Trade Discussion 22/23

[daoneandonly]

Reports say that Tillman Fertita is hell bent on reducing payroll.

Delon Wright for Eric Gordon works. 4 year contract of Gordon gets reduced to a 2 year deal for him.

I'd easily pass on this. Gordon has a horrible contract, worse than Powell.

I think we can't go out and get a big name guy, Covington was my hope initially but 2 frp is a bit steep. Add to that apparently Orl turned that down for Aaron Gordon, he's likely not attainable either.

I'd be somewhat content with PJ Tucker or James Johnson if the outgoing is any of Wright, Jackson, Cauley-Stein. Obviously no one is taking Powell.

[fbalmeida]

Figure I'd ask your opinion again now that the thread is more active.

What say you about a Norman Powell + Chris Boucher (S&T 6 M on 3 years) for Maxi Kleber?

[dirkforpres]

Figure I'd ask your opinion again now that the thread is more active.

What say you about a Norman Powell + Chris Boucher (S&T 6 M on 3 years) for Maxi Kleber?

Works for me. I think Powell is one of the more underrated players in the league, so it’s an easy yes for me. Doesn’t really clear up 2021 space though

[fbalmeida]

Normgod, as we call him, is most likely taking up his player option in 2021, making him an expiring. Boucher would take up less salary than Kleber.

With Powell you'd have your starting SG, immediately upgrading your backcourt defense, and allowing you to ship out Curry.

The Raptors angle with this trade would be, in the wake of Ibaka's likely departure and Gasol's age, to lock up a traditionally sized 2-way big that can shoot the 3pt, for less then 10 M-ish in 2021 cap space. Getting Kleber would do that, while preserving our max slot for 2021.

At any rate, if VanVleet follows the money this year, we're likely keeping Powell at least until the trade deadline, and finally giving him a chance to see what he looks like as a starter from Game 1.

[daoneandonly]

But Powell cna only guard one position right? Or 2 at most for smaller 2gs? Dallas' biggest defensive hole is the bigger wings, which Maxi covers moreso than Norm.

[fbalmeida]

Yup he's a small-wing defender.

[dirkforpres]

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I hope there’s no truth to this tweet, but it would be typical for Dallas to do something like this.

Go in hoping for one of Lavine/Oladipo/Oubre and end up with Dinwiddie or Lou Williams

[Mr B]

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I hope there’s no truth to this tweet, but it would be typical for Dallas to do something like this.

Go in hoping for one of Lavine/Oladipo/Oubre and end up with Dinwiddie or Lou Williams

With their limited assets what exactly did you expect? You’re not going to get a star player for Dwight Powell.


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[dirkforpres]

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I hope there’s no truth to this tweet, but it would be typical for Dallas to do something like this.

Go in hoping for one of Lavine/Oladipo/Oubre and end up with Dinwiddie or Lou Williams

With their limited assets what exactly did you expect? You’re not going to get a star player for Dwight Powell.


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I assume the trade will be involving 18 if it’s true. I’d honestly rather have an unproven rookie than Dinwiddie. Trading for Adams + Oubre would be preferable because it at least fills a void.

Mavs don’t need another guard that struggles off ball.

[arkuo]

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I hope there’s no truth to this tweet, but it would be typical for Dallas to do something like this.

Go in hoping for one of Lavine/Oladipo/Oubre and end up with Dinwiddie or Lou Williams

With their limited assets what exactly did you expect? You’re not going to get a star player for Dwight Powell.


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I assume the trade will be involving 18 if it’s true. I’d honestly rather have an unproven rookie than Dinwiddie. Trading for Adams + Oubre would be preferable because it at least fills a void.

Mavs don’t need another guard that struggles off ball.

If it does materialize, I'm assuming they'd want Jason Terry type of production for Dinwiddie?

[JD45]

Jason Terry would be great. But Jason Terry was a good outside shooter. Dinwiddie isn't. A PG who isn't a good shooter seems like the worst possible fit with the Mavs.

So they will probably trade THJ and all draft picks for him.

[dirkforpres]

With their limited assets what exactly did you expect? You’re not going to get a star player for Dwight Powell.


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I assume the trade will be involving 18 if it’s true. I’d honestly rather have an unproven rookie than Dinwiddie. Trading for Adams + Oubre would be preferable because it at least fills a void.

Mavs don’t need another guard that struggles off ball.

If it does materialize, I'm assuming they'd want Jason Terry type of production for Dinwiddie?

Terry was a better shooter and also younger when we got him. Mavs need to steer clear of Dinwiddie and chase guys that can actually shoot. Oladipo is better, doesn’t affect 2021 cap, and likely costs the same as SD does. Seems like a no-brainer to me

[arkuo]

Jason Terry would be great. But Jason Terry was a good outside shooter. Dinwiddie isn't. A PG who isn't a good shooter seems like the worst possible fit with the Mavs.

So they will probably trade THJ and all draft picks for him.

THJ has a bigger contract than Dinwiddie alone. If the report is accurate and it does say "multiple pieces", I'm assuming that would be something around Curry + DFS + Brunson. Getting shooters around KD and Kyrie is probably their priority now that Miami, Boston and Milwaukee are all threats in the east. Curry, DFS and Brunson can all play off ball which will be the case when you have KD and Kyrie with LeVert, Joe Harris and Deandre Jordan.

For Dallas, if they manage to still keep THJ from that trade, Im guessing he moves up to SF or off the bench. If NBADraft.net is accurate, Aaron Nesmith will be there at 18 when we pick.

So we're looking at:

C- Porzingis / WCS / Boban
PF- Kleber / Powell
SF - Nesmith / Jackson
SG- Dinwiddie / THJ
PG - Doncic / Burke / Wright

You sign someone like Milsap to the MLE and the whole dynamic changes.

[JJP]

The reason the Mavs look for someone like Dinwiddie is that he he's a playmaker (6.8 assists per 28 MPG) and he's an aggressive scorer. As a single trade piece, it's not all that attractive. but in the right lineup he's a better version of Delon Wright - someone who could effectively run the second unit and get others involved. That really is attractive, plus he put points on the board. You'd like more defense, but Delon wasn't really a difference-maker on defense, so I'm not sure that's even a trade-off.

In order for the fan base to feel good, there will need to be other elements to this once Free Agency is over. I wouldn't give up Delon Wright and #18 just for that. But I would do it for Delon Wright and #31. However, I suspect if there is a trade, other players would be involved.

[Apz]

Dinwiddie rumours gives me nightmares. The 1 spot where we got least reason to upgrade. Would only give scraps for a 30% shooter, no picks and no curry kleber dfs

[JJP]

Brad Townsend Retweeted
Matt Babcock
@MattBabcock11
The Mavs and the Thunder are discussing a trade that would send Danilo Gallinari to Dallas in a sign-and-trade and the 18th pick to OKC, per sources.

Followed minutes later by....

Brad Townsend
@townbrad
I'm told report of Gallinari S&T to Mavs not accurate, at least not as of 4:31 p.m. Long evening and many possibilities ahead.

[dirkules_41]

Brad Townsend Retweeted
Matt Babcock
@MattBabcock11
The Mavs and the Thunder are discussing a trade that would send Danilo Gallinari to Dallas in a sign-and-trade and the 18th pick to OKC, per sources.

Yes please. Crazy how the Thunder is absolutely fleecing everyone again. That Green to PHI trade just now, unreal.

[Archx]

Brad Townsend Retweeted
Matt Babcock
@MattBabcock11
The Mavs and the Thunder are discussing a trade that would send Danilo Gallinari to Dallas in a sign-and-trade and the 18th pick to OKC, per sources.

Yes please. Crazy how the Thunder is absolutely fleecing everyone again. That Green to PHI trade just now, unreal.

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[JJP]

BTW, I feel certain that if we actually draft a player tonight at #18.... that will have been "Plan B" for the Mavs.

[dirkforpres]

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