Finals 2024 - G2 - Mavs @ Celtics (Sunday., 8:00PMEST)

[HMFFL]

Apparently not close enough, he was missing shots he normally makes.

The entire team is except for Luka. Wakeup Bob!

Yes, but exceptions are a little higher for him than for role players. And he's a little more capable of making those shots than role players.

Bob, how many points did Boston score off the 8 turnovers Luka had in game two? Let's hold others accountable for the defeat. Regardless, of the narrative ESPN wanted to create, Luka is the leader, and 8 turnovers is excessive.

I assume you know the answer without having to look it up since you're the only one watching the game closely.

[Bob8]

The entire team is except for Luka. Wakeup Bob!

Yes, but exceptions are a little higher for him than for role players. And he's a little more capable of making those shots than role players.

Bob, how many points did Boston score off the 8 turnovers Luka had in game two? Let's hold others accountable for the defeat. Regardless, of the narrative ESPN wanted to create, Luka is the leader, and 8 turnovers is excessive.

I assume you know the answer without having to look it up since you're the only one watching the game closely.

He had 7, 1 was because of PJ. I would say 3 too much considering his usage. And he missed 4 FTs, which is around 2-3 too much, considering how good FT shooter he's. He was far from perfect, but man averaging 14 points on 35% Fg is totally different level of awfulness.

It's Finals, those are games that really matters and Kyrie is here for scoring points. He's not doing much else and is getting 38 mio for that. There's no such thing as 1 on 1 D is too good. He's not doubled or trapped. He's having shots, he's more than capable of making them, which is kinda good news for game 3.

[41Dirk41]

I agree with Bob, i can expect that DJJ and PJ (or Gafford & Lively) are a little bit scared about play in the Finals but not Kyrie.

He is paid a lot for his leadership and exp too.

He took good shoots, i don't know if he is in slump, he has mind breakdown against the Celtics or simply he is tired.
But with a couple of baskets we had the W in game2 despite another no coach game by Kidd.

That game probably will cost us the series.

[Mavrelous]

Kidd may want to consider benching DJJ and start Exum. I know Exum has been really bad in the playoffs, but Mavs need to have another ball handler on the court with Kyrie struggling, and also take advantage the 45 degree 3s, only thing that Celtics are willing to give. Those shots appear to be relatively comfortable to Exum, THJ, and Kleber...
Exum has attempted 1 3pointer in the past two games, and have made as many as any mavs not named Luka. That's how bad it has been.

I'm not so sure about starting Exum but I do agree there needs to be consideration to playing a 3 ballhandler lineup more. There needs to be a 3rd guy that can competently dribble and breakdown the defense especially later in the game. Particularly someone that can actually hit a pull up mid ranger so that the defense doesn't only have to defend the 3 and the rim.

I'm moving this discussion to here...
Yes, the Celtics are suffocating Luka in the backcourt and blitzing Kyrie, Mavs need to bump Exum minutes to relief the pressure.

If all NBA supermax Jaylen Brown can apply full court pressure and get 2-3 TOs per game on it, then Josh Green and DJJ can too, I have no idea why Kidd just doesn't use this concept...

[41Dirk41]

Kidd may want to consider benching DJJ and start Exum. I know Exum has been really bad in the playoffs, but Mavs need to have another ball handler on the court with Kyrie struggling, and also take advantage the 45 degree 3s, only thing that Celtics are willing to give. Those shots appear to be relatively comfortable to Exum, THJ, and Kleber...
Exum has attempted 1 3pointer in the past two games, and have made as many as any mavs not named Luka. That's how bad it has been.

I'm not so sure about starting Exum but I do agree there needs to be consideration to playing a 3 ballhandler lineup more. There needs to be a 3rd guy that can competently dribble and breakdown the defense especially later in the game. Particularly someone that can actually hit a pull up mid ranger so that the defense doesn't only have to defend the 3 and the rim.

I'm moving this discussion to here...
Yes, the Celtics are suffocating Luka in the backcourt and blitzing Kyrie, Mavs need to bump Exum minutes to relief the pressure.

If all NBA supermax Jaylen Brown can apply full court pressure and get 2-3 TOs per game on it, then Josh Green and DJJ can too, I have no idea why Kidd just doesn't use this concept...

Kidd delivered the team to death in the first 2 games, no preparation and no adjustments.

[Saint Lazarus]

BOSTON REFEREES are on fire.

This f'in trash team and franchise. They only ride on their propaganda and media power. They are as dirty as it gets. F*ck Bill Simmons and his dumb ass comments just to help this REFS should keep helping Celtics narrative.

Boston is not playing basketball. Their so-called stars are laughable. They only live on refs whistles.
The contrast between what Luka and Kyrie not getting calls but Brown is getting just obvious match-fixing.

Watch the early 3rd quarter. Boston's REFS made 5 straight wrong calls favoring Celtics. Unbeliveable.
At the end of the game its same again. Its totally fine to push, hack, hug, slap wrist if its against Luka or PJ or whomever.

NBA's match-fixing, bet-scandal refs can go to hell. Shame on anyone who has a part in this.
Ratings sucks because Boston Celtics is not playing basketball. They are not even playing basketball as good as any of Western Conference top 4 teams. Its only refs. Carlisle was right. With these refs you need Celtics to choke too too much to win.

* Celtics playing like dumb **** who has no other plan than getting fouls on drives. Due to Mavs avoiding fouls, now it becomes double teams and open 3. They are allowed make 30 mistakes per game because REFS will compensate 30+ for them.
* Mavs plays mostly right plays but under fouling, jail-ball type of defense. However, we still have some semi-mistaken plays. Mostly by Kyrie. I know he is a tough-shot maker but he should not get in between Luka and offense. In the late 4th quarter, he should've let more time to Luka to cook. Maybe run around, cut around more. Or try to bring the ball up and find Luka to save his energy.

Feel free for make informative posts, trolling with emojis is not welcome and will not be tolerated.

[41Dirk41]

BOSTON REFEREES are on fire.

This f'in trash team and franchise. They only ride on their propaganda and media power. They are as dirty as it gets. F*ck Bill Simmons and his dumb ass comments just to help this REFS should keep helping Celtics narrative.

Boston is not playing basketball. Their so-called stars are laughable. They only live on refs whistles.
The contrast between what Luka and Kyrie not getting calls but Brown is getting just obvious match-fixing.

Watch the early 3rd quarter. Boston's REFS made 5 straight wrong calls favoring Celtics. Unbeliveable.
At the end of the game its same again. Its totally fine to push, hack, hug, slap wrist if its against Luka or PJ or whomever.

NBA's match-fixing, bet-scandal refs can go to hell. Shame on anyone who has a part in this.
Ratings sucks because Boston Celtics is not playing basketball. They are not even playing basketball as good as any of Western Conference top 4 teams. Its only refs. Carlisle was right. With these refs you need Celtics to choke too too much to win.

* Celtics playing like dumb **** who has no other plan than getting fouls on drives. Due to Mavs avoiding fouls, now it becomes double teams and open 3. They are allowed make 30 mistakes per game because REFS will compensate 30+ for them.
* Mavs plays mostly right plays but under fouling, jail-ball type of defense. However, we still have some semi-mistaken plays. Mostly by Kyrie. I know he is a tough-shot maker but he should not get in between Luka and offense. In the late 4th quarter, he should've let more time to Luka to cook. Maybe run around, cut around more. Or try to bring the ball up and find Luka to save his energy.

Lazarus wake up and walk... Ehm i mean Dallas Mavericks

[Bob8]

Kidd may want to consider benching DJJ and start Exum. I know Exum has been really bad in the playoffs, but Mavs need to have another ball handler on the court with Kyrie struggling, and also take advantage the 45 degree 3s, only thing that Celtics are willing to give. Those shots appear to be relatively comfortable to Exum, THJ, and Kleber...
Exum has attempted 1 3pointer in the past two games, and have made as many as any mavs not named Luka. That's how bad it has been.

I'm not so sure about starting Exum but I do agree there needs to be consideration to playing a 3 ballhandler lineup more. There needs to be a 3rd guy that can competently dribble and breakdown the defense especially later in the game. Particularly someone that can actually hit a pull up mid ranger so that the defense doesn't only have to defend the 3 and the rim.

I'm moving this discussion to here...
Yes, the Celtics are suffocating Luka in the backcourt and blitzing Kyrie, Mavs need to bump Exum minutes to relief the pressure.

If all NBA supermax Jaylen Brown can apply full court pressure and get 2-3 TOs per game on it, then Josh Green and DJJ can too, I have no idea why Kidd just doesn't use this concept...

Problem with 3 guard lineup is D. One has to be on Tatum/Brown.

[Mavrelous]

I'm not so sure about starting Exum but I do agree there needs to be consideration to playing a 3 ballhandler lineup more. There needs to be a 3rd guy that can competently dribble and breakdown the defense especially later in the game. Particularly someone that can actually hit a pull up mid ranger so that the defense doesn't only have to defend the 3 and the rim.

I'm moving this discussion to here...
Yes, the Celtics are suffocating Luka in the backcourt and blitzing Kyrie, Mavs need to bump Exum minutes to relief the pressure.

If all NBA supermax Jaylen Brown can apply full court pressure and get 2-3 TOs per game on it, then Josh Green and DJJ can too, I have no idea why Kidd just doesn't use this concept...

Problem with 3 guard lineup is D. One has to be on Tatum/Brown.

He's 6'5", not that much of a difference from DJJ, Mavs defense seems to be allow dribble penetration into help and rotate to shooter help sagged off of, I've given up on trying to reason with people on the GB TBH, but this is why Luka is defending like he does, and this is why Celtics are making lots of baskets at the rim, Mavs changed what they are allowing...

[Bob8]

I'm moving this discussion to here...
Yes, the Celtics are suffocating Luka in the backcourt and blitzing Kyrie, Mavs need to bump Exum minutes to relief the pressure.

If all NBA supermax Jaylen Brown can apply full court pressure and get 2-3 TOs per game on it, then Josh Green and DJJ can too, I have no idea why Kidd just doesn't use this concept...

Problem with 3 guard lineup is D. One has to be on Tatum/Brown.

He's 6'5", not that much of a difference from DJJ, Mavs defense seems to be allow dribble penetration into help and rotate to shooter help sagged off of, I've given up on trying to reason with people on the GB TBH, but this is why Luka is defending like he does, and this is why Celtics are making lots of baskets at the rim, Mavs changed what they are allowing...

Difference is that with D Mavs are playing DJJ, PJ and even Kleber become even more important, because of help D they're providing. If you have 3 guards, all 3 are subpar in help D. DJJ is just athletic monster in comparison to Exum. I would think that's the reason that Hardy is not playing more too. Josh is still more capable in D and rebounding.

[Dirk2Doncic]

Celtics were 10 of 39 from 3 in game 2. That game was there for the taking and probably realistically if we were going to win this series we win that game.

Having said that...

Find a way to win game 3 and it makes for a very interesting game 4. With Porzingis possible reduced impact plus 2 home games I will leave the door open to the possibility of this series turning.

[Bob8]

Celtics were 10 of 39 from 3 in game 2. That game was there for the taking and probably realistically if we were going to win this series we win that game.

Having said that...

Find a way to win game 3 and it makes for a very interesting game 4. With Porzingis possible reduced impact plus 2 home games I will leave the door open to the possibility of this series turning.

We will see very soon how Luka and especially Kyrie start the game. If they look locked in, I believe Mavs have still a chance. We will need 60+ points from them.

[41Dirk41]

Celtics were 10 of 39 from 3 in game 2. That game was there for the taking and probably realistically if we were going to win this series we win that game.

Having said that...

Find a way to win game 3 and it makes for a very interesting game 4. With Porzingis possible reduced impact plus 2 home games I will leave the door open to the possibility of this series turning.

That was definitely the game to win for steal the home court, now it's more "no sweep please".

[MassimoPayne]

Celtics were 10 of 39 from 3 in game 2. That game was there for the taking and probably realistically if we were going to win this series we win that game.

Having said that...

Find a way to win game 3 and it makes for a very interesting game 4. With Porzingis possible reduced impact plus 2 home games I will leave the door open to the possibility of this series turning.

We will see very soon how Luka and especially Kyrie start the game. If they look locked in, I believe Mavs have still a chance. We will need 60+ points from them.

50 from Luka and 10 from Kyrie?

[HMFFL]

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[41Dirk41]

KP injuried again.

It's now or never.

[HMFFL]

Kidd may want to consider benching DJJ and start Exum. I know Exum has been really bad in the playoffs, but Mavs need to have another ball handler on the court with Kyrie struggling, and also take advantage the 45 degree 3s, only thing that Celtics are willing to give. Those shots appear to be relatively comfortable to Exum, THJ, and Kleber...
Exum has attempted 1 3pointer in the past two games, and have made as many as any mavs not named Luka. That's how bad it has been.

I'm not so sure about starting Exum but I do agree there needs to be consideration to playing a 3 ballhandler lineup more. There needs to be a 3rd guy that can competently dribble and breakdown the defense especially later in the game. Particularly someone that can actually hit a pull up mid ranger so that the defense doesn't only have to defend the 3 and the rim.

I'm moving this discussion to here...
Yes, the Celtics are suffocating Luka in the backcourt and blitzing Kyrie, Mavs need to bump Exum minutes to relief the pressure.

If all NBA supermax Jaylen Brown can apply full court pressure and get 2-3 TOs per game on it, then Josh Green and DJJ can too, I have no idea why Kidd just doesn't use this concept...

Indeed.
Kyries teammates need to do their part to free him.up. Coach Kidd needs to get creative too. Team effort!

[HMFFL]

Mavs are a 2.5 point favorite. Was 3

[Bob8]

I'm not so sure about starting Exum but I do agree there needs to be consideration to playing a 3 ballhandler lineup more. There needs to be a 3rd guy that can competently dribble and breakdown the defense especially later in the game. Particularly someone that can actually hit a pull up mid ranger so that the defense doesn't only have to defend the 3 and the rim.

I'm moving this discussion to here...
Yes, the Celtics are suffocating Luka in the backcourt and blitzing Kyrie, Mavs need to bump Exum minutes to relief the pressure.

If all NBA supermax Jaylen Brown can apply full court pressure and get 2-3 TOs per game on it, then Josh Green and DJJ can too, I have no idea why Kidd just doesn't use this concept...

Indeed.
Kyries teammates need to do their part to free him.up. Coach Kidd needs to get creative too. Team effort!

Interesting concept. You are a hall of Famer and you need your role players to free you up.

[Bob8]

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What is the point of creating 3s, if you're hitting just 11% of them?