Frank Ntilikina Signs With The Dallas Mavericks

[Apz]

Seems like Terry keeps going away to take care of personal stuff every so often.

Yeah, I was excited about him on draft night. Bill Simmons was in love with him & really butthurt the Celtics didn't take him. Seemed like a lot of scouts were high on him too.

At this rate, I don't think the Mavs will re-sign him. He's played all of 56 NBA minutes in his career, and wasn't even with the team for half the season last year. I could see him being thrown in as salary filler in a deal. Or even cut by next season if he continues to miss time with the team.

It's definitely concerning. Not to mention, whatever personal issues he's dealing with. They sound severe. Prayers up.

In the locked on mavs media day interview he said it was some psychological illness, but this sounds more like family issue.

Pretty sure he or burke will be traded pretty soon

[DJ_3_Ball]

Seems like Terry keeps going away to take care of personal stuff every so often.

Yeah, I was excited about him on draft night. Bill Simmons was in love with him & really butthurt the Celtics didn't take him. Seemed like a lot of scouts were high on him too.

At this rate, I don't think the Mavs will re-sign him. He's played all of 56 NBA minutes in his career, and wasn't even with the team for half the season last year. I could see him being thrown in as salary filler in a deal. Or even cut by next season if he continues to miss time with the team.

It's definitely concerning. Not to mention, whatever personal issues he's dealing with. They sound severe. Prayers up.

In the locked on mavs media day interview he said it was some psychological illness, but this sounds more like family issue.

Pretty sure he or burke will be traded pretty soon

If it's a mental health issue that's pretty confusing to me. There's counseling, medication you can take, etc. Most mental health illnesses are improved by exercise too. Although, professional sports comes with a whole other load of stress & pressure, so maybe not that great.

Also, sounds like a poor job by the scouting department not doing their due diligence on Terry. I agree. He's probably not a Maverick in 2 years.

[Darren]

To me, Ntilikina deserves a look over the likes of Thomas, Ellis and somehow Lance Stephenson. But I don't really want to cut any of the players. I think Burke, WCS or Terry are easily the waive target. But I think it is easy to get a second round asset in return. To me, I'd rather trade Brunson, not because of poor play or anything. Burke and Brunson are somewhat redundant. And Brunson will get significantly overpaid very soon. Meanwhile, Burke will likely stick around at 2/3M per for a couples of years like Barea did with the Mavs. It is reasonable contract on reasonable role. For Brunson, not so much. Paying Starter money for a backup role is never a good idea. I'd much rather pay DFS to 8/9M per. I don't think Brunson should be paid more than 4M per.

Gotta keep Brunson man. He's a part of the core. Burke really isn't. You keep the better of the two, even if you have to overpay for Brunson. But Brunson will be a re-signing and not a FA acquisition, so that means his increase in pay will be more reasonable. Just look at what the Mavs did with THJ, Kleber, DFS, and Powell (reasonable considering where they value him). You can throw Burke, WCS, Bobi, since those were technically re-signings too.

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Look! Burke runs the offense very well. But what've Brunson done? No team play. All broken plays. All teammates do not know where to go. This is the third year already. The Mavs couldn't afford awful plays for 2nd unit. There's a reason why the Mavs want Dragic badly. Dragic is positive on court meanwhile Brunson is negative indeed.

[Apz]

Yeah, I was excited about him on draft night. Bill Simmons was in love with him & really butthurt the Celtics didn't take him. Seemed like a lot of scouts were high on him too.

At this rate, I don't think the Mavs will re-sign him. He's played all of 56 NBA minutes in his career, and wasn't even with the team for half the season last year. I could see him being thrown in as salary filler in a deal. Or even cut by next season if he continues to miss time with the team.

It's definitely concerning. Not to mention, whatever personal issues he's dealing with. They sound severe. Prayers up.

In the locked on mavs media day interview he said it was some psychological illness, but this sounds more like family issue.

Pretty sure he or burke will be traded pretty soon

If it's a mental health issue that's pretty confusing to me. There's counseling, medication you can take, etc. Most mental health illnesses are improved by exercise too. Although, professional sports comes with a whole other load of stress & pressure, so maybe not that great.

Also, sounds like a poor job by the scouting department not doing their due diligence on Terry. I agree. He's probably not a Maverick in 2 years.

Mental illness, that was the word i couldnt remember haha. But he also said he didnt know that whatever it was ran in the family, so not sure what mavs scouting department got to do with it if he himself didnt know

[DJ_3_Ball]

In the locked on mavs media day interview he said it was some psychological illness, but this sounds more like family issue.

Pretty sure he or burke will be traded pretty soon

If it's a mental health issue that's pretty confusing to me. There's counseling, medication you can take, etc. Most mental health illnesses are improved by exercise too. Although, professional sports comes with a whole other load of stress & pressure, so maybe not that great.

Also, sounds like a poor job by the scouting department not doing their due diligence on Terry. I agree. He's probably not a Maverick in 2 years.

Mental illness, that was the word i couldnt remember haha. But he also said he didnt know that whatever it was ran in the family, so not sure what mavs scouting department got to do with it if he himself didnt know

I am bi polar, so I know the a lot of the signs mental illness (not just bi polar but other mental illnesses because they cattle herd you into group counseling sessions with all types). If the Mavs don't have someone in their scouting department who is trained to look for signs of a mental illness, then I would be surprised. It would be a gross oversight.

I'm definitely not one for advocating to discriminate against someone because of a mental illness, but this sounds to me (and I'm speculating, so take it for what it's worth), like either Terry has a very serious mental illness. My bi-polar is type 2, the less severe. He might have something far more serious, OR he might be failing to do his part and attend counseling & take medication.

He was just dealing with this in the Spring. That's the time when you have a breakdown, go get treatment, take medication, and usually you're better. Not having another breakdown 6 months later. Although, some people have annual breakdowns. It's just a little strange is all. Something isn't passing the smell test for me with Terry.

[Apz]

If it's a mental health issue that's pretty confusing to me. There's counseling, medication you can take, etc. Most mental health illnesses are improved by exercise too. Although, professional sports comes with a whole other load of stress & pressure, so maybe not that great.

Also, sounds like a poor job by the scouting department not doing their due diligence on Terry. I agree. He's probably not a Maverick in 2 years.

Mental illness, that was the word i couldnt remember haha. But he also said he didnt know that whatever it was ran in the family, so not sure what mavs scouting department got to do with it if he himself didnt know

I am bi polar, so I know the a lot of the signs mental illness (not just bi polar but other mental illnesses because they cattle herd you into group counseling sessions with all types). If the Mavs don't have someone in their scouting department who is trained to look for signs of a mental illness, then I would be surprised. It would be a gross oversight.

I'm definitely not one for advocating to discriminate against someone because of a mental illness, but this sounds to me (and I'm speculating, so take it for what it's worth), like either Terry has a very serious mental illness. My bi-polar is type 2, the less severe. He might have something far more serious, OR he might be failing to do his part and attend counseling & take medication.

He was just dealing with this in the Spring. That's the time when you have a breakdown, go get treatment, take medication, and usually you're better. Not having another breakdown 6 months later. Although, some people have annual breakdowns. It's just a little strange is all. Something isn't passing the smell test for me with Terry.

Hard to say with the info we got. But if it is something that runs in the family that he wasnt aware of, I must think that other people in his family would have seen the signs. I mean, must have been easier for them then a mavs scout that might get a few min with him

[DJ_3_Ball]

Hard to say with the info we got. But if it is something that runs in the family that he wasnt aware of, I must think that other people in his family would have seen the signs. I mean, must have been easier for them then a mavs scout that might get a few min with him

A mental illness isn't like cancer. Runs in the family, but didn't know I had it til I got an MRI kinda thing.

Assuming Terry isn't dealing with something extreme like schizophrenia, which I think is probably safe to say since he's made it to the NBA. He's been high functioning enough that the more extreme mental health disorders are unlikely.

Still, he knows he has something. At his young age, he might be in a situation where he believes his problems are other people's problems & therefore, doesn't think he has a problem. Just everyone else around him does. That also seems unlikely. Also, society has shifted since I was dealing with this 20 years ago. Society is a bit more accepting of mental health issues, especially the younger generation. As we've seen with Naomi Osaka. It's almost trendy to have a mental health illness now.

I think the most likely scenario is Terry stopped taking his meds or some event triggered a regression. I don't know.

I feel bad for the kid, but I also question his long term NBA prospects. Especially, if my suspicions are right & he's not taking his meds and/or missing counseling sessions.

For his sake, I hope he gets it together & makes it in the NBA, because if he washes out of the league & feels like he didn't give it his best shot. If he has mental health issues, that's a fall he likely won't be able to pick himself up from


Edit: You're also talking about a 5 minute interview. That's not how you detect something like this. You interview his roommates, his parents, his school teachers, etc. etc. and you look for abnormalities. Things like staying up all night. Things like talking about grand ideas one week and then not being able to get out of bed the next, etc. You don't even need to talk to Terry to find out if he has signs of mental health concerns. You just do your homework on the kid, just like hopefully the Mavs are doing on all of the prospects they're interested in.

[HairyGOATee]

To me, Ntilikina deserves a look over the likes of Thomas, Ellis and somehow Lance Stephenson. But I don't really want to cut any of the players. I think Burke, WCS or Terry are easily the waive target. But I think it is easy to get a second round asset in return. To me, I'd rather trade Brunson, not because of poor play or anything. Burke and Brunson are somewhat redundant. And Brunson will get significantly overpaid very soon. Meanwhile, Burke will likely stick around at 2/3M per for a couples of years like Barea did with the Mavs. It is reasonable contract on reasonable role. For Brunson, not so much. Paying Starter money for a backup role is never a good idea. I'd much rather pay DFS to 8/9M per. I don't think Brunson should be paid more than 4M per.

Gotta keep Brunson man. He's a part of the core. Burke really isn't. You keep the better of the two, even if you have to overpay for Brunson. But Brunson will be a re-signing and not a FA acquisition, so that means his increase in pay will be more reasonable. Just look at what the Mavs did with THJ, Kleber, DFS, and Powell (reasonable considering where they value him). You can throw Burke, WCS, Bobi, since those were technically re-signings too.

Watch on YouTube

Look! Burke runs the offense very well. But what've Brunson done? No team play. All broken plays. All teammates do not know where to go. This is the third year already. The Mavs couldn't afford awful plays for 2nd unit. There's a reason why the Mavs want Dragic badly. Dragic is positive on court meanwhile Brunson is negative indeed.

Disagree. I think the Mavs are gonna keep Brunson, and if not, then they'll include him in a trade for another star. They're not gonna let him walk away for nothing.

[arkuo]

Terry needs meds if it's mental illness. There are a ton of guys fighting tooth and nail for an NBA roster spot. At some point he has to realize he's been given a real good opportunity ans not go running home every time he has anxiety or something during the season.