RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Spurs (Wed, 8:30PM EST)

[XTraderXL]

I'm talking about last playoffs, we don't know what happens this year. You're talking about last 10 Luka's games, because before the trade Mavs were over 0.5 and 0 wins without Luka. Which segment is more representative to you?

You just cant seem to understand what I am saying. Its fine, time will tell who was right. I just hope you will admit I was right all along

I understand very well what you're saying. My problem is with data you're making conclusions on. 10 games is just too small sample size to make any kind of conclusion.

It has nothing to do with the 10 games. I had the same opinion before that. Anyways, I explained my reasoning multiple times before and you still dont get it so I wont try anymore. As I said, time will tell. My prediction is the Mavs will not play in the finals in the next 3 years, Luka will request a trade and he will not win a ring with his new team as a #1. He is talented enough to do it but he is too lazy and undisciplined to take his career seriously enough to be one of the top players ever.

[ACMFFL]

They had more wins without Luka even before this game.

Besides, I am not saying they are better without him. What I am saying is they would be better if you add the return they could have gotten if they traded him. I am 100% sure of that. It would be extremely hard not to be better than a .50 team.

You're forgetting that Mavs were in WCF last year, I kinda doubt they can better that with bunch of average starters.

Are you going to be bringing up that overachievement for the next 10 years when Luka will keep getting eliminated in 1st or 2nd round? Trae was in ECF 2 years ago and they didnt get destroyed like by the Bucks (who won the C) like Dallas did by the Warriors last season. Does that prove that Trae can lead the team to the championship? If so, trade Luka for Trae and a couple other pieces.

Overachievement? That was a 50W team that matched up very bad with the most experienced team in the league, the C's had plus defenders at every positions but they struggled a lot too against them.
Atlanta confirmed in block the team that achieved that ECF, on the other hand we let our 2nd option go for nothing cause our FO wasn't smart enough to extend him when they could
I don't know how many teams could afford to lose their second best player for nothing and still be competitive at the highest levels.

[fuller4379]

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[Mavrelous]

You're forgetting that Mavs were in WCF last year, I kinda doubt they can better that with bunch of average starters.

Are you going to be bringing up that overachievement for the next 10 years when Luka will keep getting eliminated in 1st or 2nd round? Trae was in ECF 2 years ago and they didnt get destroyed like by the Bucks (who won the C) like Dallas did by the Warriors last season. Does that prove that Trae can lead the team to the championship? If so, trade Luka for Trae and a couple other pieces.

Overachievement? That was a 50W team who matched up very bad with the most experienced team in the league, the C's had plus defenders at every positions but they struggled a lot too against them.
Atlanta confirmed in block the team that achieved that ECF, on the other hand we let our 2nd option go for nothing cause our FO wasn't smart enough to extend him when they could
I don't know how many teams could afford to lose their second best player for nothing and still be competitive at the highest levels.

Also, Trae was destroyed one year later, in a much worse manner than Luka, Bucks beat the Hawks w/o Giannis in the ECF, I'm pretty positive on Mavs chances against Curry-less Warriors.
The team was overmatched in the last WCF, but the wings came from 13 PO games where they played 40 MPG because THJ was out and Luka was out for 3 games, and big man rotation was very short.
Keep Brunson, add a normal center, with THJ and Green, and I have a good feeling about a series redo.

[Bob8]

You just cant seem to understand what I am saying. Its fine, time will tell who was right. I just hope you will admit I was right all along

I understand very well what you're saying. My problem is with data you're making conclusions on. 10 games is just too small sample size to make any kind of conclusion.

It has nothing to do with the 10 games. I had the same opinion before that. Anyways, I explained my reasoning multiple times before and you still dont get it so I wont try anymore. As I said, time will tell. My prediction is the Mavs will not play in the finals in the next 3 years, Luka will request a trade and he will not win a ring with his new team as a #1. He is talented enough to do it but he is too lazy and undisciplined to take his career seriously enough to be one of the top players ever.

You started this thread how Mavs are winning more games without Luka after the trade. So our conversation is for sure about that period. Overall this's his far the best RS. If they qualify for playoffs, they won't be without chances against anyone. I don't see nobody being dominant in the West. And Luka has always played his best basketball in playoffs.

Everyone can have an opinion. Many good players have never won a ring, so you might be right there or not, time will tell.

I get your reasoning but I don't agree with you. I believe it's only normal to have different views about something.

[Mr B]

Am I the only one that finds this hilarious? They are really bad.

I was laughing so much at that Maxi pass. Probably woke the wife up.

And when Wright literally just handed the ball to the guy guarding him, how can you not just laugh at that. It was like watching the 3 Stooges out there playing basketball.

[Mr B]

I take those fouls if he puts up almost 30 and 15!!!

Exactly, as I've said all year - still leaps and bounds above anyone else we have at the 4 and 5.

This is the same fanbase that told people Moses Brown was legit...

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[Mr B]

They had more wins without Luka even before this game.

Besides, I am not saying they are better without him. What I am saying is they would be better if you add the return they could have gotten if they traded him. I am 100% sure of that. It would be extremely hard not to be better than a .50 team.

You're forgetting that Mavs were in WCF last year, I kinda doubt they can better that with bunch of average starters.

Are you going to be bringing up that overachievement for the next 10 years when Luka will keep getting eliminated in 1st or 2nd round? Trae was in ECF 2 years ago and they didnt get destroyed like by the Bucks (who won the C) like Dallas did by the Warriors last season. Does that prove that Trae can lead the team to the championship? If so, trade Luka for Trae and a couple other pieces.

So you’re saying that the Mavs should trade a Luka and build around Christian Wood? No wonder this board has lost so many good posters over the last couple of years.

[Mavrelous]

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[XTraderXL]

You're forgetting that Mavs were in WCF last year, I kinda doubt they can better that with bunch of average starters.

Are you going to be bringing up that overachievement for the next 10 years when Luka will keep getting eliminated in 1st or 2nd round? Trae was in ECF 2 years ago and they didnt get destroyed like by the Bucks (who won the C) like Dallas did by the Warriors last season. Does that prove that Trae can lead the team to the championship? If so, trade Luka for Trae and a couple other pieces.

So you’re saying that the Mavs should trade a Luka and build around Christian Wood? No wonder this board has lost so many good posters over the last couple of years.

Only a complete imbecile would interpret my post like that. Case in point.

[kacey ring]

It looks to me that Kleber's inbound pass was designed by coaching staff, he has never looked anywhere else.

It absolutely was.

Part of me wants to blame Wood. His separation from his defender wasn’t the best and seemed mistimed. He didn’t even try to jump for the pass and instead gave up pretty quickly and just flailed his arms.

I still think Kleber put too much on it, but Wood could’ve gave a better attempt on catching it or atleast touching it.

[Bob8]

It looks to me that Kleber's inbound pass was designed by coaching staff, he has never looked anywhere else.

It absolutely was.

Part of me wants to blame Wood. His separation from his defender wasn’t the best and seemed mistimed. He didn’t even try to jump for the pass and instead gave up pretty quickly and just flailed his arms.

I still think Kleber put too much on it, but Wood could’ve gave a better attempt on catching it or atleast touching it.

The question is, why even risk pass like that? Just put the ball as safely as possible in the court, even if they foul you immediately, you hit both or just miss second FT and game is over. You're not gaining anything with pass that difficult.