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RS 24/25 - Mavs @ Hornets (Jan 20, 12PM EST)

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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs @ Hornets (Jan 20, 12PM EST) 

Post#121 » by joesha1698 » Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:50 pm

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Archx wrote:Mavs reddit…

Eh I don’t like it there right now, they still defend Kidd and make all kinds of excuses for him, he is not responsible for anything. Every comment critizing Kidd gets downvoted lol.
I think until a wider spectre of (casual) fans start realizing Kidd is bad and start asking for his head, Kidd will be in no danger of losing his job.



Luke's been out half the season
Kyrie has been injured
Guys got suspended and missed games (guys have been sick)
Lively hurt
got cheated a game
Exum whole year
German dude makes 11 million..always forget his name...always hurt.

you can't put this all on Kidd...even if you wanted to fire him (lets say for not finding a way to win and being inflexible) who you gonna replace him with? You think you can just implement a new system in the middle of the season? He's going to be here until the end of the year and possibly next year with all these injuries...in the mean time the front office need to think about getting better and upgrading our weak spots.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs @ Hornets (Jan 20, 12PM EST) 

Post#122 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:01 pm

joesha1698 wrote:I think Kidd is a brilliant mind. I think he was fired in MIL for coaching too hard and changed his style up to player friendly. I also think he was brought in to play a style that appeases Luka's game, which is iso and pick and roll. A lot of people are blaming Kidd but they won't admit that this heavy iso style of play is for Luka. I do think Kidd deserves some blame for not being flexible.


...so at the end of the day it's all Luka fault...

Bob is right, Nico please trade him so 99% of Mavs problems are gone.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs @ Hornets (Jan 20, 12PM EST) 

Post#123 » by BliscoSantos » Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:07 pm

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BliscoSantos wrote:MEM is a prime example how to stay relevant despite the injuries...they are in a strong position despite playing a rookie that was drafted 39th :o ...you think Wells would Play under Kidd...or PHO with Dunn ,Ighodaro...yes they were forced to Play them because of the injuries but they didn't bench them as soon as they made mistakes....Kidd doesn't trust players that haven't proven themselves...he plays veterans despite the fact they're playing terrible and making dumb decisions...also the style of play of DAL isn't good for Young Players,developing talent....ISO after ISO while others wait in the corner :crazy: ... despite Luka injury Mavs played teams they should have beaten and somehow they still managed to lose those games....giving up to much freedom to Players can backfire and that is certainly the case with DAL...the coach needs to start taking some blame and stop with the excuses...looks like Luka,Kai,PJ, Lively,Gafford saved his ass last year...the wins didn't happen cause he's a great coach,they happened cause the team was playing different in PO...with more passion,fire, agression....and now in the regular season they think they can Just show up for some games and it's a win....we thought this team is contender and right now it looks like they are a bottom feeder....what a rude awakening

Yup they're a team I think about when I think of a team that has had the injury bug also and yet the coach has figured out how to make it work. ORL is another one. Both teams that develop their young players and create new gameplans to fit the personnel on the court rather then forcing the same exact gameplan. It's insane that this team tries to play Dinwiddie like he's Luka.

I'm still perplexed by Kidd. He was such a brilliant mind as a player. One of the most creative players ever. But as a coach, he's just so basic. I know that it works when the stars are both playing but when they're not, it's so glaring.


I think Kidd is a brilliant mind. I think he was fired in MIL for coaching too hard and changed his style up to player friendly. I also think he was brought in to play a style that appeases Luka's game, which is iso and pick and roll. A lot of people are blaming Kidd but they won't admit that this heavy iso style of play is for Luka. I do think Kidd deserves some blame for not being flexible.


My only question is ,if they play this way to make Luka happy then why do they insist on playing the same way without him?? Wouldn't his injury be the perfect chance to try something different, perhaps a more team oriented basketball(the european style/Spurs in their prime) ...that would be more suited for a team with limited talent...dude was a great Player but he can't coach....he thinks these guys are like him and Luka and will figure out the right play on their own
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs @ Hornets (Jan 20, 12PM EST) 

Post#124 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:11 pm

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joesha1698 wrote:
Maverick41 wrote:Yup they're a team I think about when I think of a team that has had the injury bug also and yet the coach has figured out how to make it work. ORL is another one. Both teams that develop their young players and create new gameplans to fit the personnel on the court rather then forcing the same exact gameplan. It's insane that this team tries to play Dinwiddie like he's Luka.

I'm still perplexed by Kidd. He was such a brilliant mind as a player. One of the most creative players ever. But as a coach, he's just so basic. I know that it works when the stars are both playing but when they're not, it's so glaring.


I think Kidd is a brilliant mind. I think he was fired in MIL for coaching too hard and changed his style up to player friendly. I also think he was brought in to play a style that appeases Luka's game, which is iso and pick and roll. A lot of people are blaming Kidd but they won't admit that this heavy iso style of play is for Luka. I do think Kidd deserves some blame for not being flexible.


My only question is ,if they play this way to make Luka happy then why do they insist on playing the same way without him?? Wouldn't his injury be the perfect chance to try something different, perhaps a more team oriented basketball(the european style/Spurs in their prime) ...that would be more suited for a team with limited talent...dude was a great Player but he can't coach....he thinks these guys are like him and Luka and will figure out the right play on their own


It's a good point, probably Kidd thinks that all players have his basketball IQ on the court and they don't need a coach.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs @ Hornets (Jan 20, 12PM EST) 

Post#125 » by Archx » Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:35 pm

BliscoSantos wrote:
joesha1698 wrote:
Maverick41 wrote:Yup they're a team I think about when I think of a team that has had the injury bug also and yet the coach has figured out how to make it work. ORL is another one. Both teams that develop their young players and create new gameplans to fit the personnel on the court rather then forcing the same exact gameplan. It's insane that this team tries to play Dinwiddie like he's Luka.

I'm still perplexed by Kidd. He was such a brilliant mind as a player. One of the most creative players ever. But as a coach, he's just so basic. I know that it works when the stars are both playing but when they're not, it's so glaring.


I think Kidd is a brilliant mind. I think he was fired in MIL for coaching too hard and changed his style up to player friendly. I also think he was brought in to play a style that appeases Luka's game, which is iso and pick and roll. A lot of people are blaming Kidd but they won't admit that this heavy iso style of play is for Luka. I do think Kidd deserves some blame for not being flexible.


My only question is ,if they play this way to make Luka happy then why do they insist on playing the same way without him?? Wouldn't his injury be the perfect chance to try something different, perhaps a more team oriented basketball(the european style/Spurs in their prime) ...that would be more suited for a team with limited talent...dude was a great Player but he can't coach....he thinks these guys are like him and Luka and will figure out the right play on their own


Exactly. Luka played 22 games out of possible 43 and he'll miss even more. Why are other coaches prepared for this type of stuff? How does MEM still win without JA and other important pieces?

JJ Redick recently said Lakers don't have a single guy who could break down defenders anytime he wanted, yet they have a better result as Mavs.

Imagine being paid tens of million of $$$ just to sit there and create one dimensional offense just to make your star guy happy. And by some weird chance, other star guy that you have, is incapable or running anything else and is also playing the same way. Yeah, poor Mavs being stuck with Luka watching and eating popcorn while Kidd can't even call a time out to stop opposing team 12-0, etc... :roll:
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs @ Hornets (Jan 20, 12PM EST) 

Post#126 » by joesha1698 » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:24 am

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Trade value should be high as h3ll but with Lively out...will be hard to trade him unless a deal with cant refuse.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs @ Hornets (Jan 20, 12PM EST) 

Post#127 » by joesha1698 » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:33 am

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joesha1698 wrote:
Maverick41 wrote:Yup they're a team I think about when I think of a team that has had the injury bug also and yet the coach has figured out how to make it work. ORL is another one. Both teams that develop their young players and create new gameplans to fit the personnel on the court rather then forcing the same exact gameplan. It's insane that this team tries to play Dinwiddie like he's Luka.

I'm still perplexed by Kidd. He was such a brilliant mind as a player. One of the most creative players ever. But as a coach, he's just so basic. I know that it works when the stars are both playing but when they're not, it's so glaring.


I think Kidd is a brilliant mind. I think he was fired in MIL for coaching too hard and changed his style up to player friendly. I also think he was brought in to play a style that appeases Luka's game, which is iso and pick and roll. A lot of people are blaming Kidd but they won't admit that this heavy iso style of play is for Luka. I do think Kidd deserves some blame for not being flexible.


My only question is ,if they play this way to make Luka happy then why do they insist on playing the same way without him?? Wouldn't his injury be the perfect chance to try something different, perhaps a more team oriented basketball(the european style/Spurs in their prime) ...that would be more suited for a team with limited talent...dude was a great Player but he can't coach....he thinks these guys are like him and Luka and will figure out the right play on their own


I have criticized him for being inflexible. Either that or bring in a back up pure point that can run the offense when Luka is out. How have other teams performed when they run an offense that is so dependent on one player? DanToni Suns with Nash and Dantoni Rockets with Harden comes to mind. If you remember the structure of those teams, they probably struggled without their head guys as well because they were heavily dependent on one guys style but I digress. Kidd deserves some blame for not adjusting as well.

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