RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Hornets (Sund, 1PM EST)

[ejs78]

Lakers did such a huge favor to Mavs, but this team decided to just botch 2 games vs a tanking team.

Id say the Bulls did us a huge favor.

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[Archx]

Lakers did such a huge favor to Mavs, but this team decided to just botch 2 games vs a tanking team.

Id say the Bulls did us a huge favor.

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Indeed but i went with sarcasm

[mxr2000]

Is there a way to put Javale in the inactive list and sign for the rest of the season Moses Brown? We need a big guy that make some espace on the paint an he can also score he did a great work with the Clippers this season I rather have Moses Brown playing Center on this team than McGee that is not playing or doing nothing then at the soon to end for the Mavs season I want this team to trade McGee for a 2nd round talent if possible get back Dodo on this team and make possible that Myles Turner to become a member of the mavs

[kacey ring]

The fan base doesn’t want to hear this, but I would tear this team down and do a full and complete rebuild. I wouldn’t offer Kyrie a penny and I would trade Luka for a king’s ransom. Then I would tank. Do exactly what OKC and Utah is doing. Do what Boston did five to seven years ago.

Let Bertans expire. Don’t offer Kyrie anything. Let THJ expire. Trade Luka for tons of picks and a promising talent or two. This team needs cap space and picks. Tank for the high picks. I’m not convinced a magician could fix the issues this team has. It’s full of bad contracts, no picks, and potentially four players eating up ALL of the cap space. Rebuild now.

You’re crazy. Luka is a generational talent. He’s the type of player you tank for, not trade.

The annual tanking for high draft picks is fools good. Philly did and what do they have to show for it? Yeah they have Embiid, but still no championship. They started tanking almost 10 years ago now.

I’m fine with us losing out this season. At this point we need that top 10 pick. Whether there is a big/defender worth taking (GG Jackson or Walker from Houston) or it could be packaged to get a vet remains to be seen. We got some nice expiring contracts next year too.

I think we need to resign Kyrie and beef up the frontline and make another run. This isn’t the time to relinquish talent when the 3 best teams are in the East.

For you discount Embiid is silly. He’s the front runner for MVP right now. “Oh, they ONLY got the front runner for MVP by tanking.”

OKC has been tanking for years and they are better set up to succeed than Dallas. That’s without Holmgrem not playing a single game this season.

Sorry, was by no means discounting Embiid as a player. My main point is that all of the tanking has yet to turn into a championship. 76ers haven’t even made it to the ECF, but the Mavs have during the same period.

The Mavs seem closer to being a contender than being in blow up mode to me.

If Mavs can lure Kyrie back and get an off-season together with him and Luka then it could do wonders. Players still respect Kyrie around the league, so maybe we can get a solid big guy to jump on board with the mid-level exception.

Consider all the drama Kyrie and the Nets faced in the off-season and in-season, yet they still climbed up to within 1 game in the East this year! Then Durant gets hurt and the wheels fall off. So Irving can still be a part of a winning culture.

Outside of the player personnel upgrades needed, the Mavs need an assistant to enforce better defensive principles. If Casey gets let go by the Pistons then he absolutely needs to be on Cuban’s and Kidd’s radar. He’s the type of guy Kidd needs on his staff. Casey would probably be thrilled to return to Dallas as the “defensive coordinator” in what could be one of his last coaching gigs.

[Absinthe]

I’ve yet to see that the Kyrie/Luka pairing can work. Luka took more three pointers than Kyrie took field goals. That is absolute insanity. Luka took 16 threes and Kyrie attempted 15 total shots.

[kacey ring]

I want Luka to stay, I think he's top 3 player in the league, but the FO has **** up any chance of building a team around him, I'd listen to offers.

You will never get equal value in return... and you gotta gamble on draft picks and mavs record ain't great drafting.

This is a big sticking point for me. Mavs miss on guys every year. Maybe Josh Green keeps improving, but Bane is already 2 years ahead of him. Buying the SRP for Hardy was pretty sweet though.

Maybe we can trade Luka for 20 second round picks and build our roster that way.

We seem to do better with second round picks.

[fuller4379]

I want Luka to stay, I think he's top 3 player in the league, but the FO has **** up any chance of building a team around him, I'd listen to offers.

You will never get equal value in return... and you gotta gamble on draft picks and mavs record ain't great drafting.

This is a big sticking point for me. Mavs miss on guys every year. Maybe Josh Green keeps improving, but Bane is already 2 years ahead of him. Buying the SRP for Hardy was pretty sweet though.

Maybe we can trade Luka for 20 second round picks and build our roster that way.

We seem to do better with second round picks.

I am not sure why you are comparing Green to Bane. Unfortunately, the Mavs didn’t get a shot at Bane because he was picked one ahead of the Mavericks.

A better comparison would be Green to Bey. At this point I would much rather have Green.

[kacey ring]

You will never get equal value in return... and you gotta gamble on draft picks and mavs record ain't great drafting.

This is a big sticking point for me. Mavs miss on guys every year. Maybe Josh Green keeps improving, but Bane is already 2 years ahead of him. Buying the SRP for Hardy was pretty sweet though.

Maybe we can trade Luka for 20 second round picks and build our roster that way.

We seem to do better with second round picks.

I am not sure why you are comparing Green to Bane. Unfortunately, the Mavs didn’t get a shot at Bane because he was picked one ahead of the Mavericks.

A better comparison would be Green to Bey. At this point I would much rather have Green.

Check yourself there, bud. Bane was the 30th pick in the draft.

[fuller4379]

This is a big sticking point for me. Mavs miss on guys every year. Maybe Josh Green keeps improving, but Bane is already 2 years ahead of him. Buying the SRP for Hardy was pretty sweet though.

Maybe we can trade Luka for 20 second round picks and build our roster that way.

We seem to do better with second round picks.

I am not sure why you are comparing Green to Bane. Unfortunately, the Mavs didn’t get a shot at Bane because he was picked one ahead of the Mavericks.

A better comparison would be Green to Bey. At this point I would much rather have Green.

Check yourself there, bud. Bane was the 30th pick in the draft.

The Mavs was the first pick of round 2.

[41Dirk41]

With all due respect, I still dont get the logic behind giving up on a proven generational talent (that doesn't grow on tree, just sayin) just to have the hope to find another Luka in the draft.
I prefer the sure thing over the mistery box.

Delusional fans...

[Mavrelous]

Most important thing now is to keep Kidd until the end of season, we need every loss.

[Teffer10]

I am not sure why you are comparing Green to Bane. Unfortunately, the Mavs didn’t get a shot at Bane because he was picked one ahead of the Mavericks.

A better comparison would be Green to Bey. At this point I would much rather have Green.

Check yourself there, bud. Bane was the 30th pick in the draft.

The Mavs was the first pick of round 2.

The Mavs could have taken Bane at 18 instead of Green but nobody projected Bane to go that high.
Now speculation at the time, the Mavs loved Terry and probably would have taken him before Bane at 31 even if Memphis wouldnt have traded up for Bane.

The whole Bane complaining is crying over spilled milk and Mavs fans need to move on.

Green is turning out to be a decent draft decision.

[arkuo]

The guys who are crying and saying Mavs could have taken Bane here and there are just crying over split milk. Cry harder because Dallas could have gotten Giannis. Cry harder because Dallas could have gotten Steph Curry or Manu Ginobili in the 2nd round. The list goes on and on. Why are you crying for freakin Desmond Bane? Do that for Giannis. Now let me hand you guys a bucket for your tears. LOL

[oldshoolballer]

No shame in losing to the powerhouse Hornets. Kidd tried his best.

[Bob8]

Crying or not crying, this is roster Mavs have. Luka, 2 young players with some potential, 2 soon to be FA, few role players, few bad contracts and more than few unplayable players. 2 FRPs and almost all SRPs already traded. It's difficult to blame management to not draft always right, but we can easily say that their overall decisions making was disastrous after 2018 draft.

[arkuo]

Look guys. Despite having bad teammates, the Mavs have no business losing to the Hornets TWICE. Mavs have two All NBA talent on the roster. Despite having bad teammates, those two alone could have towed the whole to at least 1 win against the freakin Hornets. The timing and the manner that they lost says something's gotta give. Either Kidd is getting replaced, or Nico is getting replaced. One if not both.

You just dont normally lose to the hornets twice in a row despite having all NBA talent on the roster. There are off court issues the team has to deal with first. Not just the on court stuff.

[Mavrelous]

Look guys. Despite having bad teammates, the Mavs have no business losing to the Hornets TWICE. Mavs have two All NBA talent on the roster. Despite having bad teammates, those two alone could have towed the whole to at least 1 win against the freakin Hornets. The timing and the manner that they lost says something's gotta give. Either Kidd is getting replaced, or Nico is getting replaced. One if not both.

You just dont normally lose to the hornets twice in a row despite having all NBA talent on the roster. There are off court issues the team has to deal with first. Not just the on court stuff.

The Hornets are the camel that broke the camel back, if you remember last year, they lost to the Hornets and the Wizards late in the year and it cost them the 3rd seed, but it's losing to the Hornets twice after the horrible season they had.
Kidd has lost the locker room, Luka looked like someone who didn't want to be there in the1st quarter, Kidd is gone, he terribly mismanaged the roster he had, Nico probably also, who built a bad roster, and some hard decisions need to be made in the off season, including whether to hold onto Luka and risk another meltdown next season or trade him for the best trade package in league history and rebuild.

[Bob8]

Look guys. Despite having bad teammates, the Mavs have no business losing to the Hornets TWICE. Mavs have two All NBA talent on the roster. Despite having bad teammates, those two alone could have towed the whole to at least 1 win against the freakin Hornets. The timing and the manner that they lost says something's gotta give. Either Kidd is getting replaced, or Nico is getting replaced. One if not both.

You just dont normally lose to the hornets twice in a row despite having all NBA talent on the roster. There are off court issues the team has to deal with first. Not just the on court stuff.

They would, if others could defend a little and rebound. You don't need great offensive players beside Luka and Kyrie to win those games, but they need to do something in D. And that is not only the case in last games, Powell as starting C is averaging 4 rebounds. They are far the worst rebounding team in Nba, dead last with 38.7 per game and the only one under 40. You can't win against anyone, if you can't defend and rebound.

[daoneandonly]

Glad we have such intelligent posters on here who insisted the Kyrie trade was a steal for the Mavs and Josh Green was a great pick. Luka is as immature a superstar as the NBA has ever seen. Losing to Charlotte twice, the worst team in the NBA

Let's not ever put Luka in the same category as Dirk. Dirk was a leader, took this seriously, hit the gym, worked on his game, and didn't eat like a slob. Luka on the other hand, has played in as many games as our former always injured boy Porzingis (who's better wihtout him), Brunson didnt want to play with him any longer.

Josh Green is Desmond Bane's stepchild, such a loser on the court. But 41Dirk, Bob, and Arch will still clamor to him because he has ties to Australia, and they on our side of the world. And Beu Beau still knows zero

We should have traded LUka for Tatum when there was a chance, now even that ship has sailed

[GTR11]

Most important thing now is to keep Kidd until the end of season, we need every loss.

Kidd went to CF and had this team as a 4th seed until trade. I see you guys not familiar with Ramadan Kyrie at all.