RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Kings II (Sat, 10PM EST)

[arkuo]

Luka looked gassed in some of the possessions. He'll think twice about that 3rd slice of pizza now.

[arkuo]

Luka just needs to figure out what to do off ball now. It will take a lot of ego swallowing but I think he should be okay. He said during his post game interview that it was his fault and that he should have given the ball to Kyrie in the 4th as Kyrie was the one with the hot hand at the time.

You can see some possessions where Luka is standing 45 feet out not really knowing what to do while others run to their spots. Surely you don't plan on shooting a 45 footer being 2 of 9 from three point range. Kidd needs to be creative here. Allow him to be a screener and a roller on some plays.

[Archx]

Luka just needs to figure out what to do off ball now. It will take a lot of ego swallowing but I think he should be okay. He said during his post game interview that it was his fault and that he should have given the ball to Kyrie in the 4th as Kyrie was the one with the hot hand at the time.

You can see some possessions where Luka is standing 45 feet out not really knowing what to do while others run to their spots. Surely you don't plan on shooting a 45 footer being 2 of 9 from three point range. Kidd needs to be creative here. Allow him to be a screener and a roller on some plays.

Your overrecations in this thread are legendary mate

Wait a couple of games before the sky starts falling down. Even Lebron took some time to fully gel with Wade and Bosh.

[arkuo]

Luka just needs to figure out what to do off ball now. It will take a lot of ego swallowing but I think he should be okay. He said during his post game interview that it was his fault and that he should have given the ball to Kyrie in the 4th as Kyrie was the one with the hot hand at the time.

You can see some possessions where Luka is standing 45 feet out not really knowing what to do while others run to their spots. Surely you don't plan on shooting a 45 footer being 2 of 9 from three point range. Kidd needs to be creative here. Allow him to be a screener and a roller on some plays.

Your overrecations in this thread are legendary mate

Wait a couple of games before the sky starts falling down. Even Lebron took some time to fully gel with Wade and Bosh.

I said a few posts up that I'm charging this one to rust, so no, the sky isn't falling.

It's not an overreaction if Luka admitted in his post game interview that it was his fault. If he didn't admit to it, then yes we can view this as an overreaction. But since it came from his mouth, then this post is simply just a reaction to that. Nothing "over" about it if it came from him, yeah?

[arkuo]

Offensively the Mavs should be fine. 116 offensive rating I think. That should be okay.

The problem is still on the defensive end. when you have THJ and Powell in the starting lineup, you have those two plus Kyrie and Luka playing matador defense. with Green being the only guy who plays D. I think this is where the problem will be long term, which is why for a team that already has Luka and Kyrie, someone like THJ cant have a place there. It was to be a two way wing.

If there is a way to squeeze a bit of defense from Jaden Hardy, I think that's your THJ replacement in a year or two. Guys like Joe Harris and Mitchell Robinson have been seeing a lot of bench time because they cant play defense. THJ is in the same mold and he gets heavy minutes. I think the pattern is the same.

[Apz]

Been thinking afterthe game why i felt so bad loosing it. I think one thing is that im so used to kings being useless, but this year they are good but my brain havent adjusted.

Overall a decent game. Still would want wood more, he is imo just amazing.

[41Dirk41]

Been thinking afterthe game why i felt so bad loosing it. I think one thing is that im so used to kings being useless, but this year they are good but my brain havent adjusted.

Overall a decent game. Still would want wood more, he is imo just amazing.

I really don't understand the Wood situation... He is a walking bucket, he can scores in every way.
Plus he is a decent rebounder, decent passer, decent blockers and good pnr &pnp partner.

Probably Kidd only doesn't see him because the other bigs are Powell and McGee, not Kareem or Shaq.

[Mavrelous]

Rewatching the game, most of the TOs were as a result of playing faster than usual for Luka, it'll either come to him or they'll slow the pace, especially with Kyrie on the bench.
I understand being down after OT loss, but it really wasn't that bad.

[arkuo]

Rewatching the game, most of the TOs were as a result of playing faster than usual for Luka, it'll either come to him or they'll slow the pace, especially with Kyrie on the bench.
I understand being down after OT loss, but it really wasn't that bad.

Yeah wasnt too bad. I think they'd have to split it in quarters like Kobe and Shaq. Have Luka cook in the 1st and have Kyrie cook in thr 4th.

Or do what Jalen Rose said, Luka works best on the left side of the floor. Kyrie works best on the right side of the floor. They can split it that way.

The only challenge I can see something mentioned before that Luka shoots a low percentage of threes if it happens to be a catch and shoot scenario instead of a rythym three that includes all his dribbles with a step back. Some players just play more on rythym

[arkuo]

Another thing to note: DeAaron Fox had 10 points entering the 4th quarter. He ended the game with like 34 or 32. That's a defense problem. The guy was running circles on everyone including Dwight Powell who is your last line of defense.

[SOUNDCHASER]

Luka is not going to suck once he gets back in the groove and back to work fully. I am okay with him taking a game to get adjusted but he needs to adjust by next game so we can work on getting the team in gear and winning at a higher % there are 24 games left and we need to win at a 700 or 800 winning percentage so we can demonstrate we are prepared.

Our defense is sucking because Kidd is trying lineups with guys that are not defenders and benching the guys who can defend.

Max needs to come back soon and we need Green out there with Wood, Luka, and Kyrie. Then McGee needs to be the 1st big off the bench not Powell.

You cannot guard the rim when you play small ball and have a PF instead of a center at the 5 with 4 non bigs on the court.

You must perform and outscore the other team immediately to put them in a hole we did not do that and so SAC got up on us and they took advantage of us not playing defense and kept pace with our offense which was not clicking because it was Lukas first game back.

Kidd **** up this game trying to play a strategy that was doomed to failure the second he tried it.

If we had played Green Luka and Kyrie with Wood and McGee then that would have allowed us to defend and score and get the game under control but you live and you learn.

[Dmagic]

YOU CAN SEE it was the kyrie show in crunch time- who gave him the green light. it didnt work. luka was basically watching on the sidelines as kyrie ego tried to take over and win the game. just my opinion. hopefully they work together going forward. they will have to as it was already said. get more creative. what really needs to happen is kyrie not try to out-ego everybody including luka. bc thats what he does. thats what he did when harden came over to the nets and was balling. kyrie literally tried to rain on his parade and look where it got them all

[Dirk]

Well he just put up a quick 13 points and only left Lyles wide open for a three once. I'll take it.

We all want Wood to succeed. He's really gifted offensively but he gives it all back. Just need more of the little things.

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Does he really give it all back? Do you have some stats for it or it's just eye test? It doesn't feel like he's been given much of a chance and it's not like the gap between him and Powell can be that big.

What confuses me is that they traded for him and immediately jerked around with him (playing off the bench, lowish minutes). I imagine they didn't trade for a part time player, but it feels like they want to treat him that way. I don't know how Wood has been able to be this efficient given how he's been handled.

[arkuo]

Theo Pinson needs to be Kyrie's full time tour guide in Dallas and his chaffeur. There's no way you play him heavy minutes. He's there to take Kyrie around town, see the spots, hit a steak house or two and give them creative high fives.

[Mavrelous]

Well he just put up a quick 13 points and only left Lyles wide open for a three once. I'll take it.

We all want Wood to succeed. He's really gifted offensively but he gives it all back. Just need more of the little things.

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Does he really give it all back? Do you have some stats for it or it's just eye test? It doesn't feel like he's been given much of a chance and it's not like the gap between him and Powell can be that big.

What confuses me is that they traded for him and immediately jerked around with him (playing off the bench, lowish minutes). I imagine they didn't trade for a part time player, but it feels like they want to treat him that way. I don't know how Wood has been able to be this efficient given how he's been handled.

It's really odd, and he's giving effort in defense, but he just gets lost, like THJ, advanced stats says Luka, Maxi, Wood and Green are great combo.
Either he's doing things off the court or Kidd is being petty.

[Dmagic]

the luka a nd kyrie reality show in kyries head must be interesting

[41Dirk41]

We all want Wood to succeed. He's really gifted offensively but he gives it all back. Just need more of the little things.

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Does he really give it all back? Do you have some stats for it or it's just eye test? It doesn't feel like he's been given much of a chance and it's not like the gap between him and Powell can be that big.

What confuses me is that they traded for him and immediately jerked around with him (playing off the bench, lowish minutes). I imagine they didn't trade for a part time player, but it feels like they want to treat him that way. I don't know how Wood has been able to be this efficient given how he's been handled.

It's really odd, and he's giving effort in defense, but he just gets lost, like THJ, advanced stats says Luka, Maxi, Wood and Green are great combo.
Either he's doing things off the court or Kidd is being petty.

It's just ridiculous in February 2023 have Powell like starting center...

[Captain_Obvious]

the luka a nd kyrie reality show in kyries head must be interesting

If you are just here to troll, maybe go to the general board

In any case say hi to my ignore list

[ejs78]

Well he just put up a quick 13 points and only left Lyles wide open for a three once. I'll take it.

We all want Wood to succeed. He's really gifted offensively but he gives it all back. Just need more of the little things.

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Does he really give it all back? Do you have some stats for it or it's just eye test? It doesn't feel like he's been given much of a chance and it's not like the gap between him and Powell can be that big.

What confuses me is that they traded for him and immediately jerked around with him (playing off the bench, lowish minutes). I imagine they didn't trade for a part time player, but it feels like they want to treat him that way. I don't know how Wood has been able to be this efficient given how he's been handled.

He gets lost on D petty easy and not to the extent of Mcgee but sometimes he'll try to block shots where he's better off not. I believe there was a sequence last night where he made a 3 then blew it on the other end and gave it right back to Lyles. Maybe when Maxi is back he'll play more to help cover one end

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[Archx]

Well he just put up a quick 13 points and only left Lyles wide open for a three once. I'll take it.

We all want Wood to succeed. He's really gifted offensively but he gives it all back. Just need more of the little things.

Sent from my SM-G960U using RealGM mobile app

Does he really give it all back? Do you have some stats for it or it's just eye test? It doesn't feel like he's been given much of a chance and it's not like the gap between him and Powell can be that big.

What confuses me is that they traded for him and immediately jerked around with him (playing off the bench, lowish minutes). I imagine they didn't trade for a part time player, but it feels like they want to treat him that way. I don't know how Wood has been able to be this efficient given how he's been handled.

All top 5 man lineup combinations feature Wood in them BUT the common guy who helps with boosting their numbers is actually THJ, who also has +7.9 On/Off.

All negative lineups, that either include Powell or Wood, in some shape or form feature DFS instead of THJ, almost all positive lineups feature Timmy instead of DFS.

If you basically put together on the floor exactly the same players and remove just 1 guy (THJ), Mavs production gets somehow worse.

And Kidd constantly juggling with lineups made Wood On/Off numbers skydive to the ground. Not long ago he was hovering around +7/+8 and now he's at -1.2. Funny thing is, in all top lineups Wood is there with THJ/Green/Luka...

I noticed some time ago that Kidd has the old school mentality when coaches usually put scrubs together on the floor with 1 star player. But in the modern NBA, you can't just throw some random people on the floor hoping it sticks and they do well. Wood did for example very bad with Dinwiddie/DFS/Bullock but he did very good with Luka/Timmy/Green.

Lineup stats and eyetest prove that Wood simply needs space to operate in. When Mavs spread the floor, Wood is the most effective and efficient.
But Kidd juggling with lineups back and forth doesn't help even Doncic. Suddenly even Pinson (-11.7 On/Off) is seeing significant minutes. And as good as Hardy has been, his On/Off are horrible -9.5 because both him and Pinson are bad defensive players.