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Re: Harrison Barnes 

Post#181 » by Texas Chuck » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:17 pm

SOUNDCHASER wrote:Anderson and Barnes need to play together and grow some chemistry. Wes I wonder if we can use him as a PG any?



The way you get all 3 on the court at the same time will be to play Barnes at the 4, Justin at the 3, and Wes at the 2. And yes I expect we will see that.

None of those guys can remotely play PG.
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Post#182 » by Dirk » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:18 pm

I uploaded his plays against Argentina. The only one missing is a wide open three pointer he missed. It was interesting how willing he was to take on 1x1 plays. He looked very confortable vs this opposition.

Barnes vs Argentina
https://streamable.com/15ak
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Re: Harrison Barnes 

Post#183 » by JamesConway » Sat Jul 23, 2016 3:55 pm

Dirk Nowitzki wrote:I uploaded his plays against Argentina. The only one missing is a wide open three pointer he missed. It was interesting how willing he was to take on 1x1 plays. He looked very confortable vs this opposition.

Barnes vs Argentina
https://streamable.com/15ak

Thanks a lot! Also for your updates on Brussino over the last weeks. Very informative :nod:
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Post#184 » by Dirk » Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:02 pm

JamesConway wrote:
Dirk Nowitzki wrote:I uploaded his plays against Argentina. The only one missing is a wide open three pointer he missed. It was interesting how willing he was to take on 1x1 plays. He looked very confortable vs this opposition.

Barnes vs Argentina
https://streamable.com/15ak

Thanks a lot! Also for your updates on Brussino over the last weeks. Very informative :nod:

No problem. Hopefully the Mavs Olympians play enough minutes to keep us interested the next few weeks.
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Post#185 » by SOUNDCHASER » Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:06 am

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d1n102RPII[/youtube]

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Re: Harrison Barnes 

Post#186 » by Suka Bongcic » Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:28 pm

SOUNDCHASER wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d1n102RPII[/youtube]


I think I've watched that dunk on Pekovic (opening highlight 1st video) over 1000 times by now. So nasty. Haven't seen him even attempt a jam like that since. He needs to, because his finishing close to the rim is frustrating.
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Post#187 » by Suka Bongcic » Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:31 pm

Darren wrote:Yes, I read the scouting report on Barnes. He's been described as good catch-and-shooter; with tools to be effective defender; strong work ethics and good basketball IQ; struggle to create shots for himself (except getting shots off 1-2 dribbes) or others. I think we'll disappoint somewhat if we use him as playmakers. I'd rather we just use him as catch-n-shooter off some behind-and-seek. Let him familiar with his teamates and find some rhythms before asking him to go all the way to a role exceptionally strange to him.

We've a lot to offer as a team. We've got post-up, motion-offense, pick-n-roll, pick-n-path, alley-ops, backdoor cuts, putbacks, passing game, one-on-one and potentially inside-out at some point of the future when AJ's matures. I can care less about his playmaking. He will develop him when he's comfortable with. We don't need a single textbook / recipe for success. I think Barnes can be highly successful as a Peja-like player. From the one-on-one practice, I find that you're right: he doesn't gamble for steals / blocks. He doesn't bite on pump fakes. He just put pressures when the opponents put the ball on the ground. And he contests shots when it sets off. People do not realize how good he is. From my observations, he's the second best defenders on the US team next to Jimmer Butler. He's the only one that do not bite on pump fakes and do not allow offensive players to drive pass him. Not even Kyrie Irving. However, there's something strange to me. He shoots 100%. He never puts the ball on the gound. Reggie Miller / Peja Stojakovic is the role better suited him. And his 7-foot wingspan and foot speed help him tremendously as a versatile defender. If we ask him to bulk up, he won't be effective again. I'd rather keep him running. Not trying to be the go-to guy. We don't need a clear first/second/third option. We're some versatile. We should dictate the matchup from nightly basis. Otherwise, it's difficult from minutes distribution and stamina management standpoint.

That's a reach. Draymond is a much better defender. Muuuuuuch better. Klay is a better defender guarding 1-3. Paul George is a better defender. He might be the fifth best, still pretty good though.
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Post#188 » by Darren » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:02 am

I mean he's the 2nd best defend in that video. Maybe all draymond, Klay and George haven't played in the one-on-one practice. He's obviously the second most disciplined defenders after Jimmer Butler. He always stayed in front of his man and contested the shots until the end. In most possessions, offensive players were forced to take contested jumpers. Nearly no one drived pass him in the video.
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Post#189 » by Dirk » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:41 pm

Harrison Barnes vs China
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Re: Harrison Barnes 

Post#190 » by Darren » Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:38 pm

That Chinese Tony Parker, Guo, is interesting.
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Post#191 » by Dirk » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:19 pm

Harrison Barnes article on theundefeated.com
“The decision was more so made for me,” Barnes said. “I was not necessarily walking away from the situation. I wasn’t saying, ‘I don’t want to be here. I want to go there.’ But at the same time, I’m very excited about Dallas. It gives me an opportunity to grow.”
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Post#192 » by Dirk » Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:12 pm

Barnes vs China (26/7): https://streamable.com/cew0

It's been interesting to notice that Barnes has averaged more minutes on the floor than people like Draymond Green. I wonder if it's just because these are exibition games or maybe it's a sign that Barnes may have a bigger role than anticipated at the Olympics.
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Post#193 » by Darren » Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:32 pm

Draymond Green is not playing too well. That's what I observed. Maybe it's simply because the international refs do not tolerate kicking. Indeed, Barnes played solid defense on Yi Jianlian.
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Post#194 » by Darren » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:22 am

He added: “You know, defensively, I think it will be a lot of the same things — guarding twos, threes, fours. Maybe occasionally fives on a switch or something like that. You know, offensively, just being more integrated in the offense. Not necessarily as many catch-and-shoot corner threes, but kind of mixing in some different looks. … The biggest thing we’ve talked about is more touches doesn’t necessarily mean more shots; it’s more decisions you have to make. Just ’cause you’re getting the ball more, that’s an opportunity to set up a teammate, an opportunity to keep the ball moving, and that’s an opportunity to pick your spots. You know, now it’s not going to be the situation where you get the ball at the end of the shot clock and it’s a corner three, or if you have a wide-open shot and you shoot it. It’s going to be, ‘Ok, when do I pass? When do I shoot? When do I try to get to the free-throw line? What’s the time of the game to get an isolation?’ Those are the things that [Carlisle] talked about helping me through, and I’m just excited to be in that position.”
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Re: Harrison Barnes 

Post#195 » by Suka Bongcic » Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:53 am

Can't wait to see him and the mavs suit up and get after if next season. Just a few months away! Just be patient with him. He's not going to be "worth" a max contract to 99% of you guys. He's going to miss a lot of close easy shots and lose the handle on many an around the back dribble. But he'll play tough disciplined D and give it his all. If he can get his confidence going at the start of the season, he very well may grow into being worth a max deal. Just be patient.
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Post#196 » by Mr B » Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:55 am

Black Falcon wrote:Can't wait to see him and the mavs suit up and get after if next season. Just a few months away! Just be patient with him. He's not going to be "worth" a max contract to 99% of you guys. He's going to miss a lot of close easy shots and lose the handle on many an around the back dribble. But he'll play tough disciplined D and give it his all. If he can get his confidence going at the start of the season, he very well may grow into being worth a max deal. Just be patient.


I agree. It's going to take him some time. We should see him make some pretty amazing plays this season though. And the defense will be there. That part of his game should already be there. I'm pretty excited to see Barnes play for the Mavs but I'm also pretty excited to see Curry and Bogut too.
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Re: Harrison Barnes 

Post#197 » by HMFFL » Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:36 pm

Can These Players Handle The Pressure?

Harrison Barnes, Small Forward, Dallas Mavericks

Ever since Barnes entered the league, he’s been a role player on a stacked team. Barnes possesses an overall satisfying game. He can step out to the three-point line, decently defend multiple positions and even be a double-digit scoring threat on a nightly basis.

But now armed with a four-year deal worth $90 million with the Dallas Mavericks, he will be expected to play at a much higher level every single night. Barnes will be without the protection of All-Stars such as Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson and Draymond Green after leaving the comfy confines of the Golden State Warriors organization.

In Dallas, Barnes enters a situation still in a bit of a transition with future Hall of Famer Dirk Nowitzki playing his final days. The hope in Dallas is that Barnes’ upside will allow him to grow leaps and bounds and that he could eventually flirt with an All-Star bid. This may be too high of an expectation in year one, but can Barnes develop into an upper-tier performer after the change of scenery? He’ll have every opportunity to shine and finally maximize his full potential, but it’s on him to make that leap.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-am-can-these-players-handle-the-pressure/
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Re: Harrison Barnes 

Post#198 » by Dirk » Sat Jul 30, 2016 2:12 pm

Highs and lows from his 11 minutes vs Venezuela

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Re: Harrison Barnes 

Post#199 » by Darren » Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:58 pm

Growing pain is there. At least, he's got a chance from coach K. He should have shown something in practice. However, I'd rather see him moving off ball at this point. He's not turning the ball over. This is a good sign. However, he seems to have no idea with the ball on his hands. Hopefully, he gets better next time. Thanks for sharing.
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Post#200 » by Suka Bongcic » Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:01 am

Darren wrote:Growing pain is there. At least, he's got a chance from coach K. He should have shown something in practice. However, I'd rather see him moving off ball at this point. He's not turning the ball over. This is a good sign. However, he seems to have no idea with the ball on his hands. Hopefully, he gets better next time. Thanks for sharing.

He knows where to go with the ball in catch and pass ball Rotations. He can be pretty awful on the dribble drive. Both passing and shooting. Needs lots of work after he puts the ball on the floor for more than a dribble or 2

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