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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1621 » by Astaluego » Tue Mar 4, 2025 7:32 am

So what is your prediction guys? If KI's injury is significant (this season is over I guess) how does this affect the medium-term future (next year)? Do we say goodbye to KD's option? (I'm glad about this) What will happen with KI's new contract? Does he accept his PO and go to free agency in 2026 when there is more money? Or does the office offer him an extension this summer, does he accept it? Could this be an omen where Nico gets fired and the perfect excuse for ownership to trade AD this summer and start a rebuild (I don't hate it) Does AD have a market?
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Post#1622 » by Astaluego » Tue Mar 4, 2025 7:42 am

Bob8 wrote:
ACMFFL wrote:Honestly I doubt expiring 37 years old KD would fetch more than PJ/Gaff/Klay/1FRP on the market


It depends how this playoffs go. Rockets might be willing to pay a lot, if they fail, which is very probable. And they can afford to get KD with al the assets they have, including Suns FRPs. The same goes with Mavs, Nico will be very motivated to go all in. He can't afford another bad season. He said himself that he doesn't care what happens after few years, so KD with few years left is perfect player for him.

I wouldn't understand Houston doing that...why would they bail them out? The Suns are going to give them a lottery pick this year (last year they got the 3rd from the Nets)...if I'm them, I'd let the ship sink, while I collect the dividends...until they beg to get their picks back and make 28 year old Booker available..
I'm assuming KI's injury, if significant, takes us out of the KD race...
Thunder is the best team in the league and a very competent front office...don't destroy their youth/depth for KD (fits better on desperate team)..maybe trade Dieng/Topic etc for Cam Johnson or something...
The Wolves would have to gut their team to get him (McDaniels/Dillingham) lose Naz and NAW to the FA..
The clearest path I see is the Heat..they have expiring contracts (Rozier/Robinson) promising youngsters (Ware/Jovic) some selection to sweeten the pot and a good team to put on track, after obtaining KD..Herro/Wiggins/Jazquez/Kyle/Bam....
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Post#1623 » by wco81 » Tue Mar 4, 2025 5:22 pm

ACL for Kyrie.

Do the Mavs max him out this offseason?

He may miss a significant chunk of next season. A small aging guard who relies on athleticism and skill to overcome his size, now with a significant injury.
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Post#1624 » by Archx » Tue Mar 4, 2025 5:45 pm

wco81 wrote:ACL for Kyrie.

Do the Mavs max him out this offseason?

He may miss a significant chunk of next season. A small aging guard who relies on athleticism and skill to overcome his size, now with a significant injury.


I think Nico will force the issue and go through a thick wall head first. And by that he'll try and ride out the "core" of AD and Kyrie while also trying to add KD to this entire mess.

But in my heart, i think the best thing to do for this team would be to go into a full rebuild mode. They'll still have Lively/Christie and try to get some draft picks via S&T for Kyrie. And also try and ship out AD for more picks.

But then again, Nico is Nico so you never know what kind of dumb thing he'll do next.
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Post#1625 » by Bob8 » Tue Mar 4, 2025 5:52 pm

Archx wrote:
wco81 wrote:ACL for Kyrie.

Do the Mavs max him out this offseason?

He may miss a significant chunk of next season. A small aging guard who relies on athleticism and skill to overcome his size, now with a significant injury.


I think Nico will force the issue and go through a thick wall head first. And by that he'll try and ride out the "core" of AD and Kyrie while also trying to add KD to this entire mess.

But in my heart, i think the best thing to do for this team would be to go into a full rebuild mode. They'll still have Lively/Christie and try to get some draft picks via S&T for Kyrie. And also try and ship out AD for more picks.

But then again, Nico is Nico so you never know what kind of dumb thing he'll do next.


Kyrie will opt in. Mavs ca't give a max. to a player, who won't play next year and nobody knows how he will look after the injury. The more problematic will be decision about AD. Do you extend him, even though you don't know what kind of team you will have in 26/27? Maybe they can trade him back to LA, for Knecht. :lol:
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Post#1626 » by Archx » Tue Mar 4, 2025 6:05 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Archx wrote:
wco81 wrote:ACL for Kyrie.

Do the Mavs max him out this offseason?

He may miss a significant chunk of next season. A small aging guard who relies on athleticism and skill to overcome his size, now with a significant injury.


I think Nico will force the issue and go through a thick wall head first. And by that he'll try and ride out the "core" of AD and Kyrie while also trying to add KD to this entire mess.

But in my heart, i think the best thing to do for this team would be to go into a full rebuild mode. They'll still have Lively/Christie and try to get some draft picks via S&T for Kyrie. And also try and ship out AD for more picks.

But then again, Nico is Nico so you never know what kind of dumb thing he'll do next.


Kyrie will opt in. Mavs ca't give a max. to a player, who won't play next year and nobody knows how he will look after the injury. The more problematic will be decision about AD. Do you extend him, even though you don't know what kind of team you will have in 26/27? Maybe they can trade him back to LA, for Knecht. :lol:



Lol yeah, like i said, you never know with Nico. Kyrie will 100% opt in, ride the year out, free cash, and then sign vet min or something with Lakers to play final year with Lebron.
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Post#1627 » by Bob8 » Tue Mar 4, 2025 6:09 pm

Archx wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Archx wrote:
I think Nico will force the issue and go through a thick wall head first. And by that he'll try and ride out the "core" of AD and Kyrie while also trying to add KD to this entire mess.

But in my heart, i think the best thing to do for this team would be to go into a full rebuild mode. They'll still have Lively/Christie and try to get some draft picks via S&T for Kyrie. And also try and ship out AD for more picks.

But then again, Nico is Nico so you never know what kind of dumb thing he'll do next.


Kyrie will opt in. Mavs ca't give a max. to a player, who won't play next year and nobody knows how he will look after the injury. The more problematic will be decision about AD. Do you extend him, even though you don't know what kind of team you will have in 26/27? Maybe they can trade him back to LA, for Knecht. :lol:



Lol yeah, like i said, you never know with Nico. Kyrie will 100% opt in, ride the year out, free cash, and then sign vet min or something with Lakers to play final year with Lebron.


Lakers can give him a lot more than minimum in 26/27. The only problem is that they really don't need him, if AR stays.
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Post#1628 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Mar 4, 2025 6:47 pm

Kyrie injury is a very good thing for the Mavs (i'm sorry for him btw), so we can start the rebuild next year and don't waste our future assets for old ass KD.
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Post#1629 » by Archx » Tue Mar 4, 2025 8:18 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:Kyrie injury is a very good thing for the Mavs (i'm sorry for him btw), so we can start the rebuild next year and don't waste our future assets for old ass KD.



Looks like AD might also be out for the season now. Lol.. 3 games away from a ring to full tank mode in only 6 months. Yet the team was still much improved at the start of the season, then someone drugged Nico.

Anthony Davis could be out for the remainder of the season, per @ShamsCharania
on @PatMcAfeeShow
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Davis and his team plan to huddle up for “tough conversations” soon on his adductor injury.

Currently, the Mavericks have a 4.8% chance of landing a top-four pick in the draft.
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Post#1630 » by Teffer10 » Tue Mar 4, 2025 8:35 pm

I'm not sure why any Mavs fan would want to make the POs this year.
The only thing we have to look forward to is the extremely low chance to get the number 1 pick.
But Nico wouldn't make the obvious choice because the top player is the wrong color.
He'd probably trade it for KD.
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Post#1631 » by Dannyboy36 » Tue Mar 4, 2025 10:40 pm

I’m a Celtics fan. We are blown away in Boston. We were saying it’s just like if we dealt Tatum for AD only it’s Luka ( who is better so it’s worse). It’s unfathomable that the trade happened. If a previous deal like that Chris Paul one was blocked years ago than why not this one?
I know it’s probably good for the league having a winner in L.A. but something fishy is going on. They can’t be using the not in shape thing because AD is injury prone and the guy also disappears in 4th quarters.
They make the deal snd all of a sudden they’re talking about Kyrie like he magically got better since the deal and he’s still good enough to lead a team.
It’s all so strange. I think it’s good for if you guys don’t try to keep Kyrie now.
If this happened to my team I dint think I could watch for a year. I’m sorry . You guys are one of the best fanbases out there.
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Post#1632 » by kevin44 » Tue Mar 4, 2025 11:00 pm

Kyrie will want a new contract. I would not extend him. If you start a rebuild then AD needs to go and then you lost Luca for nothing. Too bad Cuban is not in control anymore.
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Post#1633 » by Bob8 » Tue Mar 4, 2025 11:07 pm

Grimes replacement Caleb Martin assigned to G-league. :lol: :lol: :lol: Difficult to make this comedy up. I guess he's embarrassing out of form, so they will hide him for some time.
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Post#1634 » by Archx » Wed Mar 5, 2025 12:10 am

Legendary screw up by Nico... this is also the continued effect from trading Grimes.

[Smith] Moses Brown's 10-day contract with the Dallas Mavericks has expired. The Mavericks do not have enough room under their first-apron hard cap to sign Brown to a second 10-day contract. Dallas also can't sign another player until April 10, under their current restrictions.
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Post#1635 » by wco81 » Wed Mar 5, 2025 1:54 am

I was hearing about the Mavs announcing a season ticket price increase of 8 or 9% for next year and then telling fans that it's still cheaper than buying tickets on the secondary market.

Are they for real?

Then I remember that when Cuban sold his controlling interest he claimed that he'd still run basketball operations but pretty quickly Dumont took over.

OK, it's their money and they can do what they want with the team. But the guy has no NBA experience.

In fact does he have any significant business experience? Miriam inherited her late husband's fortune and empire, so she's not a businesswoman either.

Did Dumont actually have business experience when he married into the family?

Guy sounds pretty clueless, at least poor with PR, the things he said about Luka. He's got FU money so he doesn't have to be polite but you don't burn people if you're in business.
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Post#1636 » by dirkules_41 » Wed Mar 5, 2025 9:55 am

I need a break from this ****.
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Post#1637 » by arkuo » Fri Mar 7, 2025 12:48 pm

If you were the Mavs, do you shut down AD for the rest of the season or do you try to play him again once available?
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Post#1638 » by Mavrelous » Fri Mar 7, 2025 5:02 pm

arkuo wrote:If you were the Mavs, do you shut down AD for the rest of the season or do you try to play him again once available?

Shutdown of course, I don't there is any other possibility
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Post#1639 » by arkuo » Fri Mar 7, 2025 5:09 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
arkuo wrote:If you were the Mavs, do you shut down AD for the rest of the season or do you try to play him again once available?

Shutdown of course, I don't there is any other possibility


I'm on team tank. But with Jeanie Buss recently coming out and throwing AD under the bus, I'm just not sure that AD would want to miss that April 9 encounter.

Actually Jeanie could have just not said anything at all. Wonder why she had to throw shade at AD.

Logical thing to do is to shut the stars down and play for a top 10 pick.
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Post#1640 » by Mavrelous » Fri Mar 7, 2025 5:55 pm

arkuo wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
arkuo wrote:If you were the Mavs, do you shut down AD for the rest of the season or do you try to play him again once available?

Shutdown of course, I don't there is any other possibility


I'm on team tank. But with Jeanie Buss recently coming out and throwing AD under the bus, I'm just not sure that AD would want to miss that April 9 encounter.

Actually Jeanie could have just not said anything at all. Wonder why she had to throw shade at AD.

Logical thing to do is to shut the stars down and play for a top 10 pick.

I think Jeanie did him a favour, like Broussard said, Luka >> healthy Davis willing to play center, this at least makes it look it wasn't the talent gap and positional disavreement that made them give him up.
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