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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap 

Post#1261 » by kanofwindHK » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:11 pm

joesha1698 wrote:I wasnt big on DLO but he is a good shooter, has a history with AD, and is a better offensive player than Spencer and Exum when he's focus and playing the right way. I would take him for the right price and he will do an adequate job with Kyrie out with this cast of players. The real issue is are you going to be able to give him quality playing time on this roster when Kyrie comes back? Will there be a enough minutes to go around? Because you probably dont want to play them together too often but DLO can play off-guard and stroke it from the 3.

Note: The one thing I worry about with a guy like DLO is his competitive spirt at times. One thing Indiana and OKC taught me is that you need guys on your roster that love to compete. Watch the film. Give me the guys who are always competing. The dorts, the Curoso's, etc. I want highly competitive guys on this team. These are the type of guys who are going to hold the standard.


If dlo willing to accept the 5.7M TMLE offer, he should know his role here, the first team PG in the first half season but mainly a backup behind irving
If he not willing to accept this role, he should not sign with us at first
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Post#1262 » by Darren » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:13 pm

I think DoLo should be the lowest priority way behind CP3, Westbrook, Schroder, Brogdon, etc. DoLo has never been proven winner. The Mavs is forerunner for obvious reason.
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Post#1263 » by arkuo » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:14 pm

Forbes wrote:I would much rather give Brandon Williams the minutes we’d give DLO. I don’t even want DLO anywhere near us.



Brandon Williams will have Brandon William minutes.

DLO is taking Dinwiddie or Exum's minutes. I think this is where it's at. Will Dinwiddie do a better job at it than DLO?

I think DLO for $5M is robbery. You take that 1 year deal and roll the dice on DLO. We've seen what Dinwiddie is capable of.

DLO is disposable after a year if he doesn't work out.
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Post#1264 » by Darren » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:16 pm

The coaching staff arsenal has almost made empty. Sweeney, Dudley and Shamgod are getting hired elsewhere.
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Post#1265 » by arkuo » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:17 pm

Darren wrote:I think DoLo should be the lowest priority way behind CP3, Westbrook, Schroder, Brogdon, etc. DoLo has never been proven winner. The Mavs is forerunner for obvious reason.


I like Schroeder best from that list. If they're all willing to accept $5M then have at it.

CP3 will take some extra convincing since he said he wanted to spend time with his family in LA.
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Post#1266 » by arkuo » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:22 pm

If Walker Kessler gets traded to the Lakers as the rumors have it, then they get Rui Hachimura in return.

This would be the time when I think Danny Ainge would entertain Gafford and picks for Collin Sexton.

If this is the route we're going for.

Things to keep in mind after this trade:
- You lose Gaff so you would have to replace that aspect
- You lose a pick or two
- You will have to re-sign Sexton to a bigger deal long term so to avoid the 2nd apron again, you will need to let Klay or PJ or some players go for nothing like Boston did for KP.

More holes to plug but if there are solutions to that, I think Sexton would be able to keep that position above water until Kyrie gets back.
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Post#1267 » by Mavrelous » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:24 pm

arkuo wrote:If Walker Kessler gets traded to the Lakers as the rumors have it, then they get Rui Hachimura in return.

This would be the time when I think Danny Ainge would entertain Gafford and picks for Collin Sexton.

If this is the route we're going for.

The Luka trade made us forget how terrible Pelinka is, that wouod be a terrible fit with Lakers roster.
Defense wins draft lotteries!
Fortune favours the bold, so it ducked Nico Harrison.
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Post#1268 » by Darren » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:29 pm

arkuo wrote:If Walker Kessler gets traded to the Lakers as the rumors have it, then they get Rui Hachimura in return.

This would be the time when I think Danny Ainge would entertain Gafford and picks for Collin Sexton.

If this is the route we're going for.

Things to keep in mind after this trade:
- You lose Gaff so you would have to replace that aspect
- You lose a pick or two
- You will have to re-sign Sexton to a bigger deal long term so to avoid the 2nd apron again, you will need to let Klay or PJ or some players go for nothing like Boston did for KP.

More holes to plug but if there are solutions to that, I think Sexton would be able to keep that position above water until Kyrie gets back.


I think Schroeder is a good player who has made immediate impact for Toronto and has got a champion as German team leader. I am not sure about the personality and chemistry issue though. Dirk seems to dislike Schroeder very much.
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Post#1269 » by arkuo » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:30 pm

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arkuo wrote:If Walker Kessler gets traded to the Lakers as the rumors have it, then they get Rui Hachimura in return.

This would be the time when I think Danny Ainge would entertain Gafford and picks for Collin Sexton.

If this is the route we're going for.

The Luka trade made us forget how terrible Pelinka is, that wouod be a terrible fit with Lakers roster.


We have to understand that the Lakers are in version 1.0 of the Luka experience. A lot of GMs think that any defensive center would just be a plug and play thing with that Luka software.

As Mavs fans, we've seen Luka with Deandre Jordan, Nerlens Noel, Willie Caulie Stein, Kristaps Porzingis, Richaun Holmes, then eventually to Gafford and Lively. Most of those names are rim running bigs or stretch bigs who on paper would work with Luka. But we all know how those panned out. They're in version 1 of that, so it will take a lot of trial and error. By sending Luka to LA, Nico is betting against time that he can win one before Rob figures it out. So it's a race against the clock then. Rob is wasting Luka's time by going back and fourth and even signing LBJ to $52M.

Also Rob is dealing with Danny Ainge. Hard to think of a universe where Rob schools him.
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Post#1270 » by Darren » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:34 pm

Actually, things could be worse if Luka is being recruited elsewhere or has severe injuries playing for national team. It's still wrong to bite on lowball offer though.
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Post#1271 » by arkuo » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:35 pm

Darren wrote:Actually, things could be worse if Luka is being recruited elsewhere or has severe injuries playing for national team. It's still wrong to bite on lowball offer though.


If I were Luka, I'd go to Orlando. That team has a lot of pieces that would fit his style of play.

And to your point, Yes Nico should have squeezed more out of LA in exchange for Luka.
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Post#1272 » by arkuo » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:40 pm

The Nets have 5 picks in the draft. I don't see them showing up with 5 rookies to training camp.

PJ + Caleb Martin for Cam Johnson and pick (Walter Clayton)

Fair?
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Post#1273 » by Darren » Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:01 pm

arkuo wrote:The Nets have 5 picks in the draft. I don't see them showing up with 5 rookies to training camp.

PJ + Caleb Martin for Cam Johnson and pick (Walter Clayton)

Fair?


I don't consider Cam Johnson a fit. The Mavs has similar player in Klay. I don't know what to expect from Clayton. If it takes pure cash, it's fine, though. If you can sign-n-trade for Cam Thomas, I am fine parting with PJ, tough.
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Post#1274 » by Darren » Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:02 pm

I think Cam Thomas is even better than Monk.
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Post#1275 » by fuller4379 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:03 pm

I was hoping that Kyrie would walk so we could start focusing on the future.
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Post#1276 » by Mr B » Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:15 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
Mr B wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
Reading the tea leaves, they are targeting a PG with the TPMLE and calling it an off season.
Lively/Gafford
AD/PJ
Flagg/Marshall
Klay/Martin
TMPLE/Christie

With Powell, Williams, Hardy and Prosper warming the bench and Kyrie rehabbing.

One of Marshall/Martin needs to go IMO, they simply have no place in rotation.

I read yesterday that teams are really interested in Caleb Martin. Not sure how interested but Mavs are fielding calls for him.


There was a tweet that popped up in my feed, I think it was a joke, he was terrible last year, really unplayable.

True but most teams do not look at 1 year when it comes to a players productivity. The fact is even though he had a down year he is a productive 3-4 off the bench. There are a lot of teams that could use a player like that. As a Mavs fan don’t be jaded by this 1 year. You have to get over your Nico hate and see the team for what it is.

Just because a player has a down year doesn’t mean that he has zero value.
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Post#1277 » by Archx » Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:15 pm

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Archx wrote:Lets trade Luka because of... defense? And then bring in a defensive virtuoso and a superb playoff performer DLo to replace him at playmaking position. Brilliant mind Nico, absolutely brilliant.



They did add defense when they traded Luka. That's what AD was for. Whoever they get at guard now is a placeholder until Kyrie gets back. If Kyrie didn't get injured, then there's no need for said placeholder.

They did trade Luka. Mavs Twitter expects 15 Jrue Holidays with various heights and positions. LOL

Luka fans have been pissed since March trying to dissect every move. Maybe I'm just naturally easy going so I could care less. You guys need to let it go. All that anger is cancerous man. And for a sports team? Not worth it.


Lol my post was more or less sarcastic but the point still stands. Mavs had every piece in place already for the next 10 years (with minor adjustments needed).

Btw if you think a guy like DLo will only be a "placeholder" for Kyrie, then you're kidding yourself. He'll see time in playoffs as well and there is also no guarantee that Kyrie will be the same player as he was before. Also, Kyrie is not a real playmaker he's a combo guard capable of passing.
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Post#1278 » by Darren » Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:17 pm

When situations present itself, you should seize the opportunity especially under the new hard cap. You can't keep a super team at all. This is why Houston trades for KD. You can't sign 5-8 rookies for Max deal. Quality is more important than quantity. 2025 is supposed to be a loaded draft. But can you find 10 2-way contributors for a playoff team? As good as.Ace Bailey, the ball hawks playing style may not fit a playoff team.
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Post#1279 » by Mr B » Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:18 pm

Archx wrote:Lets trade Luka because of... defense? And then bring in a defensive virtuoso and a superb playoff performer DLo to replace him at playmaking position. Brilliant mind Nico, absolutely brilliant.

You still don’t get it. Regardless of what reason was given, Luka was traded for personal reasons. It has nothing to do with his defense (or lack thereof). The trade was made because he got into a pissing match with a guy that had more power than him within the organization.
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Post#1280 » by Archx » Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:20 pm

Mr B wrote:
Archx wrote:Lets trade Luka because of... defense? And then bring in a defensive virtuoso and a superb playoff performer DLo to replace him at playmaking position. Brilliant mind Nico, absolutely brilliant.

You still don’t get it. Regardless of what reason was given, Luka was traded for personal reasons. It has nothing to do with his defense (or lack thereof). The trade was made because he got into a pissing match with a guy that had more power than him within the organization.


Dude, i know way more than you regarding the trade. I get news here from his dad that you don't :lol: ... And read post above, i said i wrote it in a sarcastic way. Try and understand the point of it.

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