Mavericks - 2023 Preseason (G4. Oct. 20 vs Pistons 7p.m CST)

[Bob8]

Kidd has a decision to make with Lively over Powell. If Lively doesnt score a single point and just focuses on defense, does he make a case to start on the season opener? Because the drop off from Lively to Powell.is huge on the defensive end. Powell gives up a lot of open shots. But Lively cant screen and rim run like Powell yet athis early in his career. I think Kidd has to make a decision there.

And where could we see that great D from Lively? The worst D in the whole match was in Q1, where all 3 defensive specialist played.

[Bob8]

Based on one exhibition game, i think Josh Green starts over Prosper. Then I think kidd starts Powell over Lively. I'd hate it but i think that's how it plays out unless Holmes balls the **** out in training camp.

Sadly, youre right and its the reason that I hate Nico Harrison so much. Seriously how hard is it to bring in even an average C to pair with Luka and Kyrie? Some teams have 2-3 and we cant even get a single one.

They didn't want Ayton, who was almost for free.

[arkuo]

Kidd has a decision to make with Lively over Powell. If Lively doesnt score a single point and just focuses on defense, does he make a case to start on the season opener? Because the drop off from Lively to Powell.is huge on the defensive end. Powell gives up a lot of open shots. But Lively cant screen and rim run like Powell yet athis early in his career. I think Kidd has to make a decision there.

And where could we see that great D from Lively? The worst D in the whole match was in Q1, where all 3 defensive specialist played.

You can own a vacation house in Croatia but cant seem to have reading comprehension.

I wrote a whole paragraph but I didnt mention Lively playing great D. I just said better than Powell which means the bar was set low d.u.m.b.a.s.s. Any one of the other big men can play better D than Powell. But no one stands more than 7 feet except Lively.

[tleikheen]

These guys are just out on holiday. Riding camels and posing for photos and ****. It's an NBA promotional tour.

Lame statement ...... players dont wait all summer to play like theyre on vacation their 1st game back against another playoff contending team ,if they did theyre going to be a joke all year.

[Archx]

Powell sure looked good today. 5 points on 2 for 4 shooting. 2 steals. 1 block. Plus (minus) of 0 in 15:47.

You forgot to add, one missed completely open layup and one hit in the face. Early 6th man of the year candidate for sure.

[arkuo]

These guys are just out on holiday. Riding camels and posing for photos and ****. It's an NBA promotional tour.

Lame statement ...... players dont wait all summer to play like theyre on vacation their 1st game back against another playoff contending team ,if they did theyre going to be a joke all year.

Clearly Jason Kidd was trying his best to win this game by benching Luka and Kyrie for the 2nd half and the players joking around on the bench, and starting Markeif Morris at center for the 2nd half.

We keep forgetting that they're up against the undisputed Minnesota play-in champs. Dallas better take it seriously then.

[dirkforpres]

Based on one exhibition game, i think Josh Green starts over Prosper. Then I think kidd starts Powell over Lively. I'd hate it but i think that's how it plays out unless Holmes balls the **** out in training camp.

Sadly, youre right and its the reason that I hate Nico Harrison so much. Seriously how hard is it to bring in even an average C to pair with Luka and Kyrie? Some teams have 2-3 and we cant even get a single one.

They didn't want Ayton, who was almost for free.

Exactly.

Ayton, Zubac, Valanciunas, Washington, Capela, and probably countless others that im forgetting were all available at some point this summer and yet somehow we are stuck with the Kleber & Powell C rotation for the 7th year in a row... As if we havent been getting annihilated on rebounds and in the paint ever since 2011. Nico really is the worst.

[arkuo]

Sadly, youre right and its the reason that I hate Nico Harrison so much. Seriously how hard is it to bring in even an average C to pair with Luka and Kyrie? Some teams have 2-3 and we cant even get a single one.

They didn't want Ayton, who was almost for free.

Exactly.

Ayton, Zubac, Valanciunas, Washington, Capela, and probably countless others that im forgetting were all available at some point this summer and yet somehow we are stuck with the Kleber & Powell C rotation for the 7th year in a row... As if we havent been getting annihilated on rebounds and in the paint ever since 2011. Nico really is the worst.

Well one thing they were able to do is to confirm that THJ has no value at all. They need to actually pay someone to take in THJ.

[Bob8]

Kidd has a decision to make with Lively over Powell. If Lively doesnt score a single point and just focuses on defense, does he make a case to start on the season opener? Because the drop off from Lively to Powell.is huge on the defensive end. Powell gives up a lot of open shots. But Lively cant screen and rim run like Powell yet athis early in his career. I think Kidd has to make a decision there.

And where could we see that great D from Lively? The worst D in the whole match was in Q1, where all 3 defensive specialist played.

You can own a vacation house in Croatia but cant seem to have reading comprehension.

I wrote a whole paragraph but I didnt mention Lively playing great D. I just said better than Powell which means the bar was set low d.u.m.b.a.s.s. Any one of the other big men can play better D than Powell. But no one stands more than 7 feet except Lively.

Ok then, you mentioned huge drop. Where could we see that huge drop?

[arkuo]

And where could we see that great D from Lively? The worst D in the whole match was in Q1, where all 3 defensive specialist played.

You can own a vacation house in Croatia but cant seem to have reading comprehension.

I wrote a whole paragraph but I didnt mention Lively playing great D. I just said better than Powell which means the bar was set low d.u.m.b.a.s.s. Any one of the other big men can play better D than Powell. But no one stands more than 7 feet except Lively.

Ok then, you mentioned huge drop. Where could we see that huge drop?

Powell would create layup lines the same way he did for the past 5 years. Would you bet your vacation house on Powell playing D on Wembanyama on game 1? I could play better defense than Powell.

Who did you want to play center, Mike Tobey? LOL

[BliscoSantos]

If Lively is not ready Holmes has to be the starter...I Don't care if Powell is taller,he has T-rex arms and is a bad rebounder..Holmes is a better rebounder,better O Player and can help the team more...Powell's only constant is getting hit in the face once a game

[arkuo]

If Lively is not ready Holmes has to be the starter...I Don't care if Powell is taller,he has T-rex arms and is a bad rebounder..Holmes is a better rebounder,better O Player and can help the team more...Powell's only constant is getting hit in the face once a game

I would start Holmes too. But im just predicting Kidd's moves and i dont think he will start Holmes. It looks like it's down to Lively or Powell IMO.

[BliscoSantos]

If Lively is not ready Holmes has to be the starter...I Don't care if Powell is taller,he has T-rex arms and is a bad rebounder..Holmes is a better rebounder,better O Player and can help the team more...Powell's only constant is getting hit in the face once a game

I would start Holmes too. But im just predicting Kidd's moves and i dont think he will start Holmes. It looks like it's down to Lively or Powell IMO.

Then Kidd needs to go

[arkuo]

If Luka keeps this up ang averages 25-8-8, and Kyrie clicks with Grant Williams shooting 42% from 3, that will probably be good for 32 wins in the regular season.

[dirkforpres]

If Luka keeps this up ang averages 25-8-8, and Kyrie clicks with Grant Williams shooting 42% from 3, that will probably be good for 32 wins in the regular season.

This team only goes as far as the C position takes us. If we continue to let the other team dominate the paint and have a layup line to the rim on defense, we will be back in the lottery again for sure. If I were Nico, I would be calling Atlanta's GM immediately and getting the Hardaway-Capela swap done ASAP, even if it means adding a FRP swap, some 2nds, etc.

Lively showed hes not ready and Holmes isnt trustworthy enough to handle 30 min a night. Something needs to be done, and the earlier the better.

[41Dirk41]

Kidd has a decision to make with Lively over Powell. If Lively doesnt score a single point and just focuses on defense, does he make a case to start on the season opener? Because the drop off from Lively to Powell.is huge on the defensive end. Powell gives up a lot of open shots. But Lively cant screen and rim run like Powell yet athis early in his career. I think Kidd has to make a decision there.

Holmes is better than both, the decisione is pretty simple.
Btw Holmes is a good backup C, not a PO starter.

But they didn't want Ayton for peanuts. Take it guys.

Holmes is closer to 6'8. Lively is 7'1. So i think it will be between Lively and Powell. Powell gives up a layup line playing zero defense. So im inclined to start Lively even if he is raw. The trade off is he will or might get into early foul trouble if he is not careful. There is no upside starting Powell. Maybe for screens and rim runs. But that is if Kidd values offense over defense. Kyrie and Luka will provide more than enough offense to open the 1st quarter which makes me think starting Lively is a better option even if he's raw.

Powell is 6'9/6'10 with T-Rex arms and 0 basketball skills plus he can't rebound.

If Kidd continues to this **** he can go right now and makes another team worse.

[41Dirk41]

If Luka keeps this up ang averages 25-8-8, and Kyrie clicks with Grant Williams shooting 42% from 3, that will probably be good for 32 wins in the regular season.

This team only goes as far as the C position takes us. If we continue to let the other team dominate the paint and have a layup line to the rim on defense, we will be back in the lottery again for sure. If I were Nico, I would be calling Atlanta's GM immediately and getting the Hardaway-Capela swap done ASAP, even if it means adding a FRP swap, some 2nds, etc.

Lively showed hes not ready and Holmes isnt trustworthy enough to handle 30 min a night. Something needs to be done, and the earlier the better.

The easy move was there (Ayton), now they will make a desperate one soon because our FO is so bad and didn't understand how bad was our C rotation before this game.

They thinked Lively can contribute from day 1,.they thinked Powell is a NBA player and Maxi can play 30minutes a night. Fool's Gold. Like every **** year.

[dirkforpres]

If Luka keeps this up ang averages 25-8-8, and Kyrie clicks with Grant Williams shooting 42% from 3, that will probably be good for 32 wins in the regular season.

This team only goes as far as the C position takes us. If we continue to let the other team dominate the paint and have a layup line to the rim on defense, we will be back in the lottery again for sure. If I were Nico, I would be calling Atlanta's GM immediately and getting the Hardaway-Capela swap done ASAP, even if it means adding a FRP swap, some 2nds, etc.

Lively showed hes not ready and Holmes isnt trustworthy enough to handle 30 min a night. Something needs to be done, and the earlier the better.

The easy move was there (Ayton), now they will make a desperate one soon because our FO is so bad and didn't understand how bad was our C rotation before this game.

They think Lively can contribute from day 1,.they think Powell is a NBA player and Maxi can play 30minutes a night. Fool's Gold. Like every **** year.

Agree completely. I wanted Ayton bad and there was obviously a deal that couldve/shouldve been made. People defend Nico like crazy on here, but the fact of the matter is that if today's game was any indication, we have gotten worse and worse each of the last 3 years and someone needs to answer for it. Whether that be Kidd, Nico, or both... Someone needs to come up with answers.

[BliscoSantos]

Towns had 20, Reid had 16, Garza 12 and Gobert 9 Pointa... thats's 57 Points from big men and I'm not counting Mcdaniels as a big...how many Points did the Mavs big men score??we know how many they failed to prevent

[Bob8]

You can own a vacation house in Croatia but cant seem to have reading comprehension.

I wrote a whole paragraph but I didnt mention Lively playing great D. I just said better than Powell which means the bar was set low d.u.m.b.a.s.s. Any one of the other big men can play better D than Powell. But no one stands more than 7 feet except Lively.

Ok then, you mentioned huge drop. Where could we see that huge drop?

Powell would create layup lines the same way he did for the past 5 years. Would you bet your vacation house on Powell playing D on Wembanyama on game 1? I could play better defense than Powell.

Who did you want to play center, Mike Tobey? LOL

Huge drop implies that Lively would have been a lot better, so I ask you again, where could we seen that defensive present by Lively?

Today's first Q was the worst defensive Q and the worst offensive Q, I wonder why?

Kyrie - 73 netrtg, O-Max - 50, Lively -40, Luka - 33, Williams - 25.

I believe a little bit of realism is needed regarding our rookies. It's absolutely not their fault, but O-Max should play in G-league and Lively get 10-15 minutes max.