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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Spurs (Wed, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#121 » by ejs78 » Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:54 am

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JWillTheFreak wrote:Your comparing a 12th man on the bench to a legit starting big...
What I'm comparing is this board likes bright new shiny objects. I can't stand Powell just like eveyone else, but Wood isn't the answer either. The whole frontcourt is flawed.

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Wood been solid all year long... only person who limit his impact was kidd because he limited his minutes in favor of lesser players. I don't think he is the answer long term because we need rim protector with luka and kyrie out there but right now the only way we win is by outscoring the opponents.
He's been solid on the offensive end this year. I do agree in a game like this or vs Memphis he could have been used more, but when Luka and Irving are back I'm fine with 20 to 30 min depending on what he's doing.

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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Spurs (Wed, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#122 » by Mavrelous » Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:07 am

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I take those fouls if he puts up almost 30 and 15!!!

Exactly, as I've said all year - still leaps and bounds above anyone else we have at the 4 and 5.
This is the same fanbase that told people Moses Brown was legit...

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Your shoulder must be sore after this reach, we were on the board too last year...
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Spurs (Wed, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#123 » by 41Dirk41 » Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:12 am

ejs78 wrote:
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ejs78 wrote:What I'm comparing is this board likes bright new shiny objects. I can't stand Powell just like eveyone else, but Wood isn't the answer either. The whole frontcourt is flawed.

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Wood been solid all year long... only person who limit his impact was kidd because he limited his minutes in favor of lesser players. I don't think he is the answer long term because we need rim protector with luka and kyrie out there but right now the only way we win is by outscoring the opponents.
He's been solid on the offensive end this year. I do agree in a game like this or vs Memphis he could have been used more, but when Luka and Irving are back I'm fine with 20 to 30 min depending on what he's doing.

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I'm agree with your point of view, Wood isn't the answer for our problem at the C.

He has low BBQI, tonight he made some very dumb mistakes. That's for sure.

But he had not the opportunity to build a chemistry with Luka (Irving played here only a bunch of games), I would have preferred see him too much time on the floor with Luka and other starters to know if he can overcome his limits and be a piece of a winning team.
It probably would have cost us to lose a few games. I know.

Mostly because the starter was Powell, he bringed us nothing mostly games of the season.

Kidd never trusted Wood and he never gave him a chance. That's the problem.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Spurs (Wed, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#124 » by ejs78 » Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:12 am

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dirkules_41 wrote:Exactly, as I've said all year - still leaps and bounds above anyone else we have at the 4 and 5.
This is the same fanbase that told people Moses Brown was legit...

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Your shoulder must be sore after this reach, we were on the board too last year...
Its just a fact.

Every time this team gets a new big they become Kareem.

Wood and Powell both had a good game but the common factor was the Spurs.

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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Spurs (Wed, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#125 » by Mavrelous » Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:15 am

It's patently false no one on here thought Brown was anything special, and most here recognize Wood shortcmings, the actual fact is, he deserves more PT than he gets, and he's benched purely because of personal vendetta from a failed head coach who pursued an unplayable big and promised him a startinv role
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Spurs (Wed, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#126 » by 41Dirk41 » Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:39 am

Ni Da Ye wrote:After this win, there's no doubt the sky is the limit and we are going to win the championship.

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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Spurs (Wed, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#127 » by arkuo » Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:33 am

A team with Luka + four Maxi Klebers playing 3&D will not get you far.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Spurs (Wed, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#128 » by dirkules_41 » Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:40 am

Wood isn't the next AD, which is why he can be had for non-AD money. He's still a very valuable part of a winning team if your coach isn't a complete moron who can't even draw up inbound plays and thinks Dwight Powell is the next Dikembe Mutombo.

What pisses me off is not utilising our assets to the best of their abilities. Wood has some shortcomings but overall he's a significant asset and valuable addition to the team. Something that can't really be said about anyone else we have at the 4 and 5.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Spurs (Wed, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#129 » by Bob8 » Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:18 am

How much better is watching these games in the morning, you can just fwd the most difficult parts to watch. :D

What an important win this was. Game against Lakers count double, they **** resting Davis yesterday, but he will be difficult to stop by the Mavs. Let's see if Mavs decide to play Luka/Kyrie in the most important game of all remaining games.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Spurs (Wed, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#130 » by Bob8 » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:57 am

It looks to me that Kleber's inbound pass was designed by coaching staff, he has never looked anywhere else.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Spurs (Wed, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#131 » by XTraderXL » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:59 am

"Dallas can not win without Luka"

Since Kyrie came they won more games without him than with him LOL
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Spurs (Wed, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#132 » by Mavrelous » Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:16 am

XTraderXL wrote:"Dallas can not win without Luka"

Since Kyrie came they won more games without him than with him LOL

This is not the game to support you thesis. :lol:
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Post#133 » by XTraderXL » Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:39 am

Mavrelous wrote:
XTraderXL wrote:"Dallas can not win without Luka"

Since Kyrie came they won more games without him than with him LOL

This is not the game to support you thesis. :lol:



They had more wins without Luka even before this game.

Besides, I am not saying they are better without him. What I am saying is they would be better if you add the return they could have gotten if they traded him. I am 100% sure of that. It would be extremely hard not to be better than a .50 team.
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Post#134 » by Bob8 » Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:46 am

XTraderXL wrote:"Dallas can not win without Luka"

Since Kyrie came they won more games without him than with him LOL


By your logic they don't need Kyrie either, because they have won 2 games without him (and Luka) too. They should trade both and build team around Hardy and Green.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Spurs (Wed, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#135 » by Bob8 » Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:49 am

XTraderXL wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
XTraderXL wrote:"Dallas can not win without Luka"

Since Kyrie came they won more games without him than with him LOL

This is not the game to support you thesis. :lol:



They had more wins without Luka even before this game.

Besides, I am not saying they are better without him. What I am saying is they would be better if you add the return they could have gotten if they traded him. I am 100% sure of that. It would be extremely hard not to be better than a .50 team.


You're forgetting that Mavs were in WCF last year, I kinda doubt they can better that with bunch of average starters.
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Post#136 » by XTraderXL » Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:32 pm

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Mavrelous wrote:This is not the game to support you thesis. :lol:



They had more wins without Luka even before this game.

Besides, I am not saying they are better without him. What I am saying is they would be better if you add the return they could have gotten if they traded him. I am 100% sure of that. It would be extremely hard not to be better than a .50 team.


You're forgetting that Mavs were in WCF last year, I kinda doubt they can better that with bunch of average starters.


Are you going to be bringing up that overachievement for the next 10 years when Luka will keep getting eliminated in 1st or 2nd round? Trae was in ECF 2 years ago and they didnt get destroyed like by the Bucks (who won the C) like Dallas did by the Warriors last season. Does that prove that Trae can lead the team to the championship? If so, trade Luka for Trae and a couple other pieces.
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Post#137 » by Bob8 » Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:47 pm

XTraderXL wrote:
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XTraderXL wrote:

They had more wins without Luka even before this game.

Besides, I am not saying they are better without him. What I am saying is they would be better if you add the return they could have gotten if they traded him. I am 100% sure of that. It would be extremely hard not to be better than a .50 team.


You're forgetting that Mavs were in WCF last year, I kinda doubt they can better that with bunch of average starters.


Are you going to be bringing up that overachievement for the next 10 years when Luka will keep getting eliminated in 1st or 2nd round? Trae was in ECF 2 years ago and they didnt get destroyed like by the Bucks (who won the C) like Dallas did by the Warriors last season. Does that prove that Trae can lead the team to the championship? If so, trade Luka for Trae and a couple other pieces.


I'm talking about last playoffs, we don't know what happens this year. You're talking about last 10 Luka's games, because before the trade Mavs were over 0.5 and 0 wins without Luka. Which segment is more representative to you?
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Spurs (Wed, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#138 » by XTraderXL » Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:59 pm

Bob8 wrote:
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Bob8 wrote:
You're forgetting that Mavs were in WCF last year, I kinda doubt they can better that with bunch of average starters.


Are you going to be bringing up that overachievement for the next 10 years when Luka will keep getting eliminated in 1st or 2nd round? Trae was in ECF 2 years ago and they didnt get destroyed like by the Bucks (who won the C) like Dallas did by the Warriors last season. Does that prove that Trae can lead the team to the championship? If so, trade Luka for Trae and a couple other pieces.


I'm talking about last playoffs, we don't know what happens this year. You're talking about last 10 Luka's games, because before the trade Mavs were over 0.5 and 0 wins without Luka. Which segment is more representative to you?


You just cant seem to understand what I am saying. Its fine, time will tell who was right. I just hope you will admit I was right all along :D
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Spurs (Wed, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#139 » by Ni Da Ye » Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:08 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
Ni Da Ye wrote:After this win, there's no doubt the sky is the limit and we are going to win the championship.

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I immagine how smart is watch your favourite basketball team and hope for a L :thumbsup:



Not a smart speculation coz no one remotely does that here.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Spurs (Wed, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#140 » by Bob8 » Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:10 pm

XTraderXL wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
XTraderXL wrote:
Are you going to be bringing up that overachievement for the next 10 years when Luka will keep getting eliminated in 1st or 2nd round? Trae was in ECF 2 years ago and they didnt get destroyed like by the Bucks (who won the C) like Dallas did by the Warriors last season. Does that prove that Trae can lead the team to the championship? If so, trade Luka for Trae and a couple other pieces.


I'm talking about last playoffs, we don't know what happens this year. You're talking about last 10 Luka's games, because before the trade Mavs were over 0.5 and 0 wins without Luka. Which segment is more representative to you?


You just cant seem to understand what I am saying. Its fine, time will tell who was right. I just hope you will admit I was right all along :D


I understand very well what you're saying. My problem is with data you're making conclusions on. 10 games is just too small sample size to make any kind of conclusion.

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