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Post#181 » by arkuo » Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:37 pm

Hardy is a potential THJ replacement IMO. He has the next 3 years to develop and figure it out. When THJ's deal expires and he's like 35 and asking for Jalen Brunson money, he's the backup plan. You never trust players not to want more cash. Dirk is a rare one.
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Post#182 » by SOUNDCHASER » Wed Jul 13, 2022 11:18 pm

I wonder how much of this crap show is on the coaching and not the players.

We saw a good game to start summer league and they degraded to this level.

This has to be on the coaches. Harding is still looking good though but he is a ball hog type PG that wont involve others enough so I am not seeing his fit at all.

Hardy needs time in the g league for sure and I think we need to get these guys trained better so they can stop looking like little girls playing catch.

Lawson seems to have followed suite and Jr has just played a disappearing game and hardly even played him last game.

I am so upset and they are looking so bad I would seriously be looking to take whatever some other team cuts like maybe the center Utah cuts from their team that would be a good pickup given they are stocked on center with 5.

They have Whiteside still in FA, Kessler, Udoka, Tacko, and Kofi so they have 5 to choose from and it appears to me 3 is all any NBA team will carry.

Given they obviously knew that they were dealing away Gobert they may have actually tried to find some other guys that would be decent if they had to play them. I still like Bingham's 3 point shooting potential if he can develop in Frisco because he can play PF some as well as C but he looks like he needs more development at this point.
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Post#183 » by dirkdiggler4177 » Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:47 pm

SOUNDCHASER wrote:I wonder how much of this crap show is on the coaching and not the players.

We saw a good game to start summer league and they degraded to this level.

This has to be on the coaches. Harding is still looking good though but he is a ball hog type PG that wont involve others enough so I am not seeing his fit at all.

Hardy needs time in the g league for sure and I think we need to get these guys trained better so they can stop looking like little girls playing catch.

Lawson seems to have followed suite and Jr has just played a disappearing game and hardly even played him last game.

I am so upset and they are looking so bad I would seriously be looking to take whatever some other team cuts like maybe the center Utah cuts from their team that would be a good pickup given they are stocked on center with 5.

They have Whiteside still in FA, Kessler, Udoka, Tacko, and Kofi so they have 5 to choose from and it appears to me 3 is all any NBA team will carry.

Given they obviously knew that they were dealing away Gobert they may have actually tried to find some other guys that would be decent if they had to play them. I still like Bingham's 3 point shooting potential if he can develop in Frisco because he can play PF some as well as C but he looks like he needs more development at this point.


I think you are too positive when it comes to this roster. Bingham is a undrafted college senior. He is averaging 16% shoot in the summer league. He will never ever make the NBA.

The summer league is basically a pick-up tourement. It is a way for NBA players to get ready for the NBA rules and style. The Mavericks roster does not have a point guard to run the show, making it incredible hard to run a good offense when everybody juts cares to show off.
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Post#184 » by 41Dirk41 » Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:29 pm

I had 0 faith in Bingham and low expectations in Hardy so if Lawson will become the new DFS i'm happy.
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Post#185 » by SOUNDCHASER » Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:37 pm

I am hoping we can play Dinwiddie all the minutes that Luka is resting so that he can cover backup PG well enough so we don't have issues in the second team with running plays and doing the best job possible while we wait for Luka to return.

Hopefully THJ is up for playing a lot of minutes at the 2 along with Bullock, because the issue of using Dinwiddie at the 1 is going to limit his time at the 2. DFS is going to be needed at the 3 primarily and bullock needs to play a lot of minutes as well at the 3 so he can hopefully do well at the 2 as well. DFS should play the 3 since Woods is going to play a lot of time at PF and we still have Kleeber and Bertans to hit 3's as a stretch 4.

Small ball with DFS at the 4 is okay for some of the game but it is probably more useful to play McGee or last years 5's at the 5 with Woods at the 4 since he is a 3 point threat and able to play as a small ball 4/5 being he is so quick for a center and duh the reason may be he is only 6'10" or even 6'9". I think McGee is mobile enough to play as a modern center and that may be why he was used in GSW and got a ring with them.

Using Woods at the 5 with DFS at the 4 is okay as well but only when the other team is not protecting the rim with a lot of size. Obviously a 5 out offensive scheme is going to bomb the other team with a lot of 3 balls and so we may force them into matching up with that kind of approach and if it works it works but the thing is your going to be playing a lot of minutes with DFS Bullock Woods Dinwiddie and Luka and that creates depth issues behind them.

McGee may not play but 15 to 20 minutes at his age. If he can be effective in longer minutes I will be happy but he has to worry about father time and we have him on a 3 year contract. THJ can play the 3 and the 2.

Bottom of the bench is Green Pinson Hardy and Ntilikina and if Lawson can contribute then he is a find that will help us with our SF situation of not having DFS at SF exclusively. That is a big if. Hardy looks to be a year away from developing into a rotation piece and I am wondering if he is better off playing on a 2 way. If we need a back up for McGee and we do not like Bingham at the 5 then stash Bing in Frisco for a year and go find someone else. A third center other than Powell who may get traded since his expiring contract will have value to other teams looking to shrink their tax bills.

Bingham could take a while to develop at this level but his 3 pointer developing should happen and on defense his standard rebounding success rate of 1 rebound per every 3 minutes plus a better than average shot blocking ability makes him a potential find in a year or so of development in Frisco after his nerves calm and he gains more confidence on offense oh and his fouling too much.

Those couple of issues seem to be the main thing he needs to figure out and that is far easier to accomplish in Frisco for a year.

Then you can also use him at PF like Woods because he can defend the perimeter better than most centers with his motor being more akin to the modern center game. All he really needs to develop is a better level of confidence to shoot in the right places.

Hardy has a lot of learning to do as well because he needs to see who he can attack and who will swat his shot. He is not super athletic but he is smart so he will figure out a way to adapt but unfortunately that is going to take a season of playing time to get him to that level we want him at. If he can do a spot of time in Frisco developing with Bingham and Lawson then they can all learn together and surprise us as they do develop.

I do believe that kind of insurance center is needed so then we need to see who falls through the cracks from Utah and other teams who are stocked with extra centers that they may not keep.

I would guess that UTA is going to keep Kessler and Azabuike and if they keep three in total they will then keep one of Kofi, Tacko and or resign Whiteside at the vet min. So hopefully we can take advantage of this situation to grab one more 5. Tacko may win that battle and leave us with a choice of Whiteside and Kofi.
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Re: SUMMER LEAGUE THREAD 

Post#186 » by SOUNDCHASER » Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:11 pm

https://www.nba.com/game/dal-vs-mil-1522200050

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Post#187 » by dirkules_41 » Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:32 pm

There's really nobody on this summerleague roster as of right now that looks like they could earn an NBA roster spot.
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Post#188 » by HMFFL » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:56 am

Tied 42-42 at the half

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Post#189 » by HMFFL » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:57 am

Hardy is going to be frustrating to watch.

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Post#190 » by SOUNDCHASER » Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:43 am

hopefully the mavs are scouting other teams so that we can snag what they cut
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Post#191 » by HMFFL » Sat Jul 16, 2022 12:24 am

Mfiondu Kabengele has been my guy for three seasons. He was productive for Boston in their summer league games but they possibly don't have a spot for him.

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Post#192 » by SOUNDCHASER » Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:59 pm

I was just looking at stats and guess who is the 7th best scoring player in summer league? Justin Jackson at 20PPG playing for the celtics.
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Post#193 » by SOUNDCHASER » Sun Jul 17, 2022 1:14 am

https://www.nba.com/game/lal-vs-dal-1522200068

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Post#194 » by SOUNDCHASER » Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:34 am

95 to 84 and a loss so that is probably it for the summer league.
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Post#195 » by Apz » Sun Jul 17, 2022 11:36 am

Yeah, too little teamplay. And they started the mavs way and were down by miles already from start. Within 5 late in 4th but not enough
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Post#196 » by 41Dirk41 » Sun Jul 17, 2022 11:47 am

Like i said i'll take Lawson.
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Post#197 » by Darren » Sun Jul 17, 2022 11:54 am

At least, Hardy has a solid mid-range.
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Post#198 » by KGdaBom » Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:46 am

41Dirk41 wrote:Like i said i'll take Lawson.

I'm glad you like him. He signed with Minnesota.
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Post#199 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:59 am

KGdaBom wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:Like i said i'll take Lawson.

I'm glad you like him. He signed with Minnesota.


Good pick.

3&D with athletism, i don't know if he will crack your rotation but he has potential.
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Post#200 » by SOUNDCHASER » Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:17 am

a bigger wing like lawson is something the tpups needed since they lack guys with size at the 1 through 3.

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