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read somehwere that since the Lakers announced the Shroeder trade, the Horford trade with the Sixers and OKC cannot be expanded and Horford will be taken in to OKC's cap space. This means they have to rennounce all their free agents preventing sign and trades. This includes Danilo Galinari. So maybe that's the hold up there.
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The team needs a big man bad. The rotation of Maxi/Powell/Boban with KP out isn't gonna cut it.
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agentofatlas wrote:Mr B wrote:dirkules_41 wrote:Between the 3 picks we added vs losing Seth I'm not sure it did overall. But yes Seth is definitely by far the best individual shooter of the bunch.
Best shooter of the bunch but not the best player. That’s Richardson.
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I dunno, Richardson kinda sucked in Philly. At least in the games I've watched. I'm optimistic that he'll play better with RC on the helm.
Everyone in a Sixers jersey kinda sucked last year. Name one player who exceeded expectations or even matched them last year. They were a total **** vs expectations.
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agentofatlas wrote:The team needs a big man bad. The rotation of Maxi/Powell/Boban with KP out isn't gonna cut it.
Agreed, we better get WCS back and even then I think more help is needed.
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agentofatlas wrote:The team needs a big man bad. The rotation of Maxi/Powell/Boban with KP out isn't gonna cut it.
One of Galinari, Milsap or even Jermai Grant needs to land in Dallas by Monday next week.
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arkuo wrote:agentofatlas wrote:The team needs a big man bad. The rotation of Maxi/Powell/Boban with KP out isn't gonna cut it.
One of Galinari, Milsap or even Jermai Grant needs to land in Dallas by Monday next week.
I'm with you on that one arkuo Maxi looked pretty bad in the playoffs and I like Maxi he is a nice rotation player off the bench I would take any of the three you mentioned with Grant being my best choice.
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arkuo wrote:jpengland wrote:Hate this move.
Curry was a perfect fit with this roster and had a fantastic contract. Richardson flatters to deceive, when you get into the numbers on him, he really is not impactful at all, I used to quite like him but when you dig into it he just doesn't impact the game.
I think overall it's a +.
Curry's floor spacing will be easily replaced by Terry
Who is Terry? Is he an all time great NBA 3pt shooter as well? Have you even watched Mavs bench unit last season? Curry absolutely carried some of the games for Mavs with his ability to score from anywhere on the floor. He gave Mavs another veteran presence and has fit perfectly in RC system.
The ONLY player i was afraid that Mavs would trade was actually traded. Such a stupid move, unless Josh manages to transform himself into Shawn Marion, this was just a huge gift to Philly who is also a title contender.
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Archx wrote:arkuo wrote:jpengland wrote:Hate this move.
Curry was a perfect fit with this roster and had a fantastic contract. Richardson flatters to deceive, when you get into the numbers on him, he really is not impactful at all, I used to quite like him but when you dig into it he just doesn't impact the game.
I think overall it's a +.
Curry's floor spacing will be easily replaced by Terry
Who is Terry? Is he an all time great NBA 3pt shooter as well? Have you even watched Mavs bench unit last season? Curry absolutely carried some of the games for Mavs with his ability to score from anywhere on the floor. He gave Mavs another veteran presence and has fit perfectly in RC system.
The ONLY player i was afraid that Mavs would trade was actually traded. Such a stupid move, unless Josh manages to transform himself into Shawn Marion, this was just a huge gift to Philly who is also a title contender.
No but he's considered the 2nd best shooter in the draft so that should at least make up for some of it. Seth is on another level for sure but I don't think the production is irreplaceable. As much as I love Seth he was also a huge liability on defense and defensively not a good fit to line up with Luka.
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Archx wrote:arkuo wrote:jpengland wrote:Hate this move.
Curry was a perfect fit with this roster and had a fantastic contract. Richardson flatters to deceive, when you get into the numbers on him, he really is not impactful at all, I used to quite like him but when you dig into it he just doesn't impact the game.
I think overall it's a +.
Curry's floor spacing will be easily replaced by Terry
Who is Terry? Is he an all time great NBA 3pt shooter as well? Have you even watched Mavs bench unit last season? Curry absolutely carried some of the games for Mavs with his ability to score from anywhere on the floor. He gave Mavs another veteran presence and has fit perfectly in RC system.
The ONLY player i was afraid that Mavs would trade was actually traded. Such a stupid move, unless Josh manages to transform himself into Shawn Marion, this was just a huge gift to Philly who is also a title contender.
The Mavs are in a tough spot. They stick with a Curry-Doncic backcourt, they will get toasted in the playoffs by Kawhi or Lebron. You need more bodies that are 6'6 to 6'8 to throw at Lebron, Kawhi, PG in the playoffs. if you only have DFS and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist guarding those, then you're not getting far.
With the Curry trade, you get two more bodies and 12 more fouls to give between Richardson and Bey. Both 6'6 and 6'7 respectively.
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arkuo wrote:Archx wrote:arkuo wrote:
I think overall it's a +.
Curry's floor spacing will be easily replaced by Terry
Who is Terry? Is he an all time great NBA 3pt shooter as well? Have you even watched Mavs bench unit last season? Curry absolutely carried some of the games for Mavs with his ability to score from anywhere on the floor. He gave Mavs another veteran presence and has fit perfectly in RC system.
The ONLY player i was afraid that Mavs would trade was actually traded. Such a stupid move, unless Josh manages to transform himself into Shawn Marion, this was just a huge gift to Philly who is also a title contender.
The Mavs are in a tough spot. They stick with a Curry-Doncic backcourt, they will get toasted in the playoffs by Kawhi or Lebron. You need more bodies that are 6'6 to 6'8 to throw at Lebron, Kawhi, PG in the playoffs. if you only have DFS and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist guarding those, then you're not getting far.
With the Curry trade, you get two more bodies and 12 more fouls to give between Richardson and Bey. Both 6'6 and 6'7 respectively.
I don't mind trading for Jrich, don't get me wrong, i like him BUT for Curry? I wish they could have made it work with another player. Someone like Wright who is literally one of the most expendable guys on this team, just simply doesn't fit as we thought he would.
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Archx wrote:arkuo wrote:Archx wrote:
Who is Terry? Is he an all time great NBA 3pt shooter as well? Have you even watched Mavs bench unit last season? Curry absolutely carried some of the games for Mavs with his ability to score from anywhere on the floor. He gave Mavs another veteran presence and has fit perfectly in RC system.
The ONLY player i was afraid that Mavs would trade was actually traded. Such a stupid move, unless Josh manages to transform himself into Shawn Marion, this was just a huge gift to Philly who is also a title contender.
The Mavs are in a tough spot. They stick with a Curry-Doncic backcourt, they will get toasted in the playoffs by Kawhi or Lebron. You need more bodies that are 6'6 to 6'8 to throw at Lebron, Kawhi, PG in the playoffs. if you only have DFS and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist guarding those, then you're not getting far.
With the Curry trade, you get two more bodies and 12 more fouls to give between Richardson and Bey. Both 6'6 and 6'7 respectively.
I don't mind trading for Jrich, don't get me wrong, i like him BUT for Curry? I wish they could have made it work with another player. Someone like Wright who is literally one of the most expendable guys on this team, just simply doesn't fit as we thought he would.
You don't get a valuable asset like Jrich without giving up something of value. Wrights value is down right now, Seths is at an all time high. We bought low on Jrich and sold high on Seth, ideal scenario really as much as I like and will miss him.
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dirkules_41 wrote:Archx wrote:arkuo wrote:
The Mavs are in a tough spot. They stick with a Curry-Doncic backcourt, they will get toasted in the playoffs by Kawhi or Lebron. You need more bodies that are 6'6 to 6'8 to throw at Lebron, Kawhi, PG in the playoffs. if you only have DFS and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist guarding those, then you're not getting far.
With the Curry trade, you get two more bodies and 12 more fouls to give between Richardson and Bey. Both 6'6 and 6'7 respectively.
I don't mind trading for Jrich, don't get me wrong, i like him BUT for Curry? I wish they could have made it work with another player. Someone like Wright who is literally one of the most expendable guys on this team, just simply doesn't fit as we thought he would.
You don't get a valuable asset like Jrich without giving up something of value. Wrights value is down right now, Seths is at an all time high. We bought low on Jrich and sold high on Seth, ideal scenario really as much as I like and will miss him.
Yeah, JRich has more potential than Curry. He's 4 years younger, is a better defender and can still be a good spot up shooter.
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agentofatlas wrote:Good news is that apparently Richardson and Luka trained together before, so there might be some chemistry there on day 1.
Same agency(BDA)Luka is really new LeBron.They trained as far as summer of 2015 and stayed in contact since.
Love the player , % will go up with Luka.(fit in Fili was horrendous , no spacing).Fact that his good friend with Luka,has a same agent,fits the timeline gives me good feeling about 2021 agency.Where he can if there is no big fish sing long term here.
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Two things here. We didn't trade Curry for Richardson. We traded Curry for Richardson and Tyler Bey.
Second thing. Tyler Terry was almost certainly a first-round draft pick. His weight (and the shortened season) kept him from getting into the first round. Terry is a skilled playmaker, and even averaged over 4 rebounds a game at 6'2".
Second thing. Tyler Terry was almost certainly a first-round draft pick. His weight (and the shortened season) kept him from getting into the first round. Terry is a skilled playmaker, and even averaged over 4 rebounds a game at 6'2".
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We sold Seth at highest value ever.Playing alongside Luka,KP and all that space.
And we bought J-Rich when his value was probably low after playing in lineup with Simmons,Embiid,Horford(like anti Dallas)
(yea i use "we")
Seth will always be 6-2 and defensive liability in playoffs,this is was the right move.
Fact that we may well have his replacement in Terry already is just icing on the cake.
And we bought J-Rich when his value was probably low after playing in lineup with Simmons,Embiid,Horford(like anti Dallas)
(yea i use "we")
Seth will always be 6-2 and defensive liability in playoffs,this is was the right move.
Fact that we may well have his replacement in Terry already is just icing on the cake.
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Yea ended up being a great night for the Mavs. Hopefully they dont flush it down the toilet with a Gallo S&T. Stay this course. The only potnetial move that should be considered now is trading Powell if anyone wants him.
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Mavs may need to address frontcourt specifically in free agency. If WCS is opting out, KP is delayed returning, and Powell is rusty, looking for an athletic big man may be on the horizon.
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JJP wrote:Mavs may need to address frontcourt specifically in free agency. If WCS is opting out, KP is delayed returning, and Powell is rusty, looking for an athletic big man may be on the horizon.
He's not all that athletic, but WIlly Hermangomez was Luka's close friend in Real madrid as well as KP's in NY. Could be had for cheap and make our 2 stars a little happier.
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daoneandonly wrote:JJP wrote:Mavs may need to address frontcourt specifically in free agency. If WCS is opting out, KP is delayed returning, and Powell is rusty, looking for an athletic big man may be on the horizon.
He's not all that athletic, but WIlly Hermangomez was Luka's close friend in Real madrid as well as KP's in NY. Could be had for cheap and make our 2 stars a little happier.
This may end up being a salary thing. If you can split the MLE with two players - like say Hemangomez and Justin Holiday, that could be a winner.
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Don7 wrote:We sold Seth at highest value ever.Playing alongside Luka,KP and all that space.
That's the key. Hate to lose him, but they had limited assets to trade. They did sell high on Curry. That's much better than using 18 to sell low on Delon Wright to get out of his contract.
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