Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1)

daoneandonly · Post #181 » by **daoneandonly** » Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:26 pm

arkuo wrote:Here's a tough one.

Would you trade Porzingis for Karl Anthony Towns?

Many may be quick to say yes and mention that no way would Minny do so, and they very well may be correct on the latter. But KP's defense is invaluable to this team, I dont think it would be that easy of a deicsion should it ever be an option

dirkforpres · Post #182 » by **dirkforpres** » Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:22 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
arkuo wrote:Here's a tough one.

Would you trade Porzingis for Karl Anthony Towns?

Many may be quick to say yes and mention that no way would Minny do so, and they very well may be correct on the latter. But KP's defense is invaluable to this team, I dont think it would be that easy of a deicsion should it ever be an option

You can coach defense, which is why notoriously bad defenders like Harden and even Dirk became at least decent defenders after a few years with coaches that cared to teach them how to.

That being said, no way Towns gets traded for Porzingis. Both teams would say no

J_T · Post #183 » by **J_T** » Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:24 pm

I'm not trading KP for KAT. KAT is much better offensively, but it's not like Dallas needs that much more offense. On the other hand KAT has regressed tremendously in defense this season and currently ranks (guess)

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in defensive RPM. I honestly believe that team would be worse with KAT right now. I think that KP is a better fit for many reasons. KAT I see as problematic character as well. Not because he'd been a bad gangsta, quite the opposite. Seems to be a ... well not gonna say more. Watch "10 things KAT can't live without" video on YT. To me that was cringey and not something I want to see in a championship contender leader. I didn't know what Butler's problem was in Minny but I think I have an idea now. KAT will never win anything. Winner is the last word I would associate with him.

tribulations · Post #184 » by **tribulations** » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:30 am

We're not trading Porzingis. We signed him to a hefty extension and he has built a chemistry with Luka/the team. Shouldn't even be brought up imo, we are all in on these two guys.

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Imon · Post #185 » by **Imon** » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:50 pm

I doubt KAT is a serious topic of discussion in the Mavs front office.

Mavs have their "franchise player" in Luka, they already gave up two future 1st-rounders for KP, and KP is playing his first season off from injury. Besides, if you're Minny KAT is still under contract for a long time. I doubt there was serious discussion about trading him to begin with this was probably other league executives trying to f**k with the Wolves by leaking rumors to local team reporters.

dirkforpres · Post #186 » by **dirkforpres** » Wed Jan 1, 2020 7:11 pm

I think Jackson, Lee, Powell, and Brunson should all be floated around in trade discussions over the next month. Not sure what all that can get us, but I hope they’re willing to find out.

arkuo · Post #187 » by **arkuo** » Wed Jan 1, 2020 7:26 pm

dirkforpres wrote:I think Jackson, Lee, Powell, and Brunson should all be floated around in trade discussions over the next month. Not sure what all that can get us, but I hope they’re willing to find out.

These losses pile up and Cuban might be tempted to send that Golden State 2nd rounder to Memphis for Iguodala.

Jackson + Lee should get us a starting PF. Powell might be off the table. It's funny because Harrison Barnes would have been a nice PF here. With Dewayne Dedmon also asked for a trade. Might be worth looking. Im sure Courtney Lee's expiring would do it. However I dont think Cuban would. Takes us out of the 2021 Free agency.

dirkforpres · Post #188 » by **dirkforpres** » Wed Jan 1, 2020 7:31 pm

arkuo wrote:
dirkforpres wrote:I think Jackson, Lee, Powell, and Brunson should all be floated around in trade discussions over the next month. Not sure what all that can get us, but I hope they’re willing to find out.

These losses pile up and Cuban might be tempted to send that Golden State 2nd rounder to Memphis for Iguodala.

Jackson + Lee should get us a starting PF. Powell might be off the table. It's funny because Harrison Barnes would have been a nice PF here. With Dewayne Dedmon also asked for a trade. Might be worth looking. Im sure Courtney Lee's expiring would do it. However I dont think Cuban would. Takes us out of the 2021 Free agency.

I can only think of 5 guys on this roster that I can’t see Dallas trading:

Luka, Porzingis, Kleber, DFS, and THJ.

Everyone else should at least be on the table for looking for a legitimate 5th starter, preferably a better paint protector/rim runner.

Iggy and Crowder should both be guys we target at the deadline as well

arkuo · Post #189 » by **arkuo** » Wed Jan 1, 2020 7:37 pm

dirkforpres wrote:
arkuo wrote:
dirkforpres wrote:I think Jackson, Lee, Powell, and Brunson should all be floated around in trade discussions over the next month. Not sure what all that can get us, but I hope they’re willing to find out.

These losses pile up and Cuban might be tempted to send that Golden State 2nd rounder to Memphis for Iguodala.

Jackson + Lee should get us a starting PF. Powell might be off the table. It's funny because Harrison Barnes would have been a nice PF here. With Dewayne Dedmon also asked for a trade. Might be worth looking. Im sure Courtney Lee's expiring would do it. However I dont think Cuban would. Takes us out of the 2021 Free agency.

I can only think of 5 guys on this roster that I can’t see Dallas trading:

Luka, Porzingis, Kleber, DFS, and THJ.

Everyone else should at least be on the table for looking for a legitimate 5th starter, preferably a better paint protector/rim runner.

Iggy and Crowder should both be guys we target at the deadline as well

Iggy + Crowder would be a nice playoff boost.

Just please no Kevin Love.

jpengland · Post #190 » by **jpengland** » Wed Jan 1, 2020 10:01 pm

arkuo wrote:Here's a tough one.

Would you trade Porzingis for Karl Anthony Towns?

Nope. In a vacuum Towns is clearly the superior player but as a poor defender at the 5 he makes building a true winner very difficult.

Towns is a poor rim protector and always will be.

Doncic is our lead scorer and having a big who protects the rim and stretches the floor is ideal alongside him.

jpengland · Post #191 » by **jpengland** » Wed Jan 1, 2020 10:02 pm

arkuo wrote:
dirkforpres wrote:I think Jackson, Lee, Powell, and Brunson should all be floated around in trade discussions over the next month. Not sure what all that can get us, but I hope they’re willing to find out.

These losses pile up and Cuban might be tempted to send that Golden State 2nd rounder to Memphis for Iguodala.

Jackson + Lee should get us a starting PF. Powell might be off the table. It's funny because Harrison Barnes would have been a nice PF here. With Dewayne Dedmon also asked for a trade. Might be worth looking. Im sure Courtney Lee's expiring would do it. However I dont think Cuban would. Takes us out of the 2021 Free agency.

Dedmon only has 1m guaranteed in 2021/22.

I still wouldn't trade for him, we have plenty of bigs, but it doesn't harm 2021.

Pinkyring · Post #192 » by **Pinkyring** » Thu Jan 2, 2020 2:25 am

The idea that anyone wouldn't trade kp for towns is freaking absurd, towns is dominant offensively and decent defensively, kp is good defensively and decent offensively. Once you factor in towns is healthier and doesn't have off the court issues it's a no brainer. You can literally run out 3 defenders who dont score much at all and we'd still be much better. Luka should be the only untouchable on this team

daoneandonly · Post #193 » by **daoneandonly** » Fri Jan 3, 2020 6:32 pm

I'd like to see us go after a guy who can be a 3/4 and play along side DFS and THJ in the starting lineup. We need another good wing defender, especially when we play the likes of the Clippers, Rockets, etc. DFS cant do it alone, THJ and Luka try, they do, but they just arent equipped with the skill set to do it

Teffer10 · Post #194 » by **Teffer10** » Fri Jan 3, 2020 7:36 pm

daoneandonly wrote:I'd like to see us go after a guy who can be a 3/4 and play along side DFS and THJ in the starting lineup. We need another good wing defender, especially when we play the likes of the Clippers, Rockets, etc. DFS cant do it alone, THJ and Luka try, they do, but they just arent equipped with the skill set to do it

Hate to sound like a broken record but Marcus Morris should become available for a trade and would be perfect to fill that need.
Luka/THJ/DFS/Morris/KP would be one hell of a balanced SL with pretty damn good size.

daoneandonly · Post #195 » by **daoneandonly** » Fri Jan 3, 2020 7:38 pm

Teffer10 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:I'd like to see us go after a guy who can be a 3/4 and play along side DFS and THJ in the starting lineup. We need another good wing defender, especially when we play the likes of the Clippers, Rockets, etc. DFS cant do it alone, THJ and Luka try, they do, but they just arent equipped with the skill set to do it

Hate to sound like a broken record but Marcus Morris should become available for a trade and would be perfect to fill that need.

I dont necessarily disagree, Im just leery of getting a guy with questionable character, as we've seen how that story ends with Rondo and Odom.

Teffer10 · Post #196 » by **Teffer10** » Fri Jan 3, 2020 7:48 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:I'd like to see us go after a guy who can be a 3/4 and play along side DFS and THJ in the starting lineup. We need another good wing defender, especially when we play the likes of the Clippers, Rockets, etc. DFS cant do it alone, THJ and Luka try, they do, but they just arent equipped with the skill set to do it

Hate to sound like a broken record but Marcus Morris should become available for a trade and would be perfect to fill that need.

I dont necessarily disagree, Im just leery of getting a guy with questionable character, as we've seen how that story ends with Rondo and Odom.

Rick seems to like some players with attitude....he's even mentioned it.
Jackson, Artest and DeShawn Stevenson all fit in the same mold as Morris and I personally think our team is missing that type of player.

Morris brings strength to our frontcourt, solid D at 3/4, another 3pt threat, rebounding, and a bully attitude.

Teffer10 · Post #197 » by **Teffer10** » Fri Jan 3, 2020 8:04 pm

Who are some TPE candidates?

ejs78 · Post #198 » by **ejs78** » Fri Jan 3, 2020 8:14 pm

The trade talk for Drummond here in Detroit has begun. Pistons taking to Hawks and others (maybe Dallas)

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Teffer10 · Post #199 » by **Teffer10** » Fri Jan 3, 2020 9:14 pm

ejs78 wrote:The trade talk for Drummond here in Detroit has begun. Pistons taking to Hawks and others (maybe Dallas)

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Can't imagine Drummond being a target for the Mavs unless Detroit is willing to take Powell which I doubt they would have interest.
There is no way the Mavs will trade THJ for someone like Drummond and I doubt they would give up Brunson.
Powell/Lee/Jackson/GSW Pick would be something I would consider but think Detroit would get better offers.

I'd be shocked if Mavs give up any assets for a center.

ejs78 · Post #200 » by **ejs78** » Fri Jan 3, 2020 9:45 pm

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2869589-andre-drummond-trade-rumors-hawks-discussing-move-for-pistons-star-center

Teffer10 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:The trade talk for Drummond here in Detroit has begun. Pistons taking to Hawks and others (maybe Dallas)

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Can't imagine Drummond being a target for the Mavs unless Detroit is willing to take Powell which I doubt they would have interest.
There is no way the Mavs will trade THJ for someone like Drummond and I doubt they would give up Brunson.
Powell/Lee/Jackson/GSW Pick would be something I would consider but think Detroit would get better offers.

I'd be shocked if Mavs give up any assets for a center.

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