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Re: Javale McGee 

Post#21 » by mollifier » Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:00 pm

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Chuck Texas wrote:So Stein is reporting we are going to explore Dalembert again. But still saying that if JaVale looks healthy he's at the top of the list. Thanks a lot DeAndre.

The problem is we are down to McGee, Dalembert and Hollins.
Pick your poison.

I think we need McGee AND Dalembert. Dalembert and Pachulia are old and McGee is injury-prone.
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Re: Javale McGee 

Post#22 » by 2011Champs » Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:08 pm

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Teffer10 wrote:
Chuck Texas wrote:So Stein is reporting we are going to explore Dalembert again. But still saying that if JaVale looks healthy he's at the top of the list. Thanks a lot DeAndre.

The problem is we are down to McGee, Dalembert and Hollins.
Pick your poison.

I think we need McGee AND Dalembert. Dalembert and Pachulia are old and McGee is injury-prone.
Definitely need 3 centers for fouls and injuries unless we play lots of small ball. I guess Charlie v and Powell could play small ball center for ten to twelve minutes if necessary but I would be much more comfortable with a three man center rotation. Also Jermaine oneal shouldn't be forgotten. He would be good for a 3rd string center.
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Re: Javale McGee 

Post#23 » by Teffer10 » Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:46 pm

2011Champs wrote:
mollifier wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:The problem is we are down to McGee, Dalembert and Hollins.
Pick your poison.

I think we need McGee AND Dalembert. Dalembert and Pachulia are old and McGee is injury-prone.
Definitely need 3 centers for fouls and injuries unless we play lots of small ball. I guess Charlie v and Powell could play small ball center for ten to twelve minutes if necessary but I would be much more comfortable with a three man center rotation. Also Jermaine oneal shouldn't be forgotten. He would be good for a 3rd string center.

I'd be perfectly happy with Sarge as our 3rd stringer but would rather sign Withey because he is younger and still has an upside.
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Re: Javale McGee 

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Re: Javale McGee 

Post#25 » by 12footrim » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:21 pm

Chuck Texas wrote:And McGee just isn't good at basketball.


I could probably name 200 players that played in the league last year he's better than.

I know guys get excited because of his freak athleticism, but so what? He has no basketball IQ, no work ethic, and no will to improve. He's already getting paid by the Sixers so there would be no need for the MAvs to overpay him. I don't want him for a min contract, but he certainly shouldn't get more.


Guys that post 20+ Player Efficiency Ratings in their most recent healthy year aren't trash, especially when their real value is shotblocking and altering which isn't really measured in that as much and he has been ELITE at. On a 3 or 4 million dollars much less the minimum he is a GREAT signing. His Career per 36 minutes is 15, 10 and 3 on 54% shooting and he's 27 years old dead center of his prime. He was productive when teams actually played him last year even in his limited minutes which indicates to me he's healthy just in the coaches dog houses. You put him back in a role he's not looking over his shoulder I think he's better than anyone else you'll sign.
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Re: Javale McGee 

Post#26 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:27 pm

well Psycho T and Elton Brand have now emerged as names. I guess I would take JaVale above them, but ugh.

Also, I dare you to try and name 200 guys who had a contract other than a 10 day that JaVale is better at basketball than. Probably even with 10 Days you can't come close, but knock yourself out.
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Re: Javale McGee 

Post#27 » by bobsquad » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:45 pm

Even with McGee, we still need a rebounder. Dalembert rebounded at a similar rate as Chandler when he played in Dallas.
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Post#28 » by aussiewill » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:45 pm

Chuck Texas wrote:well Psycho T and Elton Brand have now emerged as names. I guess I would take JaVale above them, but ugh.

Also, I dare you to try and name 200 guys who had a contract other than a 10 day that JaVale is better at basketball than. Probably even with 10 Days you can't come close, but knock yourself out.


I just glossed over the recent posts and I think you might be looking at it the wrong way. We have had success with turning these type of head case players around in Dallas. Javale isn't the egotist who demands the ball, he is just a bit dumb for lack of a better word. We struggled with the guys who wanted a bigger role than they could get here and I don't see Javale as that type of player.

Psycho T is a 5, I don't care what anyone says, he isn't... Brand is probably ok for defensive purposes, but for the last several years we have had an athletic 5 who can finish at the rim, neither Brand or Zaza are... The market now for big men is thinning, not that Aldrich is much of a talent, but he was just picked up. Check out who's left and bare in mind Jordan Hill is with the Pacers which hasn't been updated-

http://www.nba.com/freeagents/2015/?ls=iref:nbahpts

Javale makes the most sense right now, as much as it doesn't if you get me...
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Re: Javale McGee 

Post#29 » by titantron91 » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:45 pm

I'd go for McGee any day. Dalembert has low upside. Hollins, I dunno.

With great coaching and teammates, I think JaVale will do fine. He won't be a star but he'll do just fine.

I'd go with McGee, Pachulia, and Dalembert.

I also hope Powell develop shot selection and additional muscle mass and strength. We'd have to go for Darrell Arthur if he does not develop.

So far, my ideal projected lineup is

PG: Deron Williams, Devin Harris, JJ Barea
SG: Wesley Matthews, Justin Anderson, Alexey Shved
SF: Chandler Parsons, Richard Jefferson, Jeremy Evans
PF: Dirk Nowitzki, Darrell Arthur, Charlie Villanueva
C: JaVale McGee, Zaza Pachulia, Samuel Dalembert
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Post#30 » by fuller4379 » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:51 pm

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Re: Javale McGee 

Post#31 » by titantron91 » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:05 pm

Anyone thinks that we should get Anthony Bennett? He's a nice finisher if given spacing. Shorter than Wright but a damn stronger and bulkier player. Just as athletic maybe but I dunno about his D. Oh, he can shoot too. :)
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Re: Javale McGee 

Post#32 » by cmavswin » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:08 am

No matter who the Mavs sign they are going to have warts. The question is who warts can this team afford and still be competitive? I think McGee and Dalembert fit the bill with what they are able to bring. However we all have to face facts that no matter who they sign that this team on some nights are going to have issues against the better centers in this league.
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Re: Javale McGee 

Post#33 » by bobsquad » Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:52 am

Center Power Rankings:
1. McGee: I AM STILL A BELIEVER
2. Dalembert: a year ago he was the poor man's Chandler... I'm less sure of that now
3. Hansbrough: if we didn't have a gaping hole at center he'd be #1 on this list, played very well last season in limited minutes
4. Brand: unspectacular run in Dallas + Atlanta's lack of interest in him suggest meaningful contributor he will not be
5. Seraphin: talented but a fringe NBA contributor
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Re: Javale McGee 

Post#34 » by Teffer10 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:20 am

Please no Brand, and TH doesn't fit what we need.
Dalembert and McGee would give us a nice "Center by Committee" if you will.
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Re: Javale McGee 

Post#35 » by Pointguard01 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:36 am

WHO IS PSYCHO T? HUH!?
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Re: Javale McGee 

Post#36 » by SLATER » Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:03 am

Anyone thinks that we should get Anthony Bennett?


I like this as a backup 4. I can put aside all his number 1 pick baggage and I think Minnesota would be ready to part with him based on all the other young talent they have.
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Re: Javale McGee 

Post#37 » by aussiewill » Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:22 am

Pointguard01 wrote:WHO IS PSYCHO T? HUH!?


Tyler Hansbrough
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Re: Javale McGee 

Post#38 » by jpengland » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:16 am

McGee and Hansbrough would round things out pretty well. I'd then be trying to move Powell and Felton for a bench wing scorer (someone that can play the 3 or small ball 4 would be perfect).

Williams/Harris
Matthews/Barea/Anderson
Parsons/Trade for scorer/Jefferson
Dirk/Hansbrough/Charlie V/Tyler
McGee/Pachulia/Sarge
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Post#39 » by titantron91 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:12 pm

Deron Williams/Devin Harris/JJ Barea
Wesley Matthews/Justin Anderson/Jeff Taylor
Chandler Parsons/Dorrell Wright/Richard Jefferson
Dirk Nowitzki/Darrell Arthur/Tyler Hansbrough
JaVale McGee/Zaza Pachulia/Samuel Dalembert

I'd pick Arthur over Tyler because Arthur can shoot better. But I love Hansbrough's dirty tactics. I'd love Arthur and Hansbrough backing Dirk up. Villanueva can go, if you ask me.

I can imagine Dallas turning into a hardnosed run-and-gun offensive team that relies on lots of shooters and strong finishers. Creating own shots will be down but it will that deficiency will be compensated with excellent ball movement, spacing, and unselfish plays.

On defense, we can turn into the most hardnosed, intense, and dirtiest team on the floor. I LOVE IT.
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Re: Javale McGee 

Post#40 » by 12footrim » Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:07 pm

Chuck Texas wrote:well Psycho T and Elton Brand have now emerged as names. I guess I would take JaVale above them, but ugh.


You guess?

Also, I dare you to try and name 200 guys who had a contract other than a 10 day that JaVale is better at basketball than. Probably even with 10 Days you can't come close, but knock yourself out.


We'll even as bad as people think he was last year he had the 197th best Player Efficiency Rating in the NBA out of 483 players that laced them up last year, and it wasn't even close to his career average which would suggest it's not a fluke and that he could probably even do better.

He easily has more upside than most any other Elton Brand Phyco T crap you might sign as a 27 year old which if you are going to be a treadmill team why not go with the upside and hope you hit on something big like Hassan Whiteside was for Miami. That's not even a streach, JaVale was top 25 his last healthy year in PER and PER is more of an offensive stat on top of it when his real value is mostly shotblocking and rim protection which he has been elite at and finishing around the rim which is basically what you have lived on and have none of now.

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