Finals 2024 - G4 - Mavs Vs Celtics (Friday, 8:30 PM EST)

[GermanFan120]

t's kinda big here too, with your total domination. Now remains just 1 big step for you, learn how to quote.

Hey troll you werent here the whole game ,you're a regular Jonny come lately with your snide remarks that have nothing to do with tonights game.

If you quote like everyone else, we can see notification that you quoted us and can give you an adequate answer.
Don't you think it's strange that you're the only person who doesn't know how to quote?

Unfortunately my body is not as young as in my youth years and I can't live without sleeping 3x a week. Games on Mars are at 2.30 AM.

World is not fair. It's like you cannot teach Josh Green basketball IQ.

[GermanFan120]

I honestly think KP will be back in G5.

He is hurt but he is still available.

[daoneandonly]

Hey troll you werent here the whole game ,you're a regular Jonny come lately with your snide remarks that have nothing to do with tonights game.

If you quote like everyone else, we can see notification that you quoted us and can give you an adequate answer.
Don't you think it's strange that you're the only person who doesn't know how to quote?

Unfortunately my body is not as young as in my youth years and I can't live without sleeping 3x a week. Games on Mars are at 2.30 AM.

World is not fair. It's like you cannot teach Josh Green basketball IQ.

I swear Josh Green has the most blockable shot in the NBA. More often than not he drives to the lane erratically and if it's not a turnover, it's a block

[Apz]

Imagine its easier for everyine if the guys outside lukai doesnt shoot 9% from 3. Bit worried tho, thj hitting 5 3s in 4th might been our doom

[ozwizard8]

First game of the series where REFS weren't sold out to Boston. Thier f'in media is despicable. All those Bill Simmons, ESPN and shitheads. Celtics live on REFs calls. In every important stretch, refs supported Celtics with 3-4 calls in a row in earlier games. And giving easy fouls on Luka in G3 was ridiculous. Watch the Olympics, watch Euroleague, Spanish League, or any previous NBA Finals. Fouling out the best player this cheaply would never happen. Can you imagine Lebron getting fouled out in NBA Finals? Lebron did tackled GSW players before with no call. The star players would even get a favorable whistle, but in Luka's case, refs just acted like they were directed to one thing.

And the issue is the soft foul-call policy only for pro-Celtics calls. Luka, Kyrie weren't able to get much calls in first 3 games. Especially when Mavs make a run, refs swallowed their whistles to bail out Celtics. Luka complaining may look bad but the root-cause is not Luka complaining but REFS not calling obvious fouls for Luka.

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In G2, Mavs were coming back from 18-pt deficit, PJ Washington fouled in last minute but not got the FTs. Obvious foul but no call.

Going forward, its all about REFS being fair or not. When Jrue Holiday-Brown-Tatum gets 'touch foul calls', then they no longer feel pressure, and simply go inside and try a weird layup attempt for FTs. Mavs defense tries to avoid any contact, then Celtics players starts to get comfortable open shots. Meanwhile on Mavs offense, if REFs let Celtics to hug, hack, push Luka-Kyrie then they dont need to bring double team hence no easy shots for Mavs role players. G4, they called obvious fouls to the Luka and its suddenly 40-pt blow out. Celtics live on REFS. Carlisle was right!

I hope Kidd would tell the defense not to go easy. If NBA referees, the Boston media cartel is so powerful, at least lose with fouling out and making Celtics shoot 50 FTs.

[tleikheen]

Before yesterdays game I posted I just wanted to see Exum,Lively ,Hardy coming off the bench. We saw Lively and Exum do that and they were ready and both balled out.
Green is the one that came in and was all over the floor defensively and has cemented along with Exum and Lively the bench rotation minutes. Adding Maxi in there as PJ's backup is needed but I have no idea why Kidd has Maxi playing any minutes as the Center when clearly Boston attacks the basket when Maxi is guarding the rim.
It definitly looked like Luka was happy having Exum as the 3rd guard in with him and Kyrie .

[Teffer10]

The paint is where Dallas can dominate the series and people here want Lively to shoot **** 3s. Insane.

Send a messagge to Kidd please, according to his standard he will understand it in September 2026.

We would dominate the paint even more if Lively ever becomes a decent 3pt shooter.
Luka would be impossible to stop in the paint whether they post him or he decides to do layup drills.
KP would be MVP material if he didn't get injured everytime he gets touched.

Luka is unstoppable right now. No matter what.

What??? KP MVP material???

He can't even make PO as first man in Washington or New York. Stop drink my friend.

KP best season of his career is this one and he play like a 3#/4# guy.

Lively can dominate the paint for a decade... I take a solid big with inside scoring over KP, Bargnani or Towns of this world.

You are talking about develop 3 points shoot when he has to work first on his post game, mid range and touch around the rim.
The 3s are the ultimate step for a C and it's not so necessary, it's a plus.

Not sure if you have ever taken a glance at our roster but we basically have no 2-way players on this roster.
PJ is about the best.
Lively would be far and away the best 2-way on the team if he ever added 3 point shooting to his repertoire.

Hoping that an elite rim protector doesn't add something to his overall offensive game is beyond mind boggling to me.
That's about as ridiculous as hoping that OMax never develops shot-blocking skills or that Hardy never develops penetrating skills.

[41Dirk41]

We would dominate the paint even more if Lively ever becomes a decent 3pt shooter.
Luka would be impossible to stop in the paint whether they post him or he decides to do layup drills.
KP would be MVP material if he didn't get injured everytime he gets touched.

Luka is unstoppable right now. No matter what.

What??? KP MVP material???

He can't even make PO as first man in Washington or New York. Stop drink my friend.

KP best season of his career is this one and he play like a 3#/4# guy.

Lively can dominate the paint for a decade... I take a solid big with inside scoring over KP, Bargnani or Towns of this world.

You are talking about develop 3 points shoot when he has to work first on his post game, mid range and touch around the rim.
The 3s are the ultimate step for a C and it's not so necessary, it's a plus.

Not sure if you have ever taken a glance at our roster but we basically have no 2-way players on this roster.
PJ is about the best.
Lively would be far and away the best 2-way on the team if he ever added 3 point shooting to his repertoire.

Hoping that an elite rim protector doesn't add something to his overall offensive game is beyond mind boggling to me.
That's about as ridiculous as hoping that OMax never develops shot-blocking skills or that Hardy never develops penetrating skills.

Lively has huge potential but he has to add post moves first and then 3 points shooting because right now he has like 0 offensive skills other dunk.
I don't want to play 5 out with Lively on the court, it's just stupid.
Trade for a stretch5 and play some minutes with him.

You talked about Chet, KP and Wemby.
Wemby is a superstar in the making. Can't compare him with noone in history but if Sas will develop him in a 3points player i'm the happiest man in the world.
Chet is the skinnest and weak 7footers i've never seen in my life. He can't play the post.
KP is made of glass so keep him outside the paint is necessary.

I immagine if Pop had asked to Duncan to learn shoots for 3

Media are making a brainstorming to people

Bigs has to play as bigs.

[Teffer10]

Luka is unstoppable right now. No matter what.

What??? KP MVP material???

He can't even make PO as first man in Washington or New York. Stop drink my friend.

KP best season of his career is this one and he play like a 3#/4# guy.

Lively can dominate the paint for a decade... I take a solid big with inside scoring over KP, Bargnani or Towns of this world.

You are talking about develop 3 points shoot when he has to work first on his post game, mid range and touch around the rim.
The 3s are the ultimate step for a C and it's not so necessary, it's a plus.

Not sure if you have ever taken a glance at our roster but we basically have no 2-way players on this roster.
PJ is about the best.
Lively would be far and away the best 2-way on the team if he ever added 3 point shooting to his repertoire.

Hoping that an elite rim protector doesn't add something to his overall offensive game is beyond mind boggling to me.
That's about as ridiculous as hoping that OMax never develops shot-blocking skills or that Hardy never develops penetrating skills.

Lively has huge potential but he has to add post moves first and then 3 points shooting because right now he has like 0 offensive skills other dunk.
I don't want to play 5 out with Lively on the court, it's just stupid.
Trade for a stretch5 and play some minutes with him.

You talked about Chet, KP and Wemby.
Wemby is a superstar in the making. Can't compare him with noone in history but if Sas will develop him in a 3points player i'm the happiest man in the world.
Chet is the skinnest and weak 7footers i've never seen in my life. He can't play the post.
KP is made of glass so keep him outside the paint is necessary.

I immagine if Pop had asked to Duncan to learn shoots for 3

Media are making a brainstorming to people

Bigs has to play as bigs.

Dirk might want to debate you about that.
Imagine how many championship rings Dirk would have if he had half the defensive skills Lively has.

Elite shot blockers who can shoot 3s have been virtually nonexistent.
That is why KP would have definitely been in MVP conversations if he hadn't had such an injury riddled career.
Wemby and Chet have those skills and it remains to be seen how high their ceilings are.
Lively has shown some signs of being able to develop long range shooting so limiting his development to a traditional low post big would be a disservice to him and a huge missed opportunity for the Mavs.

[tleikheen]

Mavs dont have to have the same type of roster as Boston ,these are two different teams with different strengths and weaknesses . Whoever imposes their advantage on the other team will win the series .
Everyone is seeing what being 4"s taller than Boston's Centers is doing for DLively .He should be getting rebounds with that advantage.Gafford has supreme athleticism and hops over Horford and Tilman. This is the advantage Mave have over the Celtics .
Boston is trying to keep the rebounds and paint scoring closer and the Mavs are trying to contain Boston's 3 pt shooting but the loss of KP has let the Mavs centers move back into the paint.

[41Dirk41]

Not sure if you have ever taken a glance at our roster but we basically have no 2-way players on this roster.
PJ is about the best.
Lively would be far and away the best 2-way on the team if he ever added 3 point shooting to his repertoire.

Hoping that an elite rim protector doesn't add something to his overall offensive game is beyond mind boggling to me.
That's about as ridiculous as hoping that OMax never develops shot-blocking skills or that Hardy never develops penetrating skills.

Lively has huge potential but he has to add post moves first and then 3 points shooting because right now he has like 0 offensive skills other dunk.
I don't want to play 5 out with Lively on the court, it's just stupid.
Trade for a stretch5 and play some minutes with him.

You talked about Chet, KP and Wemby.
Wemby is a superstar in the making. Can't compare him with noone in history but if Sas will develop him in a 3points player i'm the happiest man in the world.
Chet is the skinnest and weak 7footers i've never seen in my life. He can't play the post.
KP is made of glass so keep him outside the paint is necessary.

I immagine if Pop had asked to Duncan to learn shoots for 3

Media are making a brainstorming to people

Bigs has to play as bigs.

Dirk might want to debate you about that.
Imagine how many championship rings Dirk would have if he had half the defensive skills Lively has.

Elite shot blockers who can shoot 3s have been virtually nonexistent.
That is why KP would have definitely been in MVP conversations if he hadn't had such an injury riddled career.
Wemby and Chet have those skills and it remains to be seen how high their ceilings are.
Lively has shown some signs of being able to develop long range shooting so limiting his development to a traditional low post big would be a disservice to him and a huge missed opportunity for the Mavs.

I can understand your point but i saw too too many good bigs wasted their career thinking that they are the new Dirk...

[41Dirk41]

Mavs dont have to have the same type of roster as Boston ,these are two different teams with different strengths and weaknesses . Whoever imposes their advantage on the other team will win the series .
Everyone is seeing what being 4"s taller than Boston's Centers is doing for DLively .He should be getting rebounds with that advantage.Gafford has supreme athleticism and hops over Horford and Tilman. This is the advantage Mave have over the Celtics .
Boston is trying to keep the rebounds and paint scoring closer and the Mavs are trying to contain Boston's 3 pt shooting but the loss of KP has let the Mavs centers move back into the paint.

Agree.

Maybe Kidd understood it after 3 games...

[HMFFL]

We need to involve Jaden Hardy more and allow him more shot attempts. We need him to make a statement, a name for himself.

[tleikheen]

We need to involve Jaden Hardy more and allow him more shot attempts. We need him to make a statement, a name for himself.

This is hardly the time to get Jadon Hardy shots in the Finals. Exum can play in a 3 guard lineup with Kyrie and Luka which Hardy can't .The bench looks to be Lively,Exum and Green now.

[Teffer10]

Lively has huge potential but he has to add post moves first and then 3 points shooting because right now he has like 0 offensive skills other dunk.
I don't want to play 5 out with Lively on the court, it's just stupid.
Trade for a stretch5 and play some minutes with him.

You talked about Chet, KP and Wemby.
Wemby is a superstar in the making. Can't compare him with noone in history but if Sas will develop him in a 3points player i'm the happiest man in the world.
Chet is the skinnest and weak 7footers i've never seen in my life. He can't play the post.
KP is made of glass so keep him outside the paint is necessary.

I immagine if Pop had asked to Duncan to learn shoots for 3

Media are making a brainstorming to people

Bigs has to play as bigs.

Dirk might want to debate you about that.
Imagine how many championship rings Dirk would have if he had half the defensive skills Lively has.

Elite shot blockers who can shoot 3s have been virtually nonexistent.
That is why KP would have definitely been in MVP conversations if he hadn't had such an injury riddled career.
Wemby and Chet have those skills and it remains to be seen how high their ceilings are.
Lively has shown some signs of being able to develop long range shooting so limiting his development to a traditional low post big would be a disservice to him and a huge missed opportunity for the Mavs.

I can understand your point but i saw too too many good bigs wasted their career thinking that they are the new Dirk...

Yeah, most, if not all of those supposed Dirk clones didnt have the rebounding/defensive
Lively has.
Lively will never be a pure shooter, but if he can become somewhat of a threat, it would open up our offense and create mismatches in so many ways without compromising anything on the defensive end.