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Post#141 » by Pinkyring » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:33 am

Id love a run at derozen, thj delon wright and 18 for derozen, or a run at kris dunn who is a Marcus smart clone, offer him 3/24
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Post#142 » by arkuo » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:02 am

Dont punt the summer of 2020 and get some help. Trade for contracts that are of the same length, that way you dont lose anything reserved for 2021.

Trade Powell + Delon + Jackson + #18

for

Randle, Ntlikina


C- Porzingis / Boban / WCS
PF- Randle / Kleber
SF- DFS / THJ
SG - Ntlikina / Curry
PG - Doncic / Brunson

Randle's contract is the same length as Powell + Delon. You dont lose anything there but get younger and bigger. And the next time Harrell calls Luka a p*ssy a$$ white boy, you got an enforcer to knock his teeth out. LOL
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Re: 2020 Offseason Strategy Thread 

Post#143 » by Mr B » Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:19 pm

arkuo wrote:Dont punt the summer of 2020 and get some help. Trade for contracts that are of the same length, that way you dont lose anything reserved for 2021.

Trade Powell + Delon + Jackson + #18

for

Randle, Ntlikina


C- Porzingis / Boban / WCS
PF- Randle / Kleber
SF- DFS / THJ
SG - Ntlikina / Curry
PG - Doncic / Brunson

Randle's contract is the same length as Powell + Delon. You dont lose anything there but get younger and bigger. And the next time Harrell calls Luka a p*ssy a$$ white boy, you got an enforcer to knock his teeth out. LOL

This off season trades are definitely going to be the best way to tweak this roster. I expect THJ to opt in so I don’t expect any major changes. I would love to see KP and Luka put up the same production that they’re doing in the bubble but over the course of an entire season. They do need a bruiser and a defensive minded wing. I don’t know if these are their two best options but it will likely be a trade like that.


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Re: 2020 Offseason Strategy Thread 

Post#144 » by HMFFL » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:30 am

Pinkyring wrote:Id love a run at derozen, thj delon wright and 18 for derozen, or a run at kris dunn who is a Marcus smart clone, offer him 3/24
Why Derozen?
I can't support adding him since he no long makes 3's. He made 9 this season.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Strategy Thread 

Post#145 » by Pinkyring » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:41 am

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Pinkyring wrote:Id love a run at derozen, thj delon wright and 18 for derozen, or a run at kris dunn who is a Marcus smart clone, offer him 3/24
Why Derozen?
I can't support adding him since he no long makes 3's. He made 9 this season.

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Why does 3 point shooting from him matter? Hes uber efficient with a great midrange game, teams aren't going to leave him open
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Post#146 » by Pointguard01 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:43 pm

Pinkyring wrote:
HMFFL wrote:
Pinkyring wrote:Id love a run at derozen, thj delon wright and 18 for derozen, or a run at kris dunn who is a Marcus smart clone, offer him 3/24
Why Derozen?
I can't support adding him since he no long makes 3's. He made 9 this season.

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Why does 3 point shooting from him matter? Hes uber efficient with a great midrange game, teams aren't going to leave him open


Well, it does matter in Dallas, when we have a guy named Luka.

Derozen would have the ball in his hand very few times per game compared to what he’s use to. He makes no sense for this team, esp when it’s clear we need to add a defender to the Luka-KP-THJ starting lineup.
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Post#147 » by Mike lorenzo » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:13 pm

What do you think of Bojan Bogdanovic
This guy would be a killer playing with Luka
of the best shooters in the game
thj + Brunson for Bojan
Delon + Jackson for Snell
1 get wright off the books
lock up little Iverson Burke this boy born to play Mavs
Burke / Curry
Luka / (# 18Green)
Dfs / Snell
Bogs / Maxi
Kp / Powell
1+1=11
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Re: 2020 Offseason Strategy Thread 

Post#148 » by Pinkyring » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:47 pm

Pointguard01 wrote:
Pinkyring wrote:
HMFFL wrote:Why Derozen?
I can't support adding him since he no long makes 3's. He made 9 this season.

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Why does 3 point shooting from him matter? Hes uber efficient with a great midrange game, teams aren't going to leave him open


Well, it does matter in Dallas, when we have a guy named Luka.

Derozen would have the ball in his hand very few times per game compared to what he’s use to. He makes no sense for this team, esp when it’s clear we need to add a defender to the Luka-KP-THJ starting lineup.

In my trade tim would be gone and there still plenty possessions for derozen to have the ball, parr of the reason luka has it so much is because literally nobody else on this roster can get their own shot or make plays for orhers, that needs to change if we're going to be a contender
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Re: 2020 Offseason Strategy Thread 

Post#149 » by Mr B » Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:40 pm

Pinkyring wrote:
HMFFL wrote:
Pinkyring wrote:Id love a run at derozen, thj delon wright and 18 for derozen, or a run at kris dunn who is a Marcus smart clone, offer him 3/24
Why Derozen?
I can't support adding him since he no long makes 3's. He made 9 this season.

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Why does 3 point shooting from him matter? Hes uber efficient with a great midrange game, teams aren't going to leave him open

Because it’s a staple in the Mavs offense. The threat of the 3 is the reason the lane is always wide open for Luka. If you eliminate the threat of the 3 defense can just collapse on Luka.


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Re: 2020 Offseason Strategy Thread 

Post#150 » by arkuo » Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:43 pm

Donnie needs to take a good look at Christian Wood to play PF here.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Strategy Thread 

Post#151 » by Pinkyring » Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:45 pm

Mr B wrote:
Pinkyring wrote:
HMFFL wrote:Why Derozen?
I can't support adding him since he no long makes 3's. He made 9 this season.

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Why does 3 point shooting from him matter? Hes uber efficient with a great midrange game, teams aren't going to leave him open

Because it’s a staple in the Mavs offense. The threat of the 3 is the reason the lane is always wide open for Luka. If you eliminate the threat of the 3 defense can just collapse on Luka.


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This is only if said player. Can't score, nobody is going to leave derozen open becuase he has a great mid range game and can get to the basket, idk people understand that.
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Post#152 » by swaggerbox » Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:54 pm

arkuo wrote:Donnie needs to take a good look at Christian Wood to play PF here.

maybe expensive for what they are only willing to spend in the offseason.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Strategy Thread 

Post#153 » by arkuo » Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:17 pm

swaggerbox wrote:
arkuo wrote:Donnie needs to take a good look at Christian Wood to play PF here.

maybe expensive for what they are only willing to spend in the offseason.


Maybe S&T Wood for Delon + 18. Works for me too
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Post#154 » by ejs78 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:37 pm

I live in Detroit. Wood is much improved but his mistakes would drive Rick crazy. Poor defender and takes some really really bad shots.
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arkuo wrote:Donnie needs to take a good look at Christian Wood to play PF here.

maybe expensive for what they are only willing to spend in the offseason.


Maybe S&T Wood for Delon + 18. Works for me too


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Re: 2020 Offseason Strategy Thread 

Post#155 » by Pointguard01 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:04 pm

Pinkyring wrote:
Mr B wrote:
Pinkyring wrote:Why does 3 point shooting from him matter? Hes uber efficient with a great midrange game, teams aren't going to leave him open

Because it’s a staple in the Mavs offense. The threat of the 3 is the reason the lane is always wide open for Luka. If you eliminate the threat of the 3 defense can just collapse on Luka.


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This is only if said player. Can't score, nobody is going to leave derozen open becuase he has a great mid range game and can get to the basket, idk people understand that.


Literally everyone leaves him open outside. I’d recommend watching some games this year. The ball basically stops when someone else creates and he has an open 3. He would make all the work Luka did pointless.

Pretty much every NBA expert (and any aware fans) would hate this move. I’ll drop it bc it’s really one of the last moves we’d make.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Strategy Thread 

Post#156 » by Pinkyring » Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:07 pm

Pointguard01 wrote:
Pinkyring wrote:
Mr B wrote:Because it’s a staple in the Mavs offense. The threat of the 3 is the reason the lane is always wide open for Luka. If you eliminate the threat of the 3 defense can just collapse on Luka.


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This is only if said player. Can't score, nobody is going to leave derozen open becuase he has a great mid range game and can get to the basket, idk people understand that.


Literally everyone leaves him open outside. I’d recommend watching some games this year. The ball basically stops when someone else creates and he has an open 3. He would make all the work Luka did pointless.

Pretty much every NBA expert (and any aware fans) would hate this move. I’ll drop it bc it’s really one of the last moves we’d make.

This is suck a joke, go look at his entire highlight clip and show me the times he was left open off ball, it doesn't happen at all.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Strategy Thread 

Post#157 » by dirkforpres » Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:11 pm

HMFFL wrote:
Pinkyring wrote:Id love a run at derozen, thj delon wright and 18 for derozen, or a run at kris dunn who is a Marcus smart clone, offer him 3/24
Why Derozen?
I can't support adding him since he no long makes 3's. He made 9 this season.

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Agreed. He’s an analytical disaster on the court with his shot selection and ball stoppage. I don’t have a problem with him, but I don’t really see how he would be an improvement over THJ in a system designed to surround Luka with shooters. Aldridge might be worth calling on though
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Re: 2020 Offseason Strategy Thread 

Post#158 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:18 pm

arkuo wrote:Dont punt the summer of 2020 and get some help. Trade for contracts that are of the same length, that way you dont lose anything reserved for 2021.

Trade Powell + Delon + Jackson + #18

for

Randle, Ntlikina


C- Porzingis / Boban / WCS
PF- Randle / Kleber
SF- DFS / THJ
SG - Ntlikina / Curry
PG - Doncic / Brunson

Randle's contract is the same length as Powell + Delon. You dont lose anything there but get younger and bigger. And the next time Harrell calls Luka a p*ssy a$$ white boy, you got an enforcer to knock his teeth out. LOL

This is an interesting idea. Obviously Dallas could make good use of both Randle and Ntilikina. However, the Knicks need shooting, not the likes of Powell and Jackson. And Delon isn't really an improvement over Ntilikina.

On the other hand Randle is definitely on the block and Frank may or may not be.

How could you change the trade to make it more attractive to NY? (I'm not saying the abstract value isn't equal, just that the Knicks are desperate for shooting and not for bangers.) At the moment the #18 and 'hope to draft Nesmith' seems too thin.Clearly Maxi's current shooting woes aren't a help or perhaps he might be an option.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Strategy Thread 

Post#159 » by Pinkyring » Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:37 pm

dirkforpres wrote:
HMFFL wrote:
Pinkyring wrote:Id love a run at derozen, thj delon wright and 18 for derozen, or a run at kris dunn who is a Marcus smart clone, offer him 3/24
Why Derozen?
I can't support adding him since he no long makes 3's. He made 9 this season.

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Agreed. He’s an analytical disaster on the court with his shot selection and ball stoppage. I don’t have a problem with him, but I don’t really see how he would be an improvement over THJ in a system designed to surround Luka with shooters. Aldridge might be worth calling on though

His shot selection? He's more efficient offensively than an player on our team sans seth curry
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Post#160 » by fast+forward » Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:37 pm

if available Jerami Grant would fit nice in a SF/PF 3/D starting role

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