade to provide relief for another team that decides to blow it up.
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Post#138 » by Ni Da Ye » Sun Feb 5, 2023 11:19 pm

This is a high risk, no return trade. Congrats.

I cannot wait to see how this nutcase going to lead us for playoffs glory like how he did in other franchises. Wait... Apparently other than one shot over Curry, nothing else.
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Post#139 » by Ni Da Ye » Sun Feb 5, 2023 11:20 pm

Can anyone tell me when we can trade this nutcase again? I would send his arse to New York for JB + multiple FRPs. That will be sweet. :D
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Post#140 » by leolozon » Sun Feb 5, 2023 11:20 pm

arkuo wrote:The Christian Wood extension dragging this long means Nico didnt want Wood extended to begin with.

He's most likely looking for trade partners for another defensive big man. Gotta add picks. Might as well go all in now. Cant half ass it now that you got Luka and Kyrie.


Why give up a 1st for him then?

He did exactly what was expected of him.

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