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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1221 » by ACMFFL » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:24 am

Doranku wrote:Is it crazy to think this Mavs team could win a title if they're healthy (which is obviously a big if given their personnel) this year?

Kyrie
Klay
PJ
AD
Lively

Dinwiddie/Exum
Grimes
Naji
OMax
Gafford

That is a TOUGH roster to score on.


We have no legit 1st option.
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Post#1222 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:25 am

Bob8 wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
How is this a financial move, if AD is on supermax too? AD will be 35 years old getting 66 mio per year.


You have to email them to find out.

Here.

MavsTV@DallasMavs.com

:lol: :lol: :lol:


You're claiming all night long it's financial reasons, so I'm asking you.


Luka's supposed new 5 year supermax would levy the bill on the new owners until 2032 if it starts on 2027.

Who knows if a real estate mogul has projects where they would need flexibility of $350M? Real estate is a business where spending is frontloaded with construction and all. You will need that cash and not have it tied down to guaranteed money elsewhere. If the bottomline is the same, you go the path with less risk. You know this with your investments, don't you not?
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1223 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:28 am

Mavrelous wrote:
Doranku wrote:Is it crazy to think this Mavs team could win a title if they're healthy (which is obviously a big if given their personnel) this year?

Kyrie
Klay
PJ
AD
Lively

Dinwiddie/Exum
Grimes
Naji
OMax
Gafford

That is a TOUGH roster to score on.

HAve you been watching? Kyrie is not a PG, this team will not know what to do in halfcourt offense in PO setting.


People are reacting to this half baked. It's not a finished product. If Luka was traded, then no one in that lineup is safe from being traded as well.

I stand by my earlier statement where I said that I'd be willing to trade Kyrie as well as his value now is pretty high.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1224 » by ACMFFL » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:30 am

We are done as a contender, and suddenly even our future looks pretty bad considering our two superstars are old and cant stay healthy, and we have no control over our picks from 2027 to 2030, basically all unprotected picks.
I'm so fn despressed, we as Mavs fans dont deserve all of this.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1225 » by Mavrelous » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:30 am

arkuo wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
Doranku wrote:Is it crazy to think this Mavs team could win a title if they're healthy (which is obviously a big if given their personnel) this year?

Kyrie
Klay
PJ
AD
Lively

Dinwiddie/Exum
Grimes
Naji
OMax
Gafford

That is a TOUGH roster to score on.

HAve you been watching? Kyrie is not a PG, this team will not know what to do in halfcourt offense in PO setting.


People are reacting to this half baked. It's not a finished product. If Luka was traded, then no one in that lineup is safe from being traded as well.

I stand by my earlier statement where I said that I'd be willing to trade Kyrie as well as his value now is pretty high.


This franchise is done, in 2 years they'll be a lottery team with Kyrie and AD making 100M$ and no control of their picks.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1226 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:30 am

Luka and Christian Wood pick and rolls in a yellow jersey would create Dallas flashbacks.

It would take some time for LA to build a Luka team. We know this by now. Dallas has gone though different starting fives before they found good pieces who can just catch and shoot. Lakers will experience the same thing, compounded by Lebron's influence on the FO and having him pair Bronny with Luka for the future.
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Post#1227 » by Bob8 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:31 am

arkuo wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
arkuo wrote:
You have to email them to find out.

Here.

MavsTV@DallasMavs.com

:lol: :lol: :lol:


You're claiming all night long it's financial reasons, so I'm asking you.


Luka's supposed new 5 year supermax would levy the bill on the new owners until 2032 if it starts on 2027.

Who knows if a real estate mogul has projects where they would need flexibility of $350M? Real estate is a business where spending is frontloaded with construction and all. You will need that cash and not have it tied down to guaranteed money elsewhere. If the bottomline is the same, you go the path with less risk. You know this with your investments, don't you not?


Man be serious for a second, they could have traded Luka whenever they wanted, even if he signed supermax. They could traded him even, if he had torn achilles and get more than old injury prone AD on 230 mio salary.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1228 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:31 am

Mavrelous wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:HAve you been watching? Kyrie is not a PG, this team will not know what to do in halfcourt offense in PO setting.


People are reacting to this half baked. It's not a finished product. If Luka was traded, then no one in that lineup is safe from being traded as well.

I stand by my earlier statement where I said that I'd be willing to trade Kyrie as well as his value now is pretty high.


This franchise is done, in 2 years they'll be a lottery team with Kyrie and AD making 100M$ and no control of their picks.


The Cowboys have been done for decades and fans still buy their tickets. It's not a new playbook business-wise. I don't necessarily agree with it, but I can see the reasoning.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1229 » by Doranku » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:32 am

Mavrelous wrote:
Doranku wrote:Is it crazy to think this Mavs team could win a title if they're healthy (which is obviously a big if given their personnel) this year?

Kyrie
Klay
PJ
AD
Lively

Dinwiddie/Exum
Grimes
Naji
OMax
Gafford

That is a TOUGH roster to score on.

HAve you been watching? Kyrie is not a PG, this team will not know what to do in halfcourt offense in PO setting.


I mean they have the 7th best offense in the NBA with Luka missing over half the season. I don't think offense has been their issue. They've just had all kinds of other injuries in addition to Luka. Adding a two-way monster like AD is no joke.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1230 » by Bob8 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:33 am

Mavrelous wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:HAve you been watching? Kyrie is not a PG, this team will not know what to do in halfcourt offense in PO setting.


People are reacting to this half baked. It's not a finished product. If Luka was traded, then no one in that lineup is safe from being traded as well.

I stand by my earlier statement where I said that I'd be willing to trade Kyrie as well as his value now is pretty high.


This franchise is done, in 2 years they'll be a lottery team with Kyrie and AD making 100M$ and no control of their picks.


They will making near 120 mio. AD's last season is 66 mio.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1231 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:34 am

Bob8 wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
You're claiming all night long it's financial reasons, so I'm asking you.


Luka's supposed new 5 year supermax would levy the bill on the new owners until 2032 if it starts on 2027.

Who knows if a real estate mogul has projects where they would need flexibility of $350M? Real estate is a business where spending is frontloaded with construction and all. You will need that cash and not have it tied down to guaranteed money elsewhere. If the bottomline is the same, you go the path with less risk. You know this with your investments, don't you not?


Man be serious for a second, they could have traded Luka whenever they wanted, even if he signed supermax. They could traded him even, if he had torn achilles and get more than old injury prone AD on 230 mio salary.


Assuming the checkbook is signed by you, then sure, you can do whatever you want with your money.

Armchair coaches can always say do this and do that. You could probably turn a hundred dollars into $5B too in internetland.

Money's not mine. I'm just reading stuff. Go on. :lol:
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1232 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:36 am

Bob8 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
arkuo wrote:
People are reacting to this half baked. It's not a finished product. If Luka was traded, then no one in that lineup is safe from being traded as well.

I stand by my earlier statement where I said that I'd be willing to trade Kyrie as well as his value now is pretty high.


This franchise is done, in 2 years they'll be a lottery team with Kyrie and AD making 100M$ and no control of their picks.


They will making near 120 mio. AD's last season is 66 mio.



Look, I'm not pro AD. But it's telling that the situation with Luka must have been so bad the new owners preferred AD who is a bad product in itself. They see things we don't.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1233 » by Bob8 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:38 am

arkuo wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Luka's supposed new 5 year supermax would levy the bill on the new owners until 2032 if it starts on 2027.

Who knows if a real estate mogul has projects where they would need flexibility of $350M? Real estate is a business where spending is frontloaded with construction and all. You will need that cash and not have it tied down to guaranteed money elsewhere. If the bottomline is the same, you go the path with less risk. You know this with your investments, don't you not?


Man be serious for a second, they could have traded Luka whenever they wanted, even if he signed supermax. They could traded him even, if he had torn achilles and get more than old injury prone AD on 230 mio salary.


Assuming the checkbook is signed by you, then sure, you can do whatever you want with your money.

Armchair coaches can always say do this and do that. You could probably turn a hundred dollars into $5B too in internetland.

Money's not mine. I'm just reading stuff. Go on. :lol:


That's exactly what I'm saying, AD is on bigger contract than Luka now and they could always traded Luka, if they didn't want to pay him in 2027. You're acting like you can't trade player on supermax. AD salary in 2027/28 will be as big as would have been Luka's supermax.
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Post#1234 » by ACMFFL » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:39 am

Suddenly I miss Cuban, he would have had never eeever allowed to move his franchise player, let alone for this pathetic package.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1235 » by Bob8 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:39 am

Doranku wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
Doranku wrote:Is it crazy to think this Mavs team could win a title if they're healthy (which is obviously a big if given their personnel) this year?

Kyrie
Klay
PJ
AD
Lively

Dinwiddie/Exum
Grimes
Naji
OMax
Gafford

That is a TOUGH roster to score on.

HAve you been watching? Kyrie is not a PG, this team will not know what to do in halfcourt offense in PO setting.


I mean they have the 7th best offense in the NBA with Luka missing over half the season. I don't think offense has been their issue. They've just had all kinds of other injuries in addition to Luka. Adding a two-way monster like AD is no joke.


They are 21st offense in Nba in last 15 games. They suck immensely without Luka.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1236 » by 41Dirk41 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:42 am

Bob8 wrote:
Doranku wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:HAve you been watching? Kyrie is not a PG, this team will not know what to do in halfcourt offense in PO setting.


I mean they have the 7th best offense in the NBA with Luka missing over half the season. I don't think offense has been their issue. They've just had all kinds of other injuries in addition to Luka. Adding a two-way monster like AD is no joke.


They are 21st offense in Nba in last 15 games. They suck immensely without Luka.


And they traded Luka for his defense... But our defense was awful last 15 games with Luka out.

Hilarious.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1237 » by GIMME_DATT » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:45 am

ACMFFL wrote:
Doranku wrote:Is it crazy to think this Mavs team could win a title if they're healthy (which is obviously a big if given their personnel) this year?

Kyrie
Klay
PJ
AD
Lively

Dinwiddie/Exum
Grimes
Naji
OMax
Gafford

That is a TOUGH roster to score on.


We have no legit 1st option.

Jimmy butler?
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1238 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:49 am

The longer I read stuff, the more I feel that something behind the scenes tipped the scales for Mavs ownership to send Luka out. Must be something drastic to elicit this type of reaction.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1239 » by ACMFFL » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:50 am

GIMME_DATT wrote:
ACMFFL wrote:
Doranku wrote:Is it crazy to think this Mavs team could win a title if they're healthy (which is obviously a big if given their personnel) this year?

Kyrie
Klay
PJ
AD
Lively

Dinwiddie/Exum
Grimes
Naji
OMax
Gafford

That is a TOUGH roster to score on.


We have no legit 1st option.

Jimmy butler?


If we plan to turn this team into the worst version of the actual Suns..forgive me, my friend, but I'm so depressed this morning..
Both AD and Kyrie in their prime needed an LBJ level of talent next to them to compete for the title.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1240 » by ACMFFL » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:55 am

Next stop, move the franchise to Las Vegas.
**** the Adelson.
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