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Re: Why TF did we draft brunson? 

Post#21 » by Suka Bongcic » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:01 am

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Pinkyring wrote:We've also got barea and will be bringing back devin, u think Brunson will get minutes? No rick is in love with vets


No guarantee that Devin is brought back as a player. There’s a good chance he’s brought back as a coach. Even if he is as a player it’s likely in a very short contract. Brunson is here for the future as much as the present. JJ is in his last year and could even be traded this off season because of his expiring contract.

U really think they'd ever trade jj? Heck no


You continue to talk about 2018......this team isn’t going all in for 2018. Barea will be gone after next year if not before. You’re talking about a 2nd rd pick like it’s a lottery pick. We drafted a guy that had a first rd grade by many analysts. He was BPA. The guys we currently have playing backup pg are 50 years old. Wake up my man. Wake up and stop your hating.
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Re: Why TF did we draft brunson? 

Post#22 » by Pinkyring » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:14 am

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Wah wah wah. Brunson is flashy enough for you. Teams don’t just have 2 primary ball handlers. In today’s league, penetration and smart passing is premium. Doncic and Junior cant be the only primary ballhandlers. There will be times where they’re both on the bench and we will need a floor leader. To think we only need Doncic and junior to handle is just naive and shortsighted. You act as if there are sure fire starters sitting there in the 2nd round. Some may be, some fail. Brunson was the BPA and has a good chance to be a solid contributor

We've also got barea and will be bringing back devin, u think Brunson will get minutes? No rick is in love with vets


You think we’re competeing for a title in 2018? They’re building for the future.....not 2018. You’re vision is extremely shortsighted. Barea and Harris will be gone this year or next while Brunson will be the backup pg.

I get that although I think at least one if not both will be retained but the point is we have other holes to fill backup pg isnt an immediate need when we have 1 sg on his last leg, no pf no center, try to hit on a guy to fill those spots instead of drafting a backup pg. I was for a backup pg in this draft just not with that pick, that was too high to use on a pick behind a guy who should be a big part of this franchise. Dsj should be getting 35 minutes a night, we shouldn't use a high second on a 13mpg backup
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Re: Why TF did we draft brunson? 

Post#23 » by k-lynch201 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:49 am

Who did you want instead of Brunson at 33?

He is a damn good pick, played great for the wildcats, all about this youth movement.

Once we took Doncic it was clear we were going to find our big man in FA or trade, which is just fine with me.
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Re: Why TF did we draft brunson? 

Post#24 » by Suka Bongcic » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:22 am

Pinkyring wrote:
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Pinkyring wrote:We've also got barea and will be bringing back devin, u think Brunson will get minutes? No rick is in love with vets


You think we’re competeing for a title in 2018? They’re building for the future.....not 2018. You’re vision is extremely shortsighted. Barea and Harris will be gone this year or next while Brunson will be the backup pg.

I get that although I think at least one if not both will be retained but the point is we have other holes to fill backup pg isnt an immediate need when we have 1 sg on his last leg, no pf no center, try to hit on a guy to fill those spots instead of drafting a backup pg. I was for a backup pg in this draft just not with that pick, that was too high to use on a pick behind a guy who should be a big part of this franchise. Dsj should be getting 35 minutes a night, we shouldn't use a high second on a 13mpg backup

If DSj is playing 35 mins a night we’re going to need Brunson more than you think.
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Re: Why TF did we draft brunson? 

Post#25 » by arkuo » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:29 am

Why TF not? Barea is on his last contract and if Yogi gets a bigger offer than the minimum he's out too. It's an 82 game season. Brunson allows us to pace Dennis. I think its a good pick up.
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Re: Why TF did we draft brunson? 

Post#26 » by arkuo » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:33 am

Who did you expect at #33? A starting center? LOL
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Re: Why TF did we draft brunson? 

Post#27 » by Lord Cuban » Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:51 pm

This can't be serious...
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Re: Why TF did we draft brunson? 

Post#28 » by Pinkyring » Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:52 pm

arkuo wrote:Who did you expect at #33? A starting center? LOL

Answer me this, what is the only position anyone should feel comfortable with? Pg with a starter locked in, maybe now sf with doncic, everything else is a mess, so why use a high pick for a guy without starting potential, it makes zero sense. U dont fill out bench position that doesnt need immediate filling when you holes EVERYWHERE else. That's a spot u dont use quality resources on and a high 2 is that. This is one of the reasons we've been so bad, too many pg's no defense or rebounding
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Re: Why TF did we draft brunson? 

Post#29 » by Pinkyring » Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:54 pm

arkuo wrote:Who did you expect at #33? A starting center? LOL

No of the good teams do this and thats why theyre good, u dont waste premium assets on guys to play behind your potential best player
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Re: Why TF did we draft brunson? 

Post#30 » by arkuo » Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:06 pm

Pinkyring wrote:
arkuo wrote:Who did you expect at #33? A starting center? LOL

Answer me this, what is the only position anyone should feel comfortable with? Pg with a starter locked in, maybe now sf with doncic, everything else is a mess, so why use a high pick for a guy without starting potential, it makes zero sense. U dont fill out bench position that doesnt need immediate filling when you holes EVERYWHERE else. That's a spot u dont use quality resources on and a high 2 is that. This is one of the reasons we've been so bad, too many pg's no defense or rebounding



My best guess is because Brunson was BPA. If they wanted to take a player of need that would have been Mitchel Robinson 3 picks down. But Robinsons looks like AJ Hammonds right now. Salah Mejiri will come in before him to be honest. he's that raw. I think management has already committed to taking a big man via free agency and not the draft. otherwise they would have just stood pat at #5 and take Bamba.
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Re: Why TF did we draft brunson? 

Post#31 » by Pinkyring » Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:16 pm

arkuo wrote:
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arkuo wrote:Who did you expect at #33? A starting center? LOL

Answer me this, what is the only position anyone should feel comfortable with? Pg with a starter locked in, maybe now sf with doncic, everything else is a mess, so why use a high pick for a guy without starting potential, it makes zero sense. U dont fill out bench position that doesnt need immediate filling when you holes EVERYWHERE else. That's a spot u dont use quality resources on and a high 2 is that. This is one of the reasons we've been so bad, too many pg's no defense or rebounding



My best guess is because Brunson was BPA. If they wanted to take a player of need that would have been Mitchel Robinson 3 picks down. But Robinsons looks like AJ Hammonds right now. Salah Mejiri will come in before him to be honest. he's that raw. I think management has already committed to taking a big man via free agency and not the draft. otherwise they would have just stood pat at #5 and take Bamba.

Khyrie thomas was bpa and filled a major hole and need, size at the 1/2 excellent defender and excellent three point shooter, big isnt our only need, we are still running wes out there at 2 for christ sakes
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Re: Why TF did we draft brunson? 

Post#32 » by 2011Champs » Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:34 pm

Nothing wrong with Wes if he remains a Maverick however all indications lead to his expiring being traded. Carlisle is going to run with two small guards on the floor whether we like it or not so Brunson is a need.
Mavs are addressing the front court by trade or free agency. What were we going to do instead of Brunson?
Draft the next AJ Hammons?
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Re: Why TF did we draft brunson? 

Post#33 » by 2011Champs » Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:36 pm

Pinkyring wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Pinkyring wrote:Answer me this, what is the only position anyone should feel comfortable with? Pg with a starter locked in, maybe now sf with doncic, everything else is a mess, so why use a high pick for a guy without starting potential, it makes zero sense. U dont fill out bench position that doesnt need immediate filling when you holes EVERYWHERE else. That's a spot u dont use quality resources on and a high 2 is that. This is one of the reasons we've been so bad, too many pg's no defense or rebounding



My best guess is because Brunson was BPA. If they wanted to take a player of need that would have been Mitchel Robinson 3 picks down. But Robinsons looks like AJ Hammonds right now. Salah Mejiri will come in before him to be honest. he's that raw. I think management has already committed to taking a big man via free agency and not the draft. otherwise they would have just stood pat at #5 and take Bamba.

Khyrie thomas was bpa and filled a major hole and need, size at the 1/2 excellent defender and excellent three point shooter, big isnt our only need, we are still running wes out there at 2 for christ sakes

Obviously Khyrie wasn’t as high on Donnie and the scout’s list as Brunson. I don’t trust Cubans analysis but I do trust Donnie’s.
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Re: Why TF did we draft brunson? 

Post#34 » by Pinkyring » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:06 pm

2011Champs wrote:
Pinkyring wrote:
arkuo wrote:

My best guess is because Brunson was BPA. If they wanted to take a player of need that would have been Mitchel Robinson 3 picks down. But Robinsons looks like AJ Hammonds right now. Salah Mejiri will come in before him to be honest. he's that raw. I think management has already committed to taking a big man via free agency and not the draft. otherwise they would have just stood pat at #5 and take Bamba.

Khyrie thomas was bpa and filled a major hole and need, size at the 1/2 excellent defender and excellent three point shooter, big isnt our only need, we are still running wes out there at 2 for christ sakes

Obviously Khyrie wasn’t as high on Donnie and the scout’s list as Brunson. I don’t trust Cubans analysis but I do trust Donnie’s.

Why do u trust donnie, what was his last good draft pick? And lets not count dsj who fell is his lap and is still under review
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Re: Why TF did we draft brunson? 

Post#35 » by 2011Champs » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:09 pm

Pinkyring wrote:
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Pinkyring wrote:Khyrie thomas was bpa and filled a major hole and need, size at the 1/2 excellent defender and excellent three point shooter, big isnt our only need, we are still running wes out there at 2 for christ sakes

Obviously Khyrie wasn’t as high on Donnie and the scout’s list as Brunson. I don’t trust Cubans analysis but I do trust Donnie’s.

Why do u trust donnie, what was his last good draft pick? And lets not count dsj who fell is his lap and is still under review
HIS last good draft pick was Giannis.
Mark cuban overruled him because he wanted to save a few bucks to make an offer to Dwight Howard.
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Re: Why TF did we draft brunson? 

Post#36 » by JamesConway » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:25 pm

Can't follow the outrage about posters who question the pick. Prior to the draft pretty much everybody thought (Skin & Karalla on their pod, the locked on-guys) we'd target one of the wings with #33. Our backcourt is extremely crowded already and we've spent a ton of time developing guys like Ferrell and Curry. I get the BPA-angle and am at peace with the pick now, but from a more teambuilding-centric POV this was obviously a selection that's gonna polarize.

I just hope that it all makes sense at the end of the offseason. I REALLY don't want this to end in a situation where we've blown a not-great-but-pretty-solid pick on a fourth string PG bc they've decided to also bring back multiple of ther other guards who are all more experienced and are therefore better win-now options for Carlisle. We all know how he usually handles situations like this.
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Re: Why TF did we draft brunson? 

Post#37 » by Pinkyring » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:41 pm

2011Champs wrote:
Pinkyring wrote:
2011Champs wrote:Obviously Khyrie wasn’t as high on Donnie and the scout’s list as Brunson. I don’t trust Cubans analysis but I do trust Donnie’s.

Why do u trust donnie, what was his last good draft pick? And lets not count dsj who fell is his lap and is still under review
HIS last good draft pick was Giannis.
Mark cuban overruled him because he wanted to save a few bucks to make an offer to Dwight Howard.

He didn't pick giannis, despite the stories that he wanted him i fail to believe that if he "stomped on a desk" saying giannis was going to be a top 10 player he wouldn't have got the go ahead to draft him, we could have found other ways to shave that million and frankly if a million was going to make or break dwight from signing here u wouldn't want him anyway
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Re: Why TF did we draft brunson? 

Post#38 » by Pinkyring » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:43 pm

JamesConway wrote:Can't follow the outrage about posters who question the pick. Prior to the draft pretty much everybody thought (Skin & Karalla on their pod, the locked on-guys) we'd target one of the wings with #33. Our backcourt is extremely crowded already and we've spent a ton of time developing guys like Ferrell and Curry. I get the BPA-angle and am at peace with the pick now, but from a more teambuilding-centric POV this was obviously a selection that's gonna polarize.

I just hope that it all makes sense at the end of the offseason. I REALLY don't want this to end in a situation where we've blown a not-great-but-pretty-solid pick on a fourth string PG bc they've decided to also bring back multiple of ther other guards who are all more experienced and are therefore better win-now options for Carlisle. We all know how he usually handles situations like this.

This is my main pov, i wanted a pg just not with that pick, thats essentially a late first, we used a first on the point of the future last year, no need to double up, we just have too many needs to be making luxury picks
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Re: Why TF did we draft brunson? 

Post#39 » by jpengland » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:58 pm

BlueSan wrote:I disagree

Dončič is not a primary ball handler, at least not at this point and probably never will be, he can be a playmaking player but he is not going to be the one primary bringing the ball over the court and what not. Also Brunson - DSJ - Doncic would actually work well on the court together imo, not for long stretches but on occasions


A second rounder will very, very early result in a starter.

Getting a high character, high floor guy is a great move. And Brunson fits that profile.

I doubt Yogi comes back, and JJ is getting old. Rick likes to play those two (or three!) PG line ups.

Brunson projects will as a backup, steady PG who can run an offense,make plays and keep things ticking well whilst other guys rest. That's a great pick up at that end of the draft, there aren't that many good back up PG about, a lot of gunners but not steady play running types.
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Re: Why TF did we draft brunson? 

Post#40 » by fuller4379 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:12 pm

I like the pick. My most second round picks start their career in the G League. I feel like Brunson can be the third PG as a rookie.

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