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Post#21 » by Dirk » Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:51 pm

ejs78 wrote:Watching the end of the Suns game..... right now they're better.

Playing the good teams close and taking care of the ones they should.

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They have played really great. Must be one the craziest transformations in a long time, from bottom of the league... to then becoming this solid.I look at a guy like Frank Kaminsky of all people... and he is doing so well and being paid nothing.

We're in shambles ejs. I even noticed that the Kings of all teams have been winning some games now despite the injuries.

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When will you feel you switch from 'playoffs' to 'ping pong balls'? When will that breaking point be?

I think this team would have to be really really bad for me to switch to a mode of 'wanting to lose'. I think even if out of the playoffs, we'll be okay with trying to win games. But we'll see. Things change drastically from week to week and some particularly horrifying games.

Keep an eye out for some rough riders that can be added to this team though. I have been eyeing Aminu, man barely plays. Numbers look ugly and maybe overpaid, but feels like he'd be a type of guy that would help, assuming he'd be able to recapture the form he had in dallas before.
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Post#22 » by ejs78 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:53 pm

Thing with the Suns they have 4 legit starters and 5 if you wanna count Saric.

Their bench is a little weak but that can be fixed.

I won't start the tank mode until after about 40 to 45 games and they are likely hanging on to 8th. A trade could change this all tho.
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ejs78 wrote:Watching the end of the Suns game..... right now they're better.

Playing the good teams close and taking care of the ones they should.

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They have played really great. Must be one the craziest transformations in a long time, from bottom of the league... to then becoming this solid.I look at a guy like Frank Kaminsky of all people... and he is doing so well and being paid nothing.

We're in shambles ejs. I even noticed that the Kings of all teams have been winning some games now despite the injuries.

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ejs78 wrote:When should I break out the Tankathon standings?



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When will you feel you switch from 'playoffs' to 'ping pong balls'? When will that breaking point be?

I think this team would have to be really really bad for me to switch to a mode of 'wanting to lose'. I think even if out of the playoffs, we'll be okay with trying to win games. But we'll see. Things change drastically from week to week and some particularly horrifying games.

Keep an eye out for some rough riders that can be added to this team though. I have been eyeing Aminu, man barely plays. Numbers look ugly and maybe overpaid, but feels like he'd be a type of guy that would help, assuming he'd be able to recapture the form he had in dallas before.


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Post#23 » by DJ_3_Ball » Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:06 pm

Man, don't look now, but the Kings just went 1-1 in a back-to-back vs the team with the best record in both conferences, and the game they did lose was tied with 5 seconds to go. It required LeBron to sink 2 free throws & AD to block Harrison Barnes' game tying layup attempt at the buzzer. Today they knock off the Celtics. And they did all of this missing their best player, DeAaron Fox.

That's something the Mavs aren't capable of doing right now. Beating a quality opponent without their best player.
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Post#24 » by Dirk » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:42 pm

DJ_3_Ball wrote:Man, don't look now, but the Kings just went 1-1 in a back-to-back vs the team with the best record in both conferences, and the game they did lose was tied with 5 seconds to go. It required LeBron to sink 2 free throws & AD to block Harrison Barnes' game tying layup attempt at the buzzer. Today they knock off the Celtics. And they did all of this missing their best player, DeAaron Fox.

That's something the Mavs aren't capable of doing right now. Beating a quality opponent without their best player.

Maybe Fox isn't their best player. And of course, Fox isn't in the same stratosphere as the Mavs' best player. And we have not seen the Mavs without their best player. And interestingly the Mavs without the best player on the floor have better numbers (there was a guy who built up a case on this in a thread recently). I was just joking above --- one interesting tidbit is that some of the role guys they paid well are not playing that much. Holmes is the one that keeps getting away from the Mavs. He has been an advanced stats hero everywhere he's been... and someone that likely would fit the current bill of a bigger bodied c to have next to kp.

Let's bring in Kings' insider to explain to us how they are having this nice run of games despite their two young studs being out.
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Post#25 » by codydaze » Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:22 pm

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DJ_3_Ball wrote:Man, don't look now, but the Kings just went 1-1 in a back-to-back vs the team with the best record in both conferences, and the game they did lose was tied with 5 seconds to go. It required LeBron to sink 2 free throws & AD to block Harrison Barnes' game tying layup attempt at the buzzer. Today they knock off the Celtics. And they did all of this missing their best player, DeAaron Fox.

That's something the Mavs aren't capable of doing right now. Beating a quality opponent without their best player.

Maybe Fox isn't their best player. And of course, Fox isn't in the same stratosphere as the Mavs' best player. And we have not seen the Mavs without their best player. And interestingly the Mavs without the best player on the floor have better numbers (there was a guy who built up a case on this in a thread recently). I was just joking above --- one interesting tidbit is that some of the role guys they paid well are not playing that much. Holmes is the one that keeps getting away from the Mavs. He has been an advanced stats hero everywhere he's been... and someone that likely would fit the current bill of a bigger bodied c to have next to kp.

Let's bring in Kings' insider to explain to us how they are having this nice run of games despite their two young studs being out.
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I think with this Kings team we can just throw out the month of October, chalk it up to the India trip or however you want to do it but that wasn't the Kings team we expected. 5-2 in the month of November is the team we expected and that started while Fox was still healthy.

In that 0-5 start we looked horrible, there was no offensive system being run and our defense was giving up anything the other team wanted on offense. We were dead last in the league at 174 passes per game (40 behind the 29th ranked team!) during October, had the 3rd worst ORTG and 5th worst DRTG. Since then, we have actually been running an offense, guys are moving without the ball and while we still occasionally fall into ISO mode, the ball is moving around much better. In November we've improved those numbers to 284 passer per game, 3rd best ORTG and 12th best DRTG, good for 6th best NETRTG in the league. It will take a little while for the season numbers to average out but we've been playing much more disciplined basketball since that ugly start.

Fox should be able to fill back in seamlessly and help keep this team improving, though we do need to see some more effort on the defensive end from him. Our defensive %s are worse across the board when Fox has been on the floor, but I'll chalk that up to the overall mess of a start to the year we had. Even though we're 2-1 without him, the lack of ballhandling and playmaking will be tough to overcome against good teams when he isn't playing. Bogdan has been playing incredible in this stretch but outside of him, we don't have any other playmakers. Buddy is a great scorer but if he's dribbling the ball more than 5-6 times on a possession, good things don't always happen. Cory Joseph has been holding the fort down with some really solid defense and Yogi has been doing Yogi things filling in that backup PG role, a super spark of energy and probably one of my favorite Kings.

Bagley I'm a little more worried about. Holmes has been playing great and Bjelica may quietly be our best player, when Bagley comes back do both move back to the bench with Dedmon re-entering the starting lineup? Does Bagley start at 5 with Bjelica at 4 to keep the floor spread? It will be interesting to see what Walton decides to do with the rotations when Bagley gets back but I just hope the ball doesn't stick in his hands too often on offense. I'm less worried about him defensively, our team principles seem to be getting a lot stronger and I think he'll do fine on that end.
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Post#26 » by DJ_3_Ball » Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:14 am

Woooooooooow! Portland just lost to New Orleans! They lost by 11, when the Pelicans weren't even on fire or anything 44.1% FG, 36.1% 3PM.

We're 15 games in now. This is more than "off to a bad start". I really think the Blazers have serious problems. I'm just looking at this now. They lost to the Warriors with no Steph, Draymond, or DeAngelo. Wow.

POR hasn't really beat anybody. They beat SAC when the Kings' mod told us they were just out of sync in early Nov. They beat us, which now is looking a lot worse than it did at the time (but they beat us by 2 on a controversial ending to the game). They beat OKC, they beat ATL, and they beat the Spurs, which I don't think the Spurs are much more than average & maybe a bit below average.

POR better get it together because they have @ MIL, @ LAC, and vs LAL in their next 8 games. They get a home & home w/ the Bulls, @ CLE, vs OKC and vs SAC in the other 5. They need 4 of those 5 games because they way they're playing, they'll probably lose the 3 to those behemoths. If they were go 2-6 on that stretch, holy cow. You're talking about the front office not willing to invest in this year's team terroritory. You're talking about pushing on 10 games below .500 and next to zero chance of making the playoffs with no help from the Front Office.

We need to really root for POR to fall on their face these next 8 games. Knocks off one more of our competitors for those 6-8 playoff seeds.
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Post#27 » by Heezzi » Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:31 pm

DJ_3_Ball wrote:Woooooooooow! Portland just lost to New Orleans! They lost by 11, when the Pelicans weren't even on fire or anything 44.1% FG, 36.1% 3PM.

We're 15 games in now. This is more than "off to a bad start". I really think the Blazers have serious problems. I'm just looking at this now. They lost to the Warriors with no Steph, Draymond, or DeAngelo. Wow.

POR hasn't really beat anybody. They beat SAC when the Kings' mod told us they were just out of sync in early Nov. They beat us, which now is looking a lot worse than it did at the time (but they beat us by 2 on a controversial ending to the game). They beat OKC, they beat ATL, and they beat the Spurs, which I don't think the Spurs are much more than average & maybe a bit below average.

POR better get it together because they have @ MIL, @ LAC, and vs LAL in their next 8 games. They get a home & home w/ the Bulls, @ CLE, vs OKC and vs SAC in the other 5. They need 4 of those 5 games because they way they're playing, they'll probably lose the 3 to those behemoths. If they were go 2-6 on that stretch, holy cow. You're talking about the front office not willing to invest in this year's team terroritory. You're talking about pushing on 10 games below .500 and next to zero chance of making the playoffs with no help from the Front Office.

We need to really root for POR to fall on their face these next 8 games. Knocks off one more of our competitors for those 6-8 playoff seeds.

They are 5 and 10.... Unless a miracle happens..
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Post#28 » by DJ_3_Ball » Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:54 pm

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DJ_3_Ball wrote:... We need to really root for POR to fall on their face these next 8 games. Knocks off one more of our competitors for those 6-8 playoff seeds.

They are 5 and 10.... Unless a miracle happens..


True. But, the Kings started out 0-5, and now they look like trouble again. A 5 game deficit isn't insurmountable or anything. Maybe 8 games and poor play over 1/3 of the season. I think that's where you can't dig yourself out of that kind of hole territory begins.

But, yeah. It's not looking good for Portland right now. :D
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Post#29 » by Zummba » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:22 pm

Portland is done. With the addition of Carmelo they just got more ISO and less defense. Not sure how this improves their chances. And I dont expect Nurkić to "dominate" right away when he returns.
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Post#30 » by DJ_3_Ball » Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:43 am

Suns just lost to New Orleans without Rubio & Baynes. Demonstrates how important those 2 have been to Phoenix's turnaround this season.
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Post#31 » by DJ_3_Ball » Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:54 am

I don't want to put a damper on the Mavs' excellent start, but the Mavs have had a favorable schedule to start the season. 10 of the first 14 games have been against teams that are dogs to make the playoffs. So in that sense 9-5 isn't really that impressive. In fact, it might be a game off pace. Although, we should of beat LAL, we were in the game late with BOS at their barn, and we haven't been out of any games we've played so far.

On Dec 14th vs MIA, the schedule starts to turn. The next 10 games until then are pretty important. vs CLE, 2 games with New Orleans, a game with the Clippers (when LAC is on the first night of a B2B, which hopefully means they rest Kawhi vs DAL, like they did when it was MIL one night & POR the next), then there's winnable games vs MIN, vs DET, vs SAC. The Mavs need to go 6-4 in this stretch. 7-3 or better would be a dream.

I think it's important for their confidence. Because you can look up at the standings now, see the Mavs in 5th place, and say but is that real? Isn't it too early, etc. etc. But, by mid December, when we're practically 2 months into the season, looking up and seeing you're 5-7 games over .500 and in the 4th/5th seed in a very tight Western conference, that's when it becomes real. I think that would give the Mavs a lot of confidence as they move into a tougher stretch of their schedule.
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Post#32 » by bran muffin » Fri Nov 22, 2019 7:44 am

DJ_3_Ball wrote:The next 10 games until then are pretty important. vs CLE, 2 games with New Orleans, a game with the Clippers (when LAC is on the first night of a B2B, which hopefully means they rest Kawhi vs DAL, like they did when it was MIL one night & POR the next), then there's winnable games vs MIN, vs DET, vs SAC. The Mavs need to go 6-4 in this stretch. 7-3 or better would be a dream.


So far, the Mavs have played the easiest schedule of any team in the Western Conference. But after tonight's Cavs game, the schedule is going to turn brutal:

    @ HOU
    vs LAC
    @ PHO
    @ LAL
    @ NOL
    vs MIN (b2b, KP load management)
    vs NOL
    vs SAC (b2b, KP load management)
    vs DET
    vs MIA
    @ MIL
    vs BOS
    @ PHI
    @ TOR
I'm guessing the Mavs will be under .500 by Christmas. They really needed to pad their win totals during the soft part of the schedule. Losing those 2 NYK games will come back to bite them.
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Post#33 » by DJ_3_Ball » Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:28 pm

bran muffin wrote:
DJ_3_Ball wrote:The next 10 games until then are pretty important. vs CLE, 2 games with New Orleans, a game with the Clippers (when LAC is on the first night of a B2B, which hopefully means they rest Kawhi vs DAL, like they did when it was MIL one night & POR the next), then there's winnable games vs MIN, vs DET, vs SAC. The Mavs need to go 6-4 in this stretch. 7-3 or better would be a dream.


So far, the Mavs have played the easiest schedule of any team in the Western Conference. But after tonight's Cavs game, the schedule is going to turn brutal:

    @ HOU
    vs LAC
    @ PHO
    @ LAL
    @ NOL
    vs MIN (b2b, KP load management)
    vs NOL
    vs SAC (b2b, KP load management)
    vs DET
    vs MIA
    @ MIL
    vs BOS
    @ PHI
    @ TOR
I'm guessing the Mavs will be under .500 by Christmas. They really needed to pad their win totals during the soft part of the schedule. Losing those 2 NYK games will come back to bite them.



Yeah, I agree. The schedule gets tougher. Even after that Toronto game on Dec 22nd. The schedule gets a little easier for about 2 weeks, and then gets pretty rough the rest of January, with a few easier games before the All Star break.

The good news is the Mavs haven't looked out class by anybody so far this year. Maybe Boston at the end of that game. But, the Mavs stuck with the Lakers. They were ahead most of that game & should have won it if the refs didn't blow that call on Dwight Howard holding at the end of the game.

I know that doesn't mean much. Comes down to Wins & Losses, but I see the Mavs being able to hang tight with some teams/games we might think they couldn't. For example, @ MIL, POR minus Lillard only lost by 8 points to MIL last night. It wouldn't shock me if the Mavs stole that game. Granted, that's about the end of Khris Middleton's time table to return, so we might have to deal with him too for that game.

As long as Luka is rolling, the Mavs will be in every game they play this year. We need to hope that translates to actual Wins, though, and not just competitive games.

We need the win vs CLE tonight.

That vs LAC game will be their first game of a B2B, and the second night is @ MEM for them. They chose to sit Kawhi vs MIL in favor of playing him the next night vs POR. Maybe, they'll sit Kawhi vs us and play him vs an easier opponent the next night.

PHX has Rubio and Baynes banged up, and they lost to New Orleans at home without those 2 last night. Can hope one or both miss their game with us.

The vs SAC game is their first game of a B2B with @ HOU the next night. Maybe we'll get lucky & they'll rest a guy like Bogdan. Unlikely, though.

The MIA game is their 2nd night of a B2B where they had LAL at home the night before. That's an advantage for us.

BOS has 5 days off before they play us. Wow. That's one I was worried about already. 5 days off is bad news for us I think.

The Philly game is their 1st night of a B2B, we might get lucky and they sit Embiid. Even though, Embiid is suppose to be playing both nights of back-to-backs this season again.


I think 7-8 over the next 15 games is not only doable but realistic. It isn't going to be easy, though. We're gonna have to find some way to ease the load on Luka to get it done.
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Post#34 » by Dirk » Fri Nov 22, 2019 7:11 pm

bran muffin wrote:
DJ_3_Ball wrote:The next 10 games until then are pretty important. vs CLE, 2 games with New Orleans, a game with the Clippers (when LAC is on the first night of a B2B, which hopefully means they rest Kawhi vs DAL, like they did when it was MIL one night & POR the next), then there's winnable games vs MIN, vs DET, vs SAC. The Mavs need to go 6-4 in this stretch. 7-3 or better would be a dream.


So far, the Mavs have played the easiest schedule of any team in the Western Conference. But after tonight's Cavs game, the schedule is going to turn brutal:

    @ HOU
    vs LAC
    @ PHO
    @ LAL
    @ NOL
    vs MIN (b2b, KP load management)
    vs NOL
    vs SAC (b2b, KP load management)
    vs DET
    vs MIA
    @ MIL
    vs BOS
    @ PHI
    @ TOR
I'm guessing the Mavs will be under .500 by Christmas. They really needed to pad their win totals during the soft part of the schedule. Losing those 2 NYK games will come back to bite them.

I am never very confident on the Mavs --- always feel like most teams have more talent, especially in the sense of having more than one guy who can go off, but the Mavs have more craftiness/team play/intangibles --- if I looked at the Mavs as a rival fan, I would be confused about who to fear, besides LD. With that said, I look at the home games and feels like they're all winnable given how this team looked the past two games. They won't win them all of course, but feels like the Mavs can beat any of those teams.

Who are the teams that are definitely worse/out of the playoffs in the West besides the Warriors?

Going into the year, I only looked at Phoenix, Kings,Pelicans and OKC (if they didn't compete) as definitely being worse than the Mavs.
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Post#35 » by dirkforpres » Fri Nov 22, 2019 7:18 pm

bran muffin wrote:
DJ_3_Ball wrote:The next 10 games until then are pretty important. vs CLE, 2 games with New Orleans, a game with the Clippers (when LAC is on the first night of a B2B, which hopefully means they rest Kawhi vs DAL, like they did when it was MIL one night & POR the next), then there's winnable games vs MIN, vs DET, vs SAC. The Mavs need to go 6-4 in this stretch. 7-3 or better would be a dream.


So far, the Mavs have played the easiest schedule of any team in the Western Conference. But after tonight's Cavs game, the schedule is going to turn brutal:

    @ HOU
    vs LAC
    @ PHO
    @ LAL
    @ NOL
    vs MIN (b2b, KP load management)
    vs NOL
    vs SAC (b2b, KP load management)
    vs DET
    vs MIA
    @ MIL
    vs BOS
    @ PHI
    @ TOR
I'm guessing the Mavs will be under .500 by Christmas. They really needed to pad their win totals during the soft part of the schedule. Losing those 2 NYK games will come back to bite them.


I think Dallas can win at least half of those matchups even if KP rests on the B2B games. It’ll be tough, but doable
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Post#36 » by J_T » Fri Nov 22, 2019 7:22 pm

DJ_3_Ball wrote:I think 7-8 over the next 15 games is not only doable but realistic. It isn't going to be easy, though. We're gonna have to find some way to ease the load on Luka to get it done.

I agree. And let's face it - if Mavs are not realistically expected to win 50% of games during ANY stretch of games (where number of home games is the same as number of away games), then they are NOT a playoff team. Especially in the West.
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Post#37 » by DJ_3_Ball » Fri Nov 22, 2019 7:43 pm

Dirk wrote:... With that said, I look at the home games and feels like they're all winnable given how this team looked the past two games. They won't win them all of course, but feels like the Mavs can beat any of those teams.

Who are the teams that are definitely worse/out of the playoffs in the West besides the Warriors?

Going into the year, I only looked at Phoenix, Kings,Pelicans and OKC (if they didn't compete) as definitely being worse than the Mavs.



I think San Antonio and Portland will miss the playoffs this year. Going into the season, I think there was some question about San Antonio making the playoffs. People saying things like "might this be the year?", but defaulting back to "It's the Spurs. The streak won't end this season." Ugh, yeah it will. No more Timmy, Tony, Manu, or Kawhi. The Spurs are bad. DeRozan and LMA don't work well together. They're out imo. Unless maybe they retool big time at the trade deadline.

Portland is out too imo. That's a team everyone had penciled in for a playoff spot. That's big because it opens up one more spot for the Mavs. Carmelo isn't going to make the difference. I kinda feel like Carmelo would of helped the Mavs, because we're so weak at our 3rd scorer. But, I think the extras that come along with Melo would of made it not work. I can't really put my finger on it, but POR hasn't got it going this year. It just seems like no Zach Collins, no Nurkic, and Whiteside on the court are all big time negatives for them. I think by the time they get it together, they'll have dug a hole too deep for them to dig out from.

Memphis won't make the playoffs. Not as competitive as the West is. OKC won't make it. I don't even think the Thunder Front Office wants to make it; nor should they want to make it. New Orleans has too many injuries & is too young imo.

I think you have to seriously wonder if Minnesota and/or Phoenix will hang around. I think both of those teams are 50/50. Sacramento is in the same boat imo. I think the Mavs are in that boat too. I like the Mavs chances the best because they have the best player among those 4 teams. Luka gets them in imo.

I can't really see LAL, DEN, HOU, LAC, or UTH missing the playoffs. Maybe LAL or DEN if they have major injuries come their way, but that's unlikely.

That leaves 3 spots. It's between DAL, SAC, MIN, PHX, and maybe POR, SAS or NO surprise us and jump back in the race.

Mavs are in the best position, though. They have a chance to build a lead. They could potentially be 8-10 games over .500 at the All Star break if they play well and get a little luck on their side. They could be sitting with the 5th or the 6th seed in the West. Could make the Buyers or Sellers question real easy on the front office. Which, for the Mavs, it's Buy no doubt, but if they're 8 games over .500 and 6th in the West at the trade deadline, makes the FO more inclined to feel comfortable buying a bigger piece.

MIN, PHX, SAC, POR, SAS, and NO all have serious work to do in order to have a record over .500 and a good seed in the West in hand by the All Star break. From a Mavs' perspective every game vs those 6 opponents is like NFC East games for the Cowboys. Division games. VERY Important. Swing games for the Mavs.

Oh & I think the Mavs are significant dogs vs BOS. The Celtics have 5 days off before that game. The Celtics handled the Mavs the best of any opponent so far, and Tatum was awful in that game. Granted KP laid an egg too, but that's the one game so far this year where I thought "Mavs probably won't win this one". But, I agree with the rest. Mavs have a shot in every game. As long as 77 is on the floor, the Mavs have a good shot!
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Post#38 » by DJ_3_Ball » Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:27 am

WOW. Portland just dropped a game to CLE. Cavs on the 2nd night of a B2B w/ no Kevin Love. POR gets Dame Lillard back, but it still doesn't matter. Holy Cow. POR 5-12 now. If I'm a Trailblazers fan, I'm pushing the panic button with both hands!
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Post#39 » by bran muffin » Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:06 pm

Just want to remind everyone that the Mavs own the Warriors' 2nd round pick after the season. The lottery doesn't apply to 2nd round picks. So if the Warriors were to finish the season with the league's worst record, the Mavs would own the 31st pick of the draft. That's in addition to the Mavs own 1st round pick, which would hopefully be in the 20s.
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Re: Around the NBA| Early playoff tracker, powered by ejs78 

Post#40 » by DJ_3_Ball » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:39 pm

bran muffin wrote:Just want to remind everyone that the Mavs own the Warriors' 2nd round pick after the season. The lottery doesn't apply to 2nd round picks. So if the Warriors were to finish the season with the league's worst record, the Mavs would own the 31st pick of the draft. That's in addition to the Mavs own 1st round pick, which would hopefully be in the 20s.


Yeah, I'm hoping the Mavs are either able to package it with their 1st round pick to move up for a guy they have their eye on. Or use it as part of a deal to acquire a piece they want.

Mavs can make the playoffs and still wind up with the 17th or 18th pick. Obviously would prefer the Mavs have a 4th to 6th seed for the playoffs, but in terms of the draft. If they do wind up with the 8th seed in the West, it won't hurt our pick come draft night.

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