Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread

[Bob8]

I have seen more agressive traffic cones than THJ is on defense to be honest.

I know that you rember Dinwiddie's last year in Mavs. How he looked in D?

Let's just say i would rather have Trae Young on defense than THJ

I insist, what about Dinwiddie? If you're not sure, you can look at your last year's posts.

THJ with D would be worth near max. Luka with D would be in conversation for GOAT. Kyrie playing 70+ games would never came in Mavs. Dinwiddie worth his contract wouldn't never been waived.

[41Dirk41]

I prefer Gallinari over Dinwiddie...

To do what exactly?

Don street clothes on game day

Gallo from the bench is an absolutely luxury... He can do a lot of things on the court, he has exp and leadership and he is a great lockeroom guy.
Of course if he is healthy.

Dinwiddie is almost useless here, we are stacked in his role and i think he wants minutes.

[Archx]

I know that you rember Dinwiddie's last year in Mavs. How he looked in D?

Let's just say i would rather have Trae Young on defense than THJ

I insist, what about Dinwiddie? If you're not sure, you can look at your last year's posts.

THJ with D would be worth near max. Luka with D would be in conversation for GOAT. Kyrie playing 70+ games would never came in Mavs. Dinwiddie worth his contract wouldn't never been waived.

Dinwiddie wasn't anything special on defense, that's true, but i think he did try vs Luka the other day and didn't to that bad. He wasn't good in playoffs on defense but i think he's taller or at least longer than THJ which can benefit him. But to answer your question straight up, i would rather see Dinwiddie on defense than THJ and i would also trust him with the ball a lot more since THJ is a like a Wile E. Coyote out there.

[Bob8]

Let's just say i would rather have Trae Young on defense than THJ

I insist, what about Dinwiddie? If you're not sure, you can look at your last year's posts.

THJ with D would be worth near max. Luka with D would be in conversation for GOAT. Kyrie playing 70+ games would never came in Mavs. Dinwiddie worth his contract wouldn't never been waived.

Dinwiddie wasn't anything special on defense, that's true, but i think he did try vs Luka the other day and didn't to that bad. He wasn't good in playoffs on defense but i think he's taller or at least longer than THJ which can benefit him. But to answer your question straight up, i would rather see Dinwiddie on defense than THJ and i would also trust him with the ball a lot more since THJ is a like a Wile E. Coyote out there.

No, you have been saying that he's disaster in D. And he was.

There's only 1 problem, Mavs far the best position is Pg, do we really need another Pg on the team? I don't care for this year, but you can bet that Dinwiddie will come only, if they promise him new solid contract. So there's going away possible upgrade on the wing. Him being very friendly with Kidd is meaning 1 more support for our beloved coach.

[Archx]

I insist, what about Dinwiddie? If you're not sure, you can look at your last year's posts.

THJ with D would be worth near max. Luka with D would be in conversation for GOAT. Kyrie playing 70+ games would never came in Mavs. Dinwiddie worth his contract wouldn't never been waived.

Dinwiddie wasn't anything special on defense, that's true, but i think he did try vs Luka the other day and didn't to that bad. He wasn't good in playoffs on defense but i think he's taller or at least longer than THJ which can benefit him. But to answer your question straight up, i would rather see Dinwiddie on defense than THJ and i would also trust him with the ball a lot more since THJ is a like a Wile E. Coyote out there.

There's only 1 problem, Mavs far the best position is Pg, do we really need another Pg on the team? I don't care for this year, but you can bet that Dinwiddie will come only, if they promise him new solid contract. Him being very friendly with Kidd is meaning 1 more support for our beloved coach.

Yeah i see your dilemma but i personally never saw him as a PG... He actually played like a SG when he was with Mavs. So i think he will fit right in if he comes back.
Like you say all the time THJ should only be a spot up shooter, something like Seth Curry was in his best days but THJ is simply way out of control, even on his good nights he's a roller coaster. I think Dinwiddie could bridge that a bit and give Mavs an extra kick off the bench to maybe limit THJ's dribbles. This is where i see his value.

[Bob8]

Dinwiddie wasn't anything special on defense, that's true, but i think he did try vs Luka the other day and didn't to that bad. He wasn't good in playoffs on defense but i think he's taller or at least longer than THJ which can benefit him. But to answer your question straight up, i would rather see Dinwiddie on defense than THJ and i would also trust him with the ball a lot more since THJ is a like a Wile E. Coyote out there.

There's only 1 problem, Mavs far the best position is Pg, do we really need another Pg on the team? I don't care for this year, but you can bet that Dinwiddie will come only, if they promise him new solid contract. Him being very friendly with Kidd is meaning 1 more support for our beloved coach.

Yeah i see your dilemma but i personally never saw him as a PG... He actually played like a SG when he was with Mavs. So i think he will fit right in if he comes back.
Like you say all the time THJ should only be a spot up shooter, something like Seth Curry was in his best days but THJ is simply way out of control, even on his good nights he's a roller coaster. I think Dinwiddie could bridge that a bit and give Mavs an extra kick off the bench to maybe limit THJ's dribbles. This is where i see his value.

THJ dribbles can and should be limited by Kidd.

There's no real minutes available for Dinwiddie, if Exum is healthy. He can get Hardy's minutes at best. And Hardy is getting hardly any, when team is healthy.

I will give you some last year's on/off defensive numbers. Mavs were 7 points better in D with Dinwiddie on the bench, which was far the worst number of any player. I hope people are not expecting much from him in D.

[dirkules_41]

To do what exactly?

Don street clothes on game day

Gallo from the bench is an absolutely luxury... He can do a lot of things on the court, he has exp and leadership and he is a great lockeroom guy.
Of course if he is healthy.

Dinwiddie is almost useless here, we are stacked in his role and i think he wants minutes.

3 years ago maybe, you might have missed a bit of time since then. At this point I wouldn't see much value in having Gallo other than being able to use his italianness to have someone make drinkable coffee for the rest of the team.

[Mavrelous]

Gallo looked aweful in both Wizards and Pistons, he was a great player, if he wasn't Celtics wouldn't have spent the TPMLE on him, but he's done after his ACL.

[deb]

There's only 1 problem, Mavs far the best position is Pg, do we really need another Pg on the team? I don't care for this year, but you can bet that Dinwiddie will come only, if they promise him new solid contract. Him being very friendly with Kidd is meaning 1 more support for our beloved coach.

Yeah i see your dilemma but i personally never saw him as a PG... He actually played like a SG when he was with Mavs. So i think he will fit right in if he comes back.
Like you say all the time THJ should only be a spot up shooter, something like Seth Curry was in his best days but THJ is simply way out of control, even on his good nights he's a roller coaster. I think Dinwiddie could bridge that a bit and give Mavs an extra kick off the bench to maybe limit THJ's dribbles. This is where i see his value.

THJ dribbles can and should be limited by Kidd.

There's no real minutes available for Dinwiddie, if Exum is healthy. He can get Hardy's minutes at best. And Hardy is getting hardly any, when team is healthy.

I will give you some last year's on/off defensive numbers. Mavs were 7 points better in D with Dinwiddie on the bench, which was far the worst number of any player. I hope people are not expecting much from him in D.

The thing is, the NBA has something called the salary cap. Dallas can't offer anyone a big contract because they are over it. So they won't be signing any quality wings in free agency

So if you sign Dinwiddie to a reasonable contract, you can then trade THJ's expiring contract together with say Kleber or Green and 2 first rd picks for a legit starting pf and still keep dinwiddie as your 6th man

If you don't sign Dinwiddie you can still trade THJ and other stuff for a pf, but are then left without a 6th man of the year candidate (or hoping Hardy turns into one).

That's why I would gladly welcome back Dinwiddie, even though he's probably not better than THJ (but more versatile as he can play pg if needed)...

I have zero faith in Exum's health. To me counting on him to provide stable rotational minutes sound nuts. And Hardy is bad, irredeemably so imo.

[Bob8]

Yeah i see your dilemma but i personally never saw him as a PG... He actually played like a SG when he was with Mavs. So i think he will fit right in if he comes back.
Like you say all the time THJ should only be a spot up shooter, something like Seth Curry was in his best days but THJ is simply way out of control, even on his good nights he's a roller coaster. I think Dinwiddie could bridge that a bit and give Mavs an extra kick off the bench to maybe limit THJ's dribbles. This is where i see his value.

THJ dribbles can and should be limited by Kidd.

There's no real minutes available for Dinwiddie, if Exum is healthy. He can get Hardy's minutes at best. And Hardy is getting hardly any, when team is healthy.

I will give you some last year's on/off defensive numbers. Mavs were 7 points better in D with Dinwiddie on the bench, which was far the worst number of any player. I hope people are not expecting much from him in D.

The thing is, the NBA has something called the salary cap. Dallas can't offer anyone a big contract because they are over it. So they won't be signing any quality wings in free agency

So if you sign Dinwiddie to a reasonable contract, you can then trade THJ's expiring contract together with say Kleber or Green and 2 first rd picks for a legit starting pf and still keep dinwiddie as your 6th man

If you don't sign Dinwiddie you can still trade THJ and other stuff for a pf, but are then left without a 6th man of the year candidate (or hoping Hardy turns into one).

That's why I would gladly welcome back Dinwiddie, even though he's probably not better than THJ (but more versatile as he can play pg if needed)...

I have zero faith in Exum's health. To me counting on him to provide stable rotational minutes sound nuts. And Hardy is bad, irredeemably so imo.

If you gave up on Exum, then Dinwiddie would be logical choice, if Exum plays, he's is just useless. And there's still question how long and how big contract they give to him. Knowing his connection with Kidd, I'm pretty scared there.

We have to understand something about THJ, shots he's taking are product of Luka offense, when all things are not going optimal, and will always be there, but nobody else except THJ is capable of taking and making them. Josh&co is well capable of taking those corner 3s and wide open 3s. Give them THJ's shots and result won't be nowhere near to what THJ is doing.

[deb]

THJ dribbles can and should be limited by Kidd.

There's no real minutes available for Dinwiddie, if Exum is healthy. He can get Hardy's minutes at best. And Hardy is getting hardly any, when team is healthy.

I will give you some last year's on/off defensive numbers. Mavs were 7 points better in D with Dinwiddie on the bench, which was far the worst number of any player. I hope people are not expecting much from him in D.

The thing is, the NBA has something called the salary cap. Dallas can't offer anyone a big contract because they are over it. So they won't be signing any quality wings in free agency

So if you sign Dinwiddie to a reasonable contract, you can then trade THJ's expiring contract together with say Kleber or Green and 2 first rd picks for a legit starting pf and still keep dinwiddie as your 6th man

If you don't sign Dinwiddie you can still trade THJ and other stuff for a pf, but are then left without a 6th man of the year candidate (or hoping Hardy turns into one).

That's why I would gladly welcome back Dinwiddie, even though he's probably not better than THJ (but more versatile as he can play pg if needed)...

I have zero faith in Exum's health. To me counting on him to provide stable rotational minutes sound nuts. And Hardy is bad, irredeemably so imo.

If you gave up on Exum, then Dinwiddie would be logical choice, if Exum plays, he's is just useless. And there's still question how long and how big contract they give to him. Knowing his connection with Kidd, I'm pretty scared there.

We have to understand something about THJ, shots he's taking are product of Luka offense, when all things are not going optimal, and will always be there, but nobody else except THJ is capable of taking and making them. Josh&co is well capable of taking those corner 3s and wide open 3s. Give them THJ's shots and result won't be nowhere near to what THJ is doing.

Mavs are severely limited in how much money they can offer Dinwiddie, it couldn't be that bad, haven't looked it up though.

And Dinwiddie shot 40.4% on 5.8 3pt attempts per game for Dallas in 76 games... THJ is currently doing 36.8% on 8.8 attempts. I don't see that much of a drop off there.

[41Dirk41]

Don street clothes on game day

Gallo from the bench is an absolutely luxury... He can do a lot of things on the court, he has exp and leadership and he is a great lockeroom guy.
Of course if he is healthy.

Dinwiddie is almost useless here, we are stacked in his role and i think he wants minutes.

3 years ago maybe, you might have missed a bit of time since then. At this point I wouldn't see much value in having Gallo other than being able to use his italianness to have someone make drinkable coffee for the rest of the team.

Man, your words are so tough.
Probably you are right but we have a open roster spot so someone will be signed.
Gallo is a veteran with great attitude and exp, at vet min is a cheap try. No more.

[41Dirk41]

Marcus Morris or Thad Young could be good pickup too... Our backcourt is stacked, another wing can help.

[BliscoSantos]

Marcus Morris or Thad Young could be good pickup too... Our backcourt is stacked, another wing can help.

I don't like the one Morris that's already on the team,no way I'd want the other one...Markieff was only resigned cause it made Kyrie happy,Marcus looks washed...he was let go from the Clippers and the Sixers..how is he gonna help the Mavs... he's not a SF, he's a PF...Mavs are good there (PJ, Kleber),at least for this year...Just sign Dinwiddie...Exum is always injured(as is Kyrie), besides,the 3 guard lineups worked(Luka,JB,Brunson) ,maybe Luka,Kai and Dinwiddie can too(in some situations)...Luka has the size for a SF, Dinwiddie for a SG and they finaly have two real C's and a PF

[dirkules_41]

Gallo from the bench is an absolutely luxury... He can do a lot of things on the court, he has exp and leadership and he is a great lockeroom guy.
Of course if he is healthy.

Dinwiddie is almost useless here, we are stacked in his role and i think he wants minutes.

3 years ago maybe, you might have missed a bit of time since then. At this point I wouldn't see much value in having Gallo other than being able to use his italianness to have someone make drinkable coffee for the rest of the team.

Man, your words are so tough.
Probably you are right but we have a open roster spot so someone will be signed.
Gallo is a veteran with great attitude and exp, at vet min is a cheap try. No more.

If he could still shoot he could have some 2011 Peja style role but his stats suggests he can't anymore.
And that and shot creation used to be his main skills.

[BliscoSantos]

Lakers will be targeting Young,Mitchell and Kyrie in the offseason....I think Kyrie will the last resort if they can't get the other two...Mitchell is probably NY bound(Knicks or Brooklyn) ,Young could head to LA...it seems Snyder prefers Murray(he's been playing good and is on abetter contract)... Hawks could be willing to let Trey go

[ejs78]

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[Mavrelous]

Mavs can pay him the most, but they will need to go into tax.

[ejs78]

Woof:

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[41Dirk41]

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SD could give extra rest to Luka and Kyrie... Mostly with Exum-sanity already ended.