Around the league -- Offseason edition

[41Dirk41]

Grimes wanted to be traded after Luka fiasco, Nico moron Harrison had to trade him ASAP and no more options were on the table.

I hoped all roster had demanded a trade after that collusion but it didn't happened. Unfortunately.

NBA needs an epic shock, Silver made this league a joke.

[Bob8]

What I don't understand is why Nico felt he HAD TO trade Grimes. We had his bird rights and could match any offer, get a S&T, or simply let him walk and be relieved the $4.2m salary. The only thing I can think of is that Nico was pissed Grimes didn't take his paltry offer. I know the Grimes camp said they wanted $25m to $30m; but people in hell want ice water. The funny part is Grimes will get that contract this summer.

Problem is Grimes' agent informed Mavs that he wants to be traded after the Luka deal. On his way out, he trashed the organization how badly they treated Luka. He was basically the first guy who spoke up about the trade.

But lets pretend both trades never happened. Grimes would give Mavs insane depth, which would have already been quite good. That team was legit 8-9 players deep and they could have gone toe to toe with OKC. So obviously many believed this was actually Mavs year to win. IND wouldn't stand a chance against that team in the finals.

So, with that being said, even if Grimes declined to any contract offer, the smartest thing to do would be to just ride it out and go for the ring and let Grimes walk, because you already accomplished the mission, you won it all. But no, Nico had to be smarter than that and completely ruined everything and now Grimes is getting actually paid LESS than Martin who Nico traded for because of APRON reasons.

And another fun fact if you didn't know, AD agreed to decline his trade kicker clause so that Mavs could stay under the 2nd apron with a chance of signing another cheaper player lol.

Nico literally screwed up 3 players and entire city of Dallas and Mavs fanbase IN ONLY A WEEK !!! Then after Mavs landed nr1 pick he had the balls to say "I hope fans can see the vision now".

And this is why he has to go even if by some miracle Mavs win a ring, fans will always hate this dumbass.

Grimes denied that he wanted to be traded. He said he didn't know anything about the trade.

[Super Cooper]

Here's a fun fact of how dumb that Grimes-Martin trade was/is beyond just PPG:

Quentin Grimes has made 95 3s since departing from the Mavs. Shooting 38% on a whopping 7-8 attempts per game. Grimes has averaged 4 apg since leaving the Mavs. He's also played 1069 minutes since leaving the Mavs.

Martin has made 5 total 3s since joining the Mavs. Shooting 26% on a pathetic 1 3PA a game. Martin has averaged 1 apg since joining the Mavs. Martin has played only 308 minutes in total with the Mavs.

There's our 3 biggest issues. Shooting, playmaking, availability. All of which Grimes could have helped with quite a bit.

Thanks for your research. That certainly brings the point home.

What I don't understand is why Nico felt he HAD TO trade Grimes. We had his bird rights and could match any offer, get a S&T, or simply let him walk and be relieved the $4.2m salary. The only thing I can think of is that Nico was pissed Grimes didn't take his paltry offer. I know the Grimes camp said they wanted $25m to $30m; but people in hell want ice water. The funny part is Grimes will get that contract this summer.

The Result?
PHI got another year of Grimes for only $8.7m. Grimes 33.3mins, 21.3pts, 2.94m3pt on 38%, 5.1rbs, 4.8asts 1.4stls in 31 games.
We got another 3 years of Martin for the bargain price of $27m. Martin 17.1mins, 4.8pts, 0.3m3pt on 27%, 2.5rbs, 1.7asts 0.9stls in 18 games.

Oh, and let's not forget the 2025 SRP Nico tossed to PHI, insult to injury. It became SEC player of the year C Johni Broome.

[Super Cooper]

What I don't understand is why Nico felt he HAD TO trade Grimes. We had his bird rights and could match any offer, get a S&T, or simply let him walk and be relieved the $4.2m salary. The only thing I can think of is that Nico was pissed Grimes didn't take his paltry offer. I know the Grimes camp said they wanted $25m to $30m; but people in hell want ice water. The funny part is Grimes will get that contract this summer.

Problem is Grimes' agent informed Mavs that he wants to be traded after the Luka deal. On his way out, he trashed the organization how badly they treated Luka. He was basically the first guy who spoke up about the trade.

But lets pretend both trades never happened. Grimes would give Mavs insane depth, which would have already been quite good. That team was legit 8-9 players deep and they could have gone toe to toe with OKC. So obviously many believed this was actually Mavs year to win. IND wouldn't stand a chance against that team in the finals.

So, with that being said, even if Grimes declined to any contract offer, the smartest thing to do would be to just ride it out and go for the ring and let Grimes walk, because you already accomplished the mission, you won it all. But no, Nico had to be smarter than that and completely ruined everything and now Grimes is getting actually paid LESS than Martin who Nico traded for because of APRON reasons.

And another fun fact if you didn't know, AD agreed to decline his trade kicker clause so that Mavs could stay under the 2nd apron with a chance of signing another cheaper player lol.

Nico literally screwed up 3 players and entire city of Dallas and Mavs fanbase IN ONLY A WEEK !!! Then after Mavs landed nr1 pick he had the balls to say "I hope fans can see the vision now".

And this is why he has to go even if by some miracle Mavs win a ring, fans will always hate this dumbass.

Grimes denied that he wanted to be traded. He said he didn't know anything about the trade.

Ya, I call BS on his wanting to be traded. For what reason? It doesn't make sense. He was going to be a RFA and the Mavs desperately needed him.

I wonder if Nico influenced Kidd in not utilizing Grimes that much. I can't imagine he looked at the Luka-less roster and said "let me sit this 24yo defensive stud who shoots 3's at a high percentage".

[Bob8]

Here's a fun fact of how dumb that Grimes-Martin trade was/is beyond just PPG:

Quentin Grimes has made 95 3s since departing from the Mavs. Shooting 38% on a whopping 7-8 attempts per game. Grimes has averaged 4 apg since leaving the Mavs. He's also played 1069 minutes since leaving the Mavs.

Martin has made 5 total 3s since joining the Mavs. Shooting 26% on a pathetic 1 3PA a game. Martin has averaged 1 apg since joining the Mavs. Martin has played only 308 minutes in total with the Mavs.

There's our 3 biggest issues. Shooting, playmaking, availability. All of which Grimes could have helped with quite a bit.

Thanks for your research. That certainly brings the point home.

What I don't understand is why Nico felt he HAD TO trade Grimes. We had his bird rights and could match any offer, get a S&T, or simply let him walk and be relieved the $4.2m salary. The only thing I can think of is that Nico was pissed Grimes didn't take his paltry offer. I know the Grimes camp said they wanted $25m to $30m; but people in hell want ice water. The funny part is Grimes will get that contract this summer.

The Result?
PHI got another year of Grimes for only $8.7m. Grimes 33.3mins, 21.3pts, 2.94m3pt on 38%, 5.1rbs, 4.8asts 1.4stls in 31 games.
We got another 3 years of Martin for the bargain price of $27m. Martin 17.1mins, 4.8pts, 0.3m3pt on 27%, 2.5rbs, 1.7asts 0.9stls in 18 games.

Oh, and let's not forget the 2025 SRP Nico tossed to PHI, insult to injury. It became SEC player of the year C Johni Broome.

In fact he tossed 2, but he got 1 back after they saw Martin's injury is more severe. Nico could have gone out of the deal too at that moment, but he wanted Martin that bad.

[Archx]

Problem is Grimes' agent informed Mavs that he wants to be traded after the Luka deal. On his way out, he trashed the organization how badly they treated Luka. He was basically the first guy who spoke up about the trade.

But lets pretend both trades never happened. Grimes would give Mavs insane depth, which would have already been quite good. That team was legit 8-9 players deep and they could have gone toe to toe with OKC. So obviously many believed this was actually Mavs year to win. IND wouldn't stand a chance against that team in the finals.

So, with that being said, even if Grimes declined to any contract offer, the smartest thing to do would be to just ride it out and go for the ring and let Grimes walk, because you already accomplished the mission, you won it all. But no, Nico had to be smarter than that and completely ruined everything and now Grimes is getting actually paid LESS than Martin who Nico traded for because of APRON reasons.

And another fun fact if you didn't know, AD agreed to decline his trade kicker clause so that Mavs could stay under the 2nd apron with a chance of signing another cheaper player lol.

Nico literally screwed up 3 players and entire city of Dallas and Mavs fanbase IN ONLY A WEEK !!! Then after Mavs landed nr1 pick he had the balls to say "I hope fans can see the vision now".

And this is why he has to go even if by some miracle Mavs win a ring, fans will always hate this dumbass.

Grimes denied that he wanted to be traded. He said he didn't know anything about the trade.

Ya, I call BS on his wanting to be traded. For what reason? It doesn't make sense. He was going to be a RFA and the Mavs desperately needed him.

I wonder if Nico influenced Kidd in not utilizing Grimes that much. I can't imagine he looked at the Luka-less roster and said "let me sit this 24yo defensive stud who shoots 3's at a high percentage".

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2025/2/7/24360420/report-quentin-grimes-agent-asked-out-of-dallas-following-luka-doncic-trade-to-lakers

[Super Cooper]

Grimes denied that he wanted to be traded. He said he didn't know anything about the trade.

Ya, I call BS on his wanting to be traded. For what reason? It doesn't make sense. He was going to be a RFA and the Mavs desperately needed him.

I wonder if Nico influenced Kidd in not utilizing Grimes that much. I can't imagine he looked at the Luka-less roster and said "let me sit this 24yo defensive stud who shoots 3's at a high percentage".

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2025/2/7/24360420/report-quentin-grimes-agent-asked-out-of-dallas-following-luka-doncic-trade-to-lakers

Eek. That is internet "journalism" at its finest...

It’s starting to feel like former Dallas Mavericks guard Quentin Grimes caught a stray in the aftermath of Saturday’s cataclysmic Luka-Dončić-to-the-Lakers trade. Grimes, along with a second-round draft pick, was dealt to the Philadelphia 76ers in exchange for Caleb Martin early Tuesday afternoon, just a few hours before the two teams faced off at Philly’s Wells Fargo Center. The 76ers handed the Mavs their 15th loss in the team’s last 22 games, 118-116, that evening.

As the dust settled on the decimated remains of the Mavericks franchise and fanbase following the jaw-dropping move to end the Dončić Era in Dallas, Grimes may have felt his playing time starting to evaporate. With restricted free agency looming a little more than a couple of months away for the 24-year-old 3-and-D guard, at least one NBA analyst (unnamed) is reporting that it was Grimes who had seen enough and wanted out of Dallas.

[Super Cooper]

Ya, I call BS on his wanting to be traded. For what reason? It doesn't make sense. He was going to be a RFA and the Mavs desperately needed him.

I wonder if Nico influenced Kidd in not utilizing Grimes that much. I can't imagine he looked at the Luka-less roster and said "let me sit this 24yo defensive stud who shoots 3's at a high percentage".

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2025/2/7/24360420/report-quentin-grimes-agent-asked-out-of-dallas-following-luka-doncic-trade-to-lakers

Eek. That is internet "journalism" at its finest...

It’s starting to feel like former Dallas Mavericks guard Quentin Grimes caught a stray in the aftermath of Saturday’s cataclysmic Luka-Dončić-to-the-Lakers trade. Grimes, along with a second-round draft pick, was dealt to the Philadelphia 76ers in exchange for Caleb Martin early Tuesday afternoon, just a few hours before the two teams faced off at Philly’s Wells Fargo Center. The 76ers handed the Mavs their 15th loss in the team’s last 22 games, 118-116, that evening.

As the dust settled on the decimated remains of the Mavericks franchise and fanbase following the jaw-dropping move to end the Dončić Era in Dallas, Grimes may have felt his playing time starting to evaporate. With restricted free agency looming a little more than a couple of months away for the 24-year-old 3-and-D guard, at least one NBA analyst (unnamed) is reporting that it was Grimes who had seen enough and wanted out of Dallas.

"Quentin Grimes caught a stray"

What does pet adoption have to do with the story? lol

[Bob8]

Grimes denied that he wanted to be traded. He said he didn't know anything about the trade.

Ya, I call BS on his wanting to be traded. For what reason? It doesn't make sense. He was going to be a RFA and the Mavs desperately needed him.

I wonder if Nico influenced Kidd in not utilizing Grimes that much. I can't imagine he looked at the Luka-less roster and said "let me sit this 24yo defensive stud who shoots 3's at a high percentage".

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2025/2/7/24360420/report-quentin-grimes-agent-asked-out-of-dallas-following-luka-doncic-trade-to-lakers

https://thesmokingcuban.com/nba-insider-exposes-brutal-truth-about-dallas-mavericks-embarrassing-quentin-grimes-trade

I would believe Marc Stein more.