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Re: NBA Finals, Game 1 May 31, 2011: Mavs at Heat 

Post#161 » by Fojin » Wed Jun 1, 2011 11:30 am

I have a feeling that Butler might indeed come back for the Finals because the Mavs really need him (even if he's not at 100%).

As for Dirk's injury, I think it will have a major influence on his jump shot, and thus, his playing style. He either will become more passive and the Mavs will get swept; or, hopefully, he will drive even more and try to get free throws, because his free throw routine won't be altered by his injury. If he can go to the line a lot, the Mavs might still have a chance.
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Post#162 » by Imadogg » Wed Jun 1, 2011 11:57 am

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Post#163 » by Maverick86 » Wed Jun 1, 2011 12:16 pm

Fojin wrote:I have a feeling that Butler might indeed come back for the Finals because the Mavs really need him (even if he's not at 100%).

As for Dirk's injury, I think it will have a major influence on his jump shot, and thus, his playing style. He either will become more passive and the Mavs will get swept; or, hopefully, he will drive even more and try to get free throws, because his free throw routine won't be altered by his injury. If he can go to the line a lot, the Mavs might still have a chance.


He's not coming back and I wish he would stop doing drills and working out with the team like he's really gonna play.
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Post#164 » by arkuo » Wed Jun 1, 2011 12:31 pm

with the way terry, peja and barea disappeared, im surprised it wasnt a blowout. but the mavs kept it close. guess that's one thing that they could take away from this loss.

heat has more firepower. that's 3 all-stars against one in dirk. they just happen to have more options when closing out games. there's really no way to shut them down. what dallas could do is improve on their defensive rotations. LBJ and wade really exposed and exploited this caveat in dallas' defense. during the OKC series, dallas would do the same and double team Durant and or Westbrook. It just so happened that the other guys on that team couldn't get their shots to fall when left open. But this Miami team just had too much firepower. Hopefully, with game 1 out of the way, Dallas could find its way back and solve this. team defense is gonna win it for them. cant play one on one, or double team without rotating properly. oh and terry has to go off like he did during the lakers' series.
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Post#165 » by ASIMO » Wed Jun 1, 2011 12:45 pm

Do you know Barea is the 1st-2nd option while he is on the court ?

last night...
Dirk...14FGA/32min
Barea... 14FGA/32min
Marion...11FGA/32min
JET...10FGA/32min

In this PO Barea takes huge responsibility in this team, even more than JET, Kidd and Marion.

1) Always having the ball, 2) he takes that amount of shots 3) mostly along with Dirk.
then, Mavs is losing with him.

Incredible liabilty and freedom. i dont know how many players can play in this circumstance in the history. That player must get superior individual stats under the unblievable Love by FO. :lol:

Whether he gets good individual stats or not, Im pretty sure Barea is the problem child this series as long as he plays like a franchise player. Absolutely its a big big misstake by Mavs.
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Post#166 » by c2asante » Wed Jun 1, 2011 1:53 pm

Sulleigh wrote:We won't play that bad every game. As bad as we were, we kept it close until the end. The Heat are not infallible; if we play like we did against LA we can win this series.


The problem for the Mavs is the HEAT is not LA, and they are much btter than they played tonight offensively and defensively. The Mavs certainly have the talent to win a game or two but the sad truth is if both teams play at their highest potential Miami wins rather easy. The reason is not the refs, the reason is Dirk is the Mavs far and away best player but on the HEAT he would be the third option at best. When you get deep in the playoffs the team with the most talent typically wins.
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Post#167 » by ahonui06 » Wed Jun 1, 2011 6:35 pm

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Sulleigh wrote:We won't play that bad every game. As bad as we were, we kept it close until the end. The Heat are not infallible; if we play like we did against LA we can win this series.


The problem for the Mavs is the HEAT is not LA, and they are much btter than they played tonight offensively and defensively. The Mavs certainly have the talent to win a game or two but the sad truth is if both teams play at their highest potential Miami wins rather easy. The reason is not the refs, the reason is Dirk is the Mavs far and away best player but on the HEAT he would be the third option at best. When you get deep in the playoffs the team with the most talent typically wins.


DIRK would be a 1st option on the Heat. You're living in a dream world.
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Post#168 » by ahonui06 » Wed Jun 1, 2011 6:36 pm

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Ice32 wrote:I dont see what the major concern is?? Its his non-shooting hand...It wont effect his jumper that much. How is activating Butler and Roddy going to help Dirk? Both those guys are not 100% and havent played in a long time. I agree that Dirk needs help, but 2 players recovering from injury wont help

Maybe I misinterpret the extend of the injury, but raptured means to me he can not control the movement of the middle finger anymore. So much to left handed layups or even post ups to some degree. I cant helpbut think this will limit his impact a great deal. Though I would love to be completely wrong here.

A lineup of Kidd, Stevenson, Marion, and Chandler is not going to work with 80% Dirk IMO.


DIRK is a stud so stop worrying about his finger. He will be fine.

The clowns are the ones you should be worried about. You know the 3 stooges who went 4 for 21 in Game 1 and don't play any defense EVER.
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Post#169 » by 2011Champs » Wed Jun 1, 2011 6:56 pm

I worry some about Dirk's finger just because his shot release will be altered if his finger is in a full splint. Dirk will bring it injured or not but this is not the best time not to be 100%.
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Post#170 » by 2011Champs » Wed Jun 1, 2011 6:57 pm

epecially since it looks like we will need Dirk to score 50 for Mavs to win
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Post#171 » by Teffer10 » Wed Jun 1, 2011 7:22 pm

The concern of this possible championship matchup was the only reason why I wanted the Mavs to trade for SJax back in Feb.
Would love to have him right now.
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Post#172 » by Chris435 » Wed Jun 1, 2011 7:26 pm

Westbrook36 wrote:Your offense is fine, you just had a bad night. You scored all playoffs against anyone whenever you wanted. You just had a bad game. You guys rebound after losses well. You've only had 2 in the last 12 games before tonight. That says something.


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I've been seeing you in just about all the series giving all the teams vs the Heat a little boost in morale.

At this point, I just want Dallas to win game 2. That's all they really need to learn from game 1.
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Post#173 » by c2asante » Wed Jun 1, 2011 7:54 pm

ahonui06 wrote:
c2asante wrote:
Sulleigh wrote:We won't play that bad every game. As bad as we were, we kept it close until the end. The Heat are not infallible; if we play like we did against LA we can win this series.


The problem for the Mavs is the HEAT is not LA, and they are much btter than they played tonight offensively and defensively. The Mavs certainly have the talent to win a game or two but the sad truth is if both teams play at their highest potential Miami wins rather easy. The reason is not the refs, the reason is Dirk is the Mavs far and away best player but on the HEAT he would be the third option at best. When you get deep in the playoffs the team with the most talent typically wins.


DIRK would be a 1st option on the Heat. You're living in a dream world.


I respectfully disagree with you Sir and will ignore the "dreamworld"snide comment. I understand that you dont like the HEAT and you probably wish it were true, but in your heart you know Dirk would be the third best player on the HEAT just as he was the third best player in the game last night. Against OKC that gets it done, against a team with two players in the top 5 and a third player in the top 10 that wont cut it.
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Post#174 » by 2011Champs » Wed Jun 1, 2011 8:12 pm

^^^ I give you Lebron>Dirk but I don't believe for a second Wade>Dirk
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Post#175 » by ahonui06 » Wed Jun 1, 2011 8:47 pm

I disagree with your Sir.

DIRK scored 10 points in the 4th quarter, shot 50% from the field and 100% from the line in that quarter, but his teammates just missed open shots.

DIRK was the most clutch out there last night. It just so happens that Miami has two all-stars that can close out games.

DIRK has no one.
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Post#176 » by sweet daddy » Wed Jun 1, 2011 9:57 pm

DesignatedDrunk wrote:epecially since it looks like we will need Dirk to score 50 for Mavs to win


Nah, they lost by 4 buckets last night, even though they shot 37% and were outrebounded by 10. It was a winnable game. If we made 4 more shots in the same number of attempts we still only shoot 43%. Does that not sound doable?

Many open shots were missed. Poor rebounding. And still we only lost by 8.

I think Miami probably knows they got away with a mediocre game last night, and could easily have lost that game with a little better effort from Dallas. They won't make that mistake again, me thinks. It gets way tougher from here, and not just because they won game 1. They won a game that they didn't play that well in, and they'll take confidence from it.

You just can't let opportunities like that slip away in a championship series when you're the road team. For me, it was a bad loss. I hope the Mavs show the same resiliency they've shown in the playoffs so far. Otherwise this isn't going to be pretty ...
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Post#177 » by BiggieBig » Wed Jun 1, 2011 10:33 pm

Actually Hollinger talks in a very positive way about the mavs' performance and prospects for the next games. YES, that John Hollinger, alleged lifetime-mavs-hater. Very remarkable considering that the Heat won Game 1 :wink:

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Post#178 » by cmavswin » Thu Jun 2, 2011 1:21 am

c2asante wrote:I respectfully disagree with you Sir and will ignore the "dreamworld"snide comment. I understand that you dont like the HEAT and you probably wish it were true, but in your heart you know Dirk would be the third best player on the HEAT just as he was the third best player in the game last night. Against OKC that gets it done, against a team with two players in the top 5 and a third player in the top 10 that wont cut it.


Two players in the top 5 is correct but Chris Bosh is not and never will be a top 10 player in this league. Chris Bosh is the most overrated player in the game and he proved that in Toronto the Heat could trade him for a bag of beans and they still would be right where they are at. Juwan Howard=Chris Bosh!
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Post#179 » by LongLiveHinkie » Thu Jun 2, 2011 3:12 am

I don't think the Mavs would have gotten here if they had "no one" besides Dirk. They may not have another superstar, but they have plenty of high quality players up and down the roster. They have one player who can get 30+ on any given night, but they also have about 5 other players who can get 15+ on any given night.

The Mavs may not have go to guys other than Dirk, but they can keep rolling out scoring options. In Miami they have 3 guys and if Chalmers isn't scoring, their scoring ends there. Haslem will get you about 8 points, and Bibby and Anthony combined probably don't even score 10 per night in this series.

If the Mavs hit their jumpers they will be fine. I'm not just talking about 3 pointers either. Last night Barea was missing 13 footers and such.
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Post#180 » by Soupman » Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:11 pm

Everyone is acting like we lost by 30 or 22 or something. We shot poorly and lost by 10.
We took their best shot.
We held all 3 of the "big 3" below their season average.
Dirk scored above his season average.

Its just our bench didn't come to play.

Terry 0 pts in the second half? wut?
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