Nico Harrison: "There's no regrets on the Luka Doncic trade. Part of it is doing the best thing for Mavs"

[Jonny Blaze]

For a period of 10 years (2012-21) the Mavs failed to win a single playoff series before Cuban got rid of Donnie Nelson and brought in Harrison.
Before Nico the Mavs continually stuck out in free agency because Donnie Nelson didn't have relationships with American (black) star players.

Calling us clowns because we don't like Nico... Ok let's see what Nico did.

Who specifically did Nico bring with free agency?

Klay? When Kyrie recruited him and also said he wanted to play with Luka?

Who else am i forgetting? Oh yeah, i really loved when he signed McGee to a special 3 year contract and promised him a starting spot in the process. That was really awesome when he had to later stretch waive him.

What happened to Brunson under Nico's watch? Do you want to revisit that or did you block that out of your memory like you blocked 90% of bull**** you're talking in your posts?
We going to talk about all the unnecessary draft capital he had to burn through just to fix his own mistakes? I guess not.

The only reason the mavs were in the lottery this past season was due to injuries. The Mavs would not have made the playoffs last year even if they had kept Luka.....not with their entire starting lineup out due to injuries'.

Luka carried worse into the playoffs than the team he had before the trade. You're maybe casually forgetting the fact that he averaged 37pt triple double for TWO WHOLE months when Kyrie and others were out. That kept them afloat before everyone came back.

Nico's new medical staff rushed AD back and gets injured first game when he went full out. Then Kyries minutes and offensive load had to increase and even he got injured. AD comes back and gets injured again when he had to go full out vs MEM. For sure we thought Nico preaching defense would mean Mavs would easily sneak into the playoffs even without Kyrie.

Now Kyrie is injured and said himself he doesn't know if he's even going to be back next season. Which would potentially mean another wasted season. (i hope not).
Then we have to start talking about NEXT season which will be again difficult because there is this thing called salary cap and you can not magically keep players with infinite amount of money and zero consequences.

The absolute best thing to do would be to give Flagg keys of the team and go from there. But obviously Nico can't do that just yet with AD on the team.

Simply said, Nico is an idiot who's falling upwards ever since he arrived. And the fact that you credit him with Flagg is absolute madness

Why are you so angry???? You need to calm down my man....and when did I credit Nico with Flagg??
every Luka Stan argument is "But he averaged 37, 10 and 10" They sound exactly like fans of James Harden.


The mavericks were not going to make the playoffs last year with or without Luka. They had way too many injuries across the board.
I'll give you a 5 game improvement with Luka. Meaning that the best the Mavs would have done last year without the trade would have been for 44 or 45 games...max. 48 wins was what the 8th seeded teams had in the Western Conference.

The problem with the extreme Luka fans is that they aren't really Mavericks fans. People like this are absolutely terrified that the Mavs are going to be better in the future than they ever were under Luka.
Its one of the huge reasons so many people were pissed that the Mavs got the #1 pick.

If you've spent the last 6 months investing all your time into whining, crying and b****ng about Nico....these people are going to look stupid if the Mavs accomplish what they should have done in the Luka era....and that is being a team that consistently wins between 55-60 games each season.

The 25-26 Mavs will be the best defensive team we've ever had in franchise history. The teams that win multiple titles (Pistons, Spurs, Bull, Warriors..etc) were typically the best defensive teams in the league year after year.

That is Nico's vision....but a lot of these Luka fans are too ignorant to realize this. Defense does win championships.
The Mavs have never consistently been a great defensive team....and a part of that is due to the limitations of their last two superstar players.

[Bob8]

For a period of 10 years (2012-21) the Mavs failed to win a single playoff series before Cuban got rid of Donnie Nelson and brought in Harrison.
Before Nico the Mavs continually stuck out in free agency because Donnie Nelson didn't have relationships with American (black) star players.

Calling us clowns because we don't like Nico... Ok let's see what Nico did.

Who specifically did Nico bring with free agency?

Klay? When Kyrie recruited him and also said he wanted to play with Luka?

Who else am i forgetting? Oh yeah, i really loved when he signed McGee to a special 3 year contract and promised him a starting spot in the process. That was really awesome when he had to later stretch waive him.

What happened to Brunson under Nico's watch? Do you want to revisit that or did you block that out of your memory like you blocked 90% of bull**** you're talking in your posts?
We going to talk about all the unnecessary draft capital he had to burn through just to fix his own mistakes? I guess not.

The only reason the mavs were in the lottery this past season was due to injuries. The Mavs would not have made the playoffs last year even if they had kept Luka.....not with their entire starting lineup out due to injuries'.

Luka carried worse into the playoffs than the team he had before the trade. You're maybe casually forgetting the fact that he averaged 37pt triple double for TWO WHOLE months when Kyrie and others were out. That kept them afloat before everyone came back.

Nico's new medical staff rushed AD back and gets injured first game when he went full out. Then Kyries minutes and offensive load had to increase and even he got injured. AD comes back and gets injured again when he had to go full out vs MEM. For sure we thought Nico preaching defense would mean Mavs would easily sneak into the playoffs even without Kyrie.

Now Kyrie is injured and said himself he doesn't know if he's even going to be back next season. Which would potentially mean another wasted season. (i hope not).
Then we have to start talking about NEXT season which will be again difficult because there is this thing called salary cap and you can not magically keep players with infinite amount of money and zero consequences.

The absolute best thing to do would be to give Flagg keys of the team and go from there. But obviously Nico can't do that just yet with AD on the team.

Simply said, Nico is an idiot who's falling upwards ever since he arrived. And the fact that you credit him with Flagg is absolute madness

Why are you so angry???? You need to calm down my man....and when did I credit Nico with Flagg??
every Luka Stan argument is "But he averaged 37, 10 and 10" They sound exactly like fans of James Harden.


The mavericks were not going to make the playoffs last year with or without Luka. They had way too many injuries across the board.
I'll give you a 5 game improvement with Luka. Meaning that the best the Mavs would have done last year without the trade would have been for 44 or 45 games...max. 48 wins was what the 8th seeded teams had in the Western Conference.

The problem with the extreme Luka fans is that they aren't really Mavericks fans. People like this are absolutely terrified that the Mavs are going to be better in the future than they ever were under Luka.
Its one of the huge reasons so many people were pissed that the Mavs got the #1 pick.

If you've spent the last 6 months investing all your time into whining, crying and b****ng about Nico....these people are going to look stupid if the Mavs accomplish what they should have done in the Luka era....and that is being a team that consistently wins between 55-60 games each season.

The 25-26 Mavs will be the best defensive team we've ever had in franchise history. The teams that win multiple titles (Pistons, Spurs, Bull, Warriors..etc) were typically the best defensive teams in the league year after year.

That is Nico's vision....but a lot of these Luka fans are too ignorant to realize this. Defense does win championships.
The Mavs have never consistently been a great defensive team....and a part of that is due to the limitations of their last two superstar players.

You're talking about D, Nico's great vision and Mavs consistently winning 55-60 games. (Which btw. would be fantastic achievement in this wild West with 10 good teams.) Let's talk what Nico really did for achieving that,

He traded 26 years old player for 6 years older injury prone player, who played more than 60 games 2x in last 7 years.

I could understand your sentiment, if AD was 26 years old and not injury prone. Instead Nico has got ageing and extremely injury prone superstar. But ok even that should have some sense, if he paired him with 6'7 26 years old PG Luka. Unfortunately he paired him with 33 years old Sg, who's not good defender, is also injury prone and is foremost Iso scorer, meaning you still need good Pg, because the entire Mavs front court is not capable of creating anything for themselves and that good Pg will need to be good defender too, or you still have bad defending backcourt. Results:

- First season total debacle, because AD went down in first game and then everything felt apart.
- Second season is over already, because Kyrie will bet out for most of the season and he will need a lot of time to came back in form.
- 3rd season. When the season will be finished AD will be 34 years old and Kyrie 35. Both injury prone.

That's Nico's vision. Those 55-60 games seasons nowhere to be seen.

The only thing going for Mavs is winning lottery with 1.8%. And that has nothing with your great visionary Nico.

Nico should except he was wrong but lucky and trade both AD and Kyrie, while they still have some value and start building the real team around Flagg. In that case Mavs would really have chances to build long term contender, if Flagg really is what people believe he is.

Unfortunately Nico will put himself before the team again and continue his vision with AD. He can win only with AD now, that's his cards. Unfortunately for Nico availability is one of the most important things in Nba and his 2 most important players are old and injured all the time.

Btw. Who are those ignorant Luka's fans and how you recognise them? I guess fans who enjoyed Mavs led by Luka in last 7 years. Man those ignorant fans enjoyed watching Mavs, what a shocker. Real fans shouldn't enjoy a team who doesn't win at least 55 games.

Can we talk about ignorant "Mavs" fan too, who didn't see anything good in Dallas in last 7 years? WCF with Powell as rim protector, Finals as clear underdogs, winning West, against 1st, 2nd and 4th seed? I wonder how you can be a Mavs fan and not enjoy anything in last 7 years? Were you angry when Mavs destroyed 64 winning Suns in game 7? You didn't enjoy Mavs winning against the best team in the West OKC? Or when they destroyed Wolves in WCF? How ignorant must those fans be, if they believe winning 55+ games is the only thing important?

And what about Luka? You as Mavs fan didn't enjoy some memorable Luka's performances? No joy watching him? I see you're already totally impressed with AD's 10 games.

[41Dirk41]

Everyone is aware they got crap value for Luka. Everyone was upset about that when the trade went down. They didn’t even get half of Luka’s true value in my opinion. I also believe Nico should be fired but by this point it’s clear that’s not going to happen. Me screaming for Nico to get fired in every single post is not going to make it happen.

Here's where you're wrong, we have to scream for Nico get fired every minutes of our Mavs life, mostly people like you who go to the AAC, bar sport and live in Dallas.

Nico Harrison destroyed a franchise and just an immense luck (or something else) saved the team, he doesn't deserve his job... Mostly after his disrespectful statements towards the fans. I don't forget his words. I will never.

Destroy a franchise? From what? A 4 seed and 52-30?

For a period of 10 years (2012-21) the Mavs failed to win a single playoff series before Cuban got rid of Donnie Nelson and brought in Harrison.
Before Nico the Mavs continually stuck out in free agency because Donnie Nelson didn't have relationships with American (black) star players.

When the Mavs do better under AD, Kyrie and Flagg than they ever did under Luka...its going to make the Nico haters look like clowns.


The only reason the mavs were in the lottery this past season was due to injuries. The Mavs would not have made the playoffs last year even if they had kept Luka.....not with their entire starting lineup out due to injuries'.

I like Nico's vision of building a defensive first basketball team. I can't tell you how many games I went to in the Luka era where I watched him dribble the air out of the basketball, put up an amazing stat line like 39, 10 and 10......but the Mavs still lost because they gave up 125 points.

From playing the Finals dude.
Mavs played the NBA Finals 3 times in their history. THREE TIMES.

You continue to talk about RS, those Mavs & Luka overperformed every year in PO and that's the focal point.
Good luck to win PO series leaded by AD& Irving. Playin Finals spoken very well.

I just want to see how street clothes, Irving and Flagg (who was not in Nico vision but you have to include him to not make your argument too silly) can do better than that, i'm just here to see how a team smoked by the Grizzlies months ago in the playin Finals can play the NBA Finals this year adding a 18yo kid.

But i will be here all the time. Don't disappear my dear friend.
I'm sorry but Nico vision doesn't exists, he talked about Cleveland when they won a lot of games just to justify the 2 no shooting bigs on the court.

[41Dirk41]

AD is going to give you about 80% of what Luka gave us on offense

I respect your long time Mavs fans tenute but this is bull, i hope you are joking.

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For a period of 10 years (2012-21) the Mavs failed to win a single playoff series before Cuban got rid of Donnie Nelson and brought in Harrison.
Before Nico the Mavs continually stuck out in free agency because Donnie Nelson didn't have relationships with American (black) star players.

Calling us clowns because we don't like Nico... Ok let's see what Nico did.

Who specifically did Nico bring with free agency?

Klay? When Kyrie recruited him and also said he wanted to play with Luka?

Who else am i forgetting? Oh yeah, i really loved when he signed McGee to a special 3 year contract and promised him a starting spot in the process. That was really awesome when he had to later stretch waive him.

What happened to Brunson under Nico's watch? Do you want to revisit that or did you block that out of your memory like you blocked 90% of bull**** you're talking in your posts?
We going to talk about all the unnecessary draft capital he had to burn through just to fix his own mistakes? I guess not.

The only reason the mavs were in the lottery this past season was due to injuries. The Mavs would not have made the playoffs last year even if they had kept Luka.....not with their entire starting lineup out due to injuries'.

Luka carried worse into the playoffs than the team he had before the trade. You're maybe casually forgetting the fact that he averaged 37pt triple double for TWO WHOLE months when Kyrie and others were out. That kept them afloat before everyone came back.

Nico's new medical staff rushed AD back and gets injured first game when he went full out. Then Kyries minutes and offensive load had to increase and even he got injured. AD comes back and gets injured again when he had to go full out vs MEM. For sure we thought Nico preaching defense would mean Mavs would easily sneak into the playoffs even without Kyrie.

Now Kyrie is injured and said himself he doesn't know if he's even going to be back next season. Which would potentially mean another wasted season. (i hope not).
Then we have to start talking about NEXT season which will be again difficult because there is this thing called salary cap and you can not magically keep players with infinite amount of money and zero consequences.

The absolute best thing to do would be to give Flagg keys of the team and go from there. But obviously Nico can't do that just yet with AD on the team.

Simply said, Nico is an idiot who's falling upwards ever since he arrived. And the fact that you credit him with Flagg is absolute madness

Why are you so angry???? You need to calm down my man....and when did I credit Nico with Flagg??
every Luka Stan argument is "But he averaged 37, 10 and 10" They sound exactly like fans of James Harden.


The mavericks were not going to make the playoffs last year with or without Luka. They had way too many injuries across the board.
I'll give you a 5 game improvement with Luka. Meaning that the best the Mavs would have done last year without the trade would have been for 44 or 45 games...max. 48 wins was what the 8th seeded teams had in the Western Conference.

The problem with the extreme Luka fans is that they aren't really Mavericks fans. People like this are absolutely terrified that the Mavs are going to be better in the future than they ever were under Luka.
Its one of the huge reasons so many people were pissed that the Mavs got the #1 pick.

If you've spent the last 6 months investing all your time into whining, crying and b****ng about Nico....these people are going to look stupid if the Mavs accomplish what they should have done in the Luka era....and that is being a team that consistently wins between 55-60 games each season.

The 25-26 Mavs will be the best defensive team we've ever had in franchise history. The teams that win multiple titles (Pistons, Spurs, Bull, Warriors..etc) were typically the best defensive teams in the league year after year.

That is Nico's vision....but a lot of these Luka fans are too ignorant to realize this. Defense does win championships.
The Mavs have never consistently been a great defensive team....and a part of that is due to the limitations of their last two superstar players.

Lmao you're hilarious i am talking about Nico, you keep talking about Luka. I get it now, you're AD stan probably coming from Lakers fandom. Was wondering what's up with you.

You came here throwing shades at us who disagree with what Nico has done and then label us as Luka stans which has now become an insult more or less. The fact that you can't even comprehend i am talking about Nico, and you keep calling me Luka stan because i call him out, is borderline trolling.

What Nico is doing is not his "Vision" it's him accidentally lucking into some players after he made a terrible mistakes beforehand. Him lucking into PJ and Gafford and now Flagg, has nothing to do with his vision. Going to press conference and publicly say "I hope fans now see our vision" has made entire fanbase even more mad, because he is effectively saying Flagg was his plan. That's not a vision, it's a complete and utter dumb luck.

And since it's YOU who can't stop talking about Luka, i will say you made up a ton of statistics about his time here. Mavs best future in 2018 was Dennis Smith Jr. Yeah, that was their future. Next came 2018 draft with Brunson and Luka and luckily they became Mavs future and put Mavs back on the map after Dirk retired.
Why i brought up his stats? It was just an example because your ignorance is incredible. You are willing to give AD credit for few games that he was with Mavs, got injured and failed to reach playoffs, but you can not give credit to past star player who was actually carrying this team.

Without Flagg, what was Mavs future? An aging an broken AD+Kyrie? Firing Casey Smith when he was attending his dying mother? A medical team that caused entire last season to be a pure mess? Yeah man... Nico's vision sure is/was fantastic.

You also keep mentioning regular season win statistics. Like when did that ever mean anything? It's nice on the outside but what really matters is playoff success. If Mavs have that with the new players i already said i will be more than happy. But you're making subjective claims without any backing. I already showed you actual stats how little does regular season W/L historically mean.

When you talk about the past 6 years, you're also casually throwing out injuries, trades, etc... But you're also more than happy to mention the same arguments when you defend AD and Nico

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Will be awesome when AD is off the team so his crazy fans leave with him and we can focus purely on Flagg. That will be a glorious day.

[41Dirk41]

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Will be awesome when AD is off the team so his crazy fans leave with him and we can focus purely on Flagg. That will be a glorious day.

I like street clothes, he is a great 2 way player when healthy... But if people expect by him to be a #1 option it will be so hard hit the reality. He is mentally very weak and not a leader for sure. His career spoken very well.

[daoneandonly]

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Will be awesome when AD is off the team so his crazy fans leave with him and we can focus purely on Flagg. That will be a glorious day.

Yea I just really hope its soon, but with Nico still around cant wish for it to be true

The argument hat Mavs were 7-3 with AD speaks for itself. He played 10 games when he arrived on the team in first week of February. That's PATHETIC.

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Will be awesome when AD is off the team so his crazy fans leave with him and we can focus purely on Flagg. That will be a glorious day.

Yea I just really hope its soon, but with Nico still around cant wish for it to be true

The argument hat Mavs were 7-3 with AD speaks for itself. He played 10 games when he arrived on the team in first week of February. That's PATHETIC.

Heh yea. It's even more absurd when you look at the arguments here. "AD is a better 2-way player"... Like when did that ever helped him before? It's the same situation that people bring up with OKC with SGA. Dude was a negative player until he was surrounded by defensive specialists and got a very deep OKC team round him...And AD bolted to LA to join Lebron because he couldn't do anything in NOLA.

With Mavs, he got rushed back by Nico's incredible medical team and got injured after 3Q's when he went 100%. Then came back early and got injured again after going 100%. Then the argument was Mavs couldn't win in anything in past years because their star produced only stats and not wins. Well, what did AD do vs MEM beside getting injured? He did score 40 but i guess his incredible 2-way play went out the window when MEM easily beat Mavs

This 2-way talk about certain players has become sooo overrated in the past couple of years, it's absolutely stupid. But i do agree AD is a great player (when healthy), Mavs actually had a 7-4 overall record with him, it's just that i don't trust him to carry a team nor do i trust him to stay healthy.

[Jonny Blaze]

AD is going to give you about 80% of what Luka gave us on offense

I respect your long time Mavs fans tenute but this is bull, i hope you are joking.

Serious questions....Did you take math when you were in school?

AD is going to score between 24-30 PPG....which is roughly 80% of the 31-33PPG that Luka was giving us. The difference is that AD also has the ability to anchor a championship caliber defense....something the Mavericks haven't had since Tyson Chandler. Luka is a net negative on defense (see 2024 Finals).
We are replacing a negative defensive player with one of the best defenders in the entire NBA.

The Dallas Mavericks have never had a player that could consistently average over 2 blocks/game.
AD has led the NBA in blocks in 3 different seasons.

AD was the best player on the 2020 Lakers that won the championship, and at worst was 2nd best behind Lebron. He was the Lakers best defensive player and led them that season in PER.
AD also won a National Title in his only season at Kentucky.

Luka hasn't won jack chit. All he does is score a lot.....but he also has the ball in his hand more than any other player in the league.
Houston fans used to call him White James Harden.....and at the end of the day I agree with them.
There is only so far you are going to go with an offense only superstar who is overweight and doesn't commit to playing defense.

Luka and Harden can score like a MOFO....I will give you that...but the Mavs will be better in the future than they ever were in the Luka era.

[Jonny Blaze]

Will be awesome when AD is off the team so his crazy fans leave with him and we can focus purely on Flagg. That will be a glorious day.

Yea I just really hope its soon, but with Nico still around cant wish for it to be true

The argument hat Mavs were 7-3 with AD speaks for itself. He played 10 games when he arrived on the team in first week of February. That's PATHETIC.

Heh yea. It's even more absurd when you look at the arguments here. "AD is a better 2-way player"... Like when did that ever helped him before? It's the same situation that people bring up with OKC with SGA. Dude was a negative player until he was surrounded by defensive specialists and got a very deep OKC team round him...And AD bolted to LA to join Lebron because he couldn't do anything in NOLA.

With Mavs, he got rushed back by Nico's incredible medical team and got injured after 3Q's when he went 100%. Then came back early and got injured again after going 100%. Then the argument was Mavs couldn't win in anything in past years because their star produced only stats and not wins. Well, what did AD do vs MEM beside getting injured? He did score 40 but i guess his incredible 2-way play went out the window when MEM easily beat Mavs

This 2-way talk about certain players has become sooo overrated in the past couple of years, it's absolutely stupid. But i do agree AD is a great player (when healthy), Mavs actually had a 7-4 overall record with him, it's just that i don't trust him to carry a team nor do i trust him to stay healthy.

Listening to you...I would think that Luka was the NBA Champion and that AD had never won in the NBA.
Anthony Davis was the best player on the 2020 NBA Champion Lakers. 27PPG, 10 rebounds, 1.5 blocks and also playing great defense was his stat line during the 2020 post season.

in the 24 post season AD averaged 27ppg, 15 rebounds
In the 23 post season (16 games) he averaged 22PPG, 14 rebounds and 3 blocks

If the Mavericks can get that level of production in the post season we will do very well.

[Bob8]

AD is going to give you about 80% of what Luka gave us on offense

I respect your long time Mavs fans tenute but this is bull, i hope you are joking.

Serious questions....Did you take math when you were in school?

AD is going to score between 24-30 PPG....which is roughly 80% of the 31-33PPG that Luka was giving us. The difference is that AD also has the ability to anchor a championship caliber defense....something the Mavericks haven't had since Tyson Chandler. Luka is a net negative on defense (see 2024 Finals).
We are replacing a negative defensive player with one of the best defenders in the entire NBA.

The Dallas Mavericks have never had a player that could consistently average over 2 blocks/game.
AD has led the NBA in blocks in 3 different seasons.

AD was the best player on the 2020 Lakers that won the championship, and at worst was 2nd best behind Lebron. He was the Lakers best defensive player and led them that season in PER.
AD also won a National Title in his only season at Kentucky.

Luka hasn't won jack chit. All he does is score a lot.....but he also has the ball in his hand more than any other player in the league.
Houston fans used to call him White James Harden.....and at the end of the day I agree with them.
There is only so far you are going to go with an offense only superstar who is overweight and doesn't commit to playing defense.

Luka and Harden can score like a MOFO....I will give you that...but the Mavs will be better in the future than they ever were in the Luka era.

You're talking about Luka and AD like they're the same age. They're not. 6 years is a huge difference. And then you're completely ignoring that AD played more than 60 games 2x in 7 years. That's just disastrous.

Secondly, you're totally ignoring Luka's playmaking. Luka had scored and assisted nearly 60 Mavs points in 23/24 season. You better check your math.

[Jonny Blaze]

I respect your long time Mavs fans tenute but this is bull, i hope you are joking.

Serious questions....Did you take math when you were in school?

AD is going to score between 24-30 PPG....which is roughly 80% of the 31-33PPG that Luka was giving us. The difference is that AD also has the ability to anchor a championship caliber defense....something the Mavericks haven't had since Tyson Chandler. Luka is a net negative on defense (see 2024 Finals).
We are replacing a negative defensive player with one of the best defenders in the entire NBA.

The Dallas Mavericks have never had a player that could consistently average over 2 blocks/game.
AD has led the NBA in blocks in 3 different seasons.

AD was the best player on the 2020 Lakers that won the championship, and at worst was 2nd best behind Lebron. He was the Lakers best defensive player and led them that season in PER.
AD also won a National Title in his only season at Kentucky.

Luka hasn't won jack chit. All he does is score a lot.....but he also has the ball in his hand more than any other player in the league.
Houston fans used to call him White James Harden.....and at the end of the day I agree with them.
There is only so far you are going to go with an offense only superstar who is overweight and doesn't commit to playing defense.

Luka and Harden can score like a MOFO....I will give you that...but the Mavs will be better in the future than they ever were in the Luka era.

You're talking about Luka and AD like they're the same age. They're not. 6 years is a huge difference. And then you're completely ignoring that AD played more than 60 games 2x in 7 years. That's just disastrous.

Secondly, you're totally ignoring Luka's playmaking.

You are talking about Luka like he's a healthy 26 year old player. Luka can barely dunk anymore. Look at pictures of Luka in his first 3 years in Dallas, and then compare it to the last 2 years.
A 25 year old player shouldn't be getting injured twice in the first two months of the season.

His weight and lack of conditioning are a direct reflection of why his defense sucks.

Luka played 72 games for the Mavericks in his rookie year which equates to 87% of games played.

Luka never gave the Mavericks 90% of games played for the season....which correlates to 52-30 being the best record he ever led the Mavs to.

For comparison Dirk played in 90% of his games the first 13 full seasons he was with the Mavericks. He didn't miss any significant time until the 12-13 season.

Look at the superstar players that win a lot...and you will see that they are regularly playing at least 75 games/year almost every season.

Please quit with the age argument. The age argument would only work if Luka didn't have a history of getting injured and missing a lot of games.

If Luka doesn't get his weight in order.....he's got 3 years...maybe 4 of being an elite player.

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Yea I just really hope its soon, but with Nico still around cant wish for it to be true

The argument hat Mavs were 7-3 with AD speaks for itself. He played 10 games when he arrived on the team in first week of February. That's PATHETIC.

Heh yea. It's even more absurd when you look at the arguments here. "AD is a better 2-way player"... Like when did that ever helped him before? It's the same situation that people bring up with OKC with SGA. Dude was a negative player until he was surrounded by defensive specialists and got a very deep OKC team round him...And AD bolted to LA to join Lebron because he couldn't do anything in NOLA.

With Mavs, he got rushed back by Nico's incredible medical team and got injured after 3Q's when he went 100%. Then came back early and got injured again after going 100%. Then the argument was Mavs couldn't win in anything in past years because their star produced only stats and not wins. Well, what did AD do vs MEM beside getting injured? He did score 40 but i guess his incredible 2-way play went out the window when MEM easily beat Mavs

This 2-way talk about certain players has become sooo overrated in the past couple of years, it's absolutely stupid. But i do agree AD is a great player (when healthy), Mavs actually had a 7-4 overall record with him, it's just that i don't trust him to carry a team nor do i trust him to stay healthy.

Listening to you...I would think that Luka was the NBA Champion and that AD had never won in the NBA.
Anthony Davis was the best player on the 2020 NBA Champion Lakers. 27PPG, 10 rebounds, 1.5 blocks and also playing great defense was his stat line during the 2020 post season.

in the 24 post season AD averaged 27ppg, 15 rebounds
In the 23 post season (16 games) he averaged 22PPG, 14 rebounds and 3 blocks

If the Mavericks can get that level of production in the post season we will do very well.

It's actually the other way around. You're talking like Luka was some random scrub role player. AD was indeed best player if Lebron didn't exist. But he had to run to his daddy to win something, i guess that's still cool. We'll see what he'll be able to do with Mavs. This team's potential is great even though it wasn't exactly built for him.

If you didn't notice, AD is also 32yo, Luka is 26 lol...

Along with already promising playoff record, this is what he was able to accomplish in his first 6 years. I would say pretty good start, but hey Nico said he drank too much lemonade, so i guess it makes sense.

[Bob8]

Serious questions....Did you take math when you were in school?

AD is going to score between 24-30 PPG....which is roughly 80% of the 31-33PPG that Luka was giving us. The difference is that AD also has the ability to anchor a championship caliber defense....something the Mavericks haven't had since Tyson Chandler. Luka is a net negative on defense (see 2024 Finals).
We are replacing a negative defensive player with one of the best defenders in the entire NBA.

The Dallas Mavericks have never had a player that could consistently average over 2 blocks/game.
AD has led the NBA in blocks in 3 different seasons.

AD was the best player on the 2020 Lakers that won the championship, and at worst was 2nd best behind Lebron. He was the Lakers best defensive player and led them that season in PER.
AD also won a National Title in his only season at Kentucky.

Luka hasn't won jack chit. All he does is score a lot.....but he also has the ball in his hand more than any other player in the league.
Houston fans used to call him White James Harden.....and at the end of the day I agree with them.
There is only so far you are going to go with an offense only superstar who is overweight and doesn't commit to playing defense.

Luka and Harden can score like a MOFO....I will give you that...but the Mavs will be better in the future than they ever were in the Luka era.

You're talking about Luka and AD like they're the same age. They're not. 6 years is a huge difference. And then you're completely ignoring that AD played more than 60 games 2x in 7 years. That's just disastrous.

Secondly, you're totally ignoring Luka's playmaking.

You are talking about Luka like he's a healthy 26 year old player. Luka can barely dunk anymore. Look at picture of Luka in his first 3 years in Dallas and then compare it to the last 2 years. A 25 year old player shouldn't be getting injured twice in the first two months of the season.

His weight and lack of conditioning are a direct reflection of why his defense sucks.

Luka played 72 games for the Mavericks in his rookie year which equates to 87% of games played.
Luka never gave the Mavericks 90% of games played for the season....which correlates to 52-30 being the best record he ever led the Mavs to.

For comparison Dirk played in 90% of his games the first 13 full seasons he was with the Mavericks. He didn't miss any significant time until the 12-13 season.

Look at the superstar players that win a lot...and you will see that they are regularly playing at least 75 games/year almost every season.

Please quit with the age argument. The age argument would only work if Luka didn't have a history of getting injured and missing a lot of games.
Luka has got 3 years...maybe 4 of being an elite player.

You're kidding, yes? 6 years is a huge difference. And not only that, AD is one of the most injured players in nba in last 7 years. Maybe you should calculate % of AD's games played for Mavs? Nico traded for 6 years older and more injury prone player. Genius.

You won't address playmaking? Playmaking is not important? Near 60 points created don't count? Man, you're rude and clueless, that's lethal combination.

Btw. He looks like this, while AD has taken another operation.

https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a65542635/luka-doncic-basketball-break/

[Jonny Blaze]

You're talking about Luka and AD like they're the same age. They're not. 6 years is a huge difference. And then you're completely ignoring that AD played more than 60 games 2x in 7 years. That's just disastrous.

Secondly, you're totally ignoring Luka's playmaking.

You are talking about Luka like he's a healthy 26 year old player. Luka can barely dunk anymore. Look at picture of Luka in his first 3 years in Dallas and then compare it to the last 2 years. A 25 year old player shouldn't be getting injured twice in the first two months of the season.

His weight and lack of conditioning are a direct reflection of why his defense sucks.

Luka played 72 games for the Mavericks in his rookie year which equates to 87% of games played.
Luka never gave the Mavericks 90% of games played for the season....which correlates to 52-30 being the best record he ever led the Mavs to.

For comparison Dirk played in 90% of his games the first 13 full seasons he was with the Mavericks. He didn't miss any significant time until the 12-13 season.

Look at the superstar players that win a lot...and you will see that they are regularly playing at least 75 games/year almost every season.

Please quit with the age argument. The age argument would only work if Luka didn't have a history of getting injured and missing a lot of games.
Luka has got 3 years...maybe 4 of being an elite player.

You're kidding, yes? 6 years is a huge difference. And not only that, AD is one of the most injured players in nba in last 7 years. Maybe you should calculate % of AD's games played for Mavs? Nico traded for 6 years older and more injury prone player. Genius.

You won't address playmaking? Playmaking is not important? Near 60 points created don't count? Man, you're rude and clueless, that's lethal combination.

Man....you are a simpleton and not that bright. Luka led the league in usage rate....meaning that he had the ball in hands more than any other player.

That style of basketball doesn't win championships. The teams that win championships are typically elite defensively.
The Mavs pivoted away from that James Harden, Luka iso ball garbage.

You Luka stans need to go root for the Lakers. He don't play in Dallas anymore.

[Mr B]

Here's where you're wrong, we have to scream for Nico get fired every minutes of our Mavs life, mostly people like you who go to the AAC, bar sport and live in Dallas.

Nico Harrison destroyed a franchise and just an immense luck (or something else) saved the team, he doesn't deserve his job... Mostly after his disrespectful statements towards the fans. I don't forget his words. I will never.

Destroy a franchise? From what? A 4 seed and 52-30?

For a period of 10 years (2012-21) the Mavs failed to win a single playoff series before Cuban got rid of Donnie Nelson and brought in Harrison.
Before Nico the Mavs continually stuck out in free agency because Donnie Nelson didn't have relationships with American (black) star players.

When the Mavs do better under AD, Kyrie and Flagg than they ever did under Luka...its going to make the Nico haters look like clowns.


The only reason the mavs were in the lottery this past season was due to injuries. The Mavs would not have made the playoffs last year even if they had kept Luka.....not with their entire starting lineup out due to injuries'.

I like Nico's vision of building a defensive first basketball team. I can't tell you how many games I went to in the Luka era where I watched him dribble the air out of the basketball, put up an amazing stat line like 39, 10 and 10......but the Mavs still lost because they gave up 125 points.

From playing the Finals dude.
Mavs played the NBA Finals 3 times in their history. THREE TIMES.

You continue to talk about RS, those Mavs & Luka overperformed every year in PO and that's the focal point.
Good luck to win PO series leaded by AD& Irving. Playin Finals spoken very well.

I just want to see how street clothes, Irving and Flagg (who was not in Nico vision but you have to include him to not make your argument too silly) can do better than that, i'm just here to see how a team smoked by the Grizzlies months ago in the playin Finals can play the NBA Finals this year adding a 18yo kid.

But i will be here all the time. Don't disappear my dear friend.
I'm sorry but Nico vision doesn't exists, he talked about Cleveland when they won a lot of games just to justify the 2 no shooting bigs on the court.

See these are the posts that I have a problem with. You seem to be opens my rooting for the Mavs to lose. That’s not what a Mavs fan does that’s something a troll does.

[Bob8]

You are talking about Luka like he's a healthy 26 year old player. Luka can barely dunk anymore. Look at picture of Luka in his first 3 years in Dallas and then compare it to the last 2 years. A 25 year old player shouldn't be getting injured twice in the first two months of the season.

His weight and lack of conditioning are a direct reflection of why his defense sucks.

Luka played 72 games for the Mavericks in his rookie year which equates to 87% of games played.
Luka never gave the Mavericks 90% of games played for the season....which correlates to 52-30 being the best record he ever led the Mavs to.

For comparison Dirk played in 90% of his games the first 13 full seasons he was with the Mavericks. He didn't miss any significant time until the 12-13 season.

Look at the superstar players that win a lot...and you will see that they are regularly playing at least 75 games/year almost every season.

Please quit with the age argument. The age argument would only work if Luka didn't have a history of getting injured and missing a lot of games.
Luka has got 3 years...maybe 4 of being an elite player.

You're kidding, yes? 6 years is a huge difference. And not only that, AD is one of the most injured players in nba in last 7 years. Maybe you should calculate % of AD's games played for Mavs? Nico traded for 6 years older and more injury prone player. Genius.

You won't address playmaking? Playmaking is not important? Near 60 points created don't count? Man, you're rude and clueless, that's lethal combination.

Man....you are a simpleton and not that bright. Luka led the league in usage rate....meaning that he had the ball in hands more than any other player.

That style of basketball doesn't win championships. The teams that win championships are typically elite defensively.
The Mavs pivoted away from that James Harden, Luka iso ball garbage.

You Luka stans need to go root for the Lakers. He don't play in Dallas anymore.

I see, rude again, you must have good relations with mod.

Question is simple. Do assists count or not? If they count, your math is pretty bad.

[Jonny Blaze]

Destroy a franchise? From what? A 4 seed and 52-30?

For a period of 10 years (2012-21) the Mavs failed to win a single playoff series before Cuban got rid of Donnie Nelson and brought in Harrison.
Before Nico the Mavs continually stuck out in free agency because Donnie Nelson didn't have relationships with American (black) star players.

When the Mavs do better under AD, Kyrie and Flagg than they ever did under Luka...its going to make the Nico haters look like clowns.


The only reason the mavs were in the lottery this past season was due to injuries. The Mavs would not have made the playoffs last year even if they had kept Luka.....not with their entire starting lineup out due to injuries'.

I like Nico's vision of building a defensive first basketball team. I can't tell you how many games I went to in the Luka era where I watched him dribble the air out of the basketball, put up an amazing stat line like 39, 10 and 10......but the Mavs still lost because they gave up 125 points.

From playing the Finals dude.
Mavs played the NBA Finals 3 times in their history. THREE TIMES.

You continue to talk about RS, those Mavs & Luka overperformed every year in PO and that's the focal point.
Good luck to win PO series leaded by AD& Irving. Playin Finals spoken very well.

I just want to see how street clothes, Irving and Flagg (who was not in Nico vision but you have to include him to not make your argument too silly) can do better than that, i'm just here to see how a team smoked by the Grizzlies months ago in the playin Finals can play the NBA Finals this year adding a 18yo kid.

But i will be here all the time. Don't disappear my dear friend.
I'm sorry but Nico vision doesn't exists, he talked about Cleveland when they won a lot of games just to justify the 2 no shooting bigs on the court.

See these are the posts that I have a problem with. You seem to be opens my rooting for the Mavs to lose. That’s not what a Mavs fan does that’s something a troll does.

This is why i'm ready for the Luka stans to go be fans of the Lakers.

Cooper Flagg will be everything that Luka wasn’t:
-He will play elite level defense
-He won’t be whining
-He will be in shape
-He will not run out of gas in the 4th quarter of games

Will he be able to score like Luka? Probably not. But that is not Coopers game. His game reminds me of Anthony Davis or Kawaii Leonard. I don’t expect Flagg to become an elite scorer until his 3rd or 4th year.
I’m not sure if Cooper will help all that much on the offensive side of the ball in his rookie year. He will impact the defensive side of the ball immediately.

Cooper Flagg will not make us forget Luka….but he will be the Jason Terry to Steve Nash.
There are still plenty of Steve Nash fans here in Dallas (I’m one of them) but Jason Terry is the one that became the legend in Dallas.

Terry helped lead the Mavs to their first two Western Conference Championships in 2006 and 2011. Steve Nash made the Hall of Fame (as will Luka) but he never made the Finals.

[Archx]

Man....you are a simpleton and not that bright. Luka led the league in usage rate....meaning that he had the ball in hands more than any other player.

How can you call other person not bright but you don't even know how USGRate or USG% is calculated, what it does and what metric is it good for.