What would you do about the playmaker situation?

[Michaellam1987]

I also voted for signing Schroeder for minimum contract. Low risk high reward move. And hope for some German connection with Maxi when they both come off the bench and play against opponent’s 2nd unit.

[Apz]

I find it funny that title of thread is about playmaking and like 9/10 options cant playmake. If by playmaker u mean scorer, go bigger. No point in getting some 6 1 guard if thats what we after. Feeling is schröder would be bad for lockerroom, rest is either junk or overpayed junk.

I voted wait and see. Worked last year. Wait til tradedeadline and see how things look, and do changes then if necessary. Already enough rosterchanges to risk screwing up the teamcohersion

[Bob8]

Dorsey left Oly and there's no news that he will sign elsewhere in Europe, the most logical explanation is that he has a deal with Mavs.

[41Dirk41]

I find it funny that title of thread is about playmaking and like 9/10 options cant playmake. If by playmaker u mean scorer, go bigger. No point in getting some 6 1 guard if thats what we after. Feeling is schröder would be bad for lockerroom, rest is either junk or overpayed junk.

I voted wait and see. Worked last year. Wait til tradedeadline and see how things look, and do changes then if necessary. Already enough rosterchanges to risk screwing up the teamcohersion

Yes, you are right... We need a ballhander/Brunson replacement.
Neither JB is a true playmaker.

[SOUNDCHASER]

Lawson is gone to minn.

[Darren]

Maybe the Mavs brings in Lofton or Tacko Fall.

[41Dirk41]

Lawson is gone to minn.

Bad new.

[41Dirk41]

Maybe the Mavs brings in Lofton or Tacko Fall.

I don't think Memphis will let go Lofton...

[arkuo]

I would like to see how Dinwiddie gets back to form on an expanded role too. Who knows, maybe he can handle it.

He's a mid year acquisiton that didnt go through training camp, just slotted in coming off a torn ACL injury. Normally players who go through ACL injuries only pick it up back again on the 2nd year back. Would be interesting to see if he can play an expanded role more. For like $18M per, he'd be great. At $27 to 30M, not so much.

Another thing to note is the re-integration of THJ. He too suffered a broken foot on the very first year of his new contract. I expect that foot to be fully healed by training camp so the team can get more buckets and points fast.

[SOUNDCHASER]

Maybe the Mavs brings in Lofton or Tacko Fall.

I don't think Memphis will let go Lofton...

yeah that guy looked like he was a man playing with boys. I like Tacko's improved play this summer league and he seems to be developing but either he or Whiteside or Kofi is getting kept and then we may have a crack at offering the remaining player a position here. Orlando Robinson did well with Miami and maybe they decide to keep what they already have and let him slip out of their grasp. Maybe Bingham was really impressing our coaches we really cannot tell at this point but we did lose Lawson and the MBT better hope Dorsey is a lot better player because if they had not signed Dorsey they would have had another spot to offer Lawson a 2 way.

[41Dirk41]

I would like to see how Dinwiddie gets back to form on an expanded role too. Who knows, maybe he can handle it.

He's a mid year acquisiton that didnt go through training camp, just slotted in coming off a torn ACL injury. Normally players who go through ACL injuries only pick it up back again on the 2nd year back. Would be interesting to see if he can play an expanded role more. For like $18M per, he'd be great. At $27 to 30M, not so much.

Another thing to note is the re-integration of THJ. He too suffered a broken foot on the very first year of his new contract. I expect that foot to be fully healed by training camp so the team can get more buckets and points fast.

He can handle it for sure and improve his chemistry with other guys, but we need another ballhander.

I read about DSJ... Not Brunson level for sure but he can help and for cheap.

[arkuo]

I find it funny that title of thread is about playmaking and like 9/10 options cant playmake. If by playmaker u mean scorer, go bigger. No point in getting some 6 1 guard if thats what we after. Feeling is schröder would be bad for lockerroom, rest is either junk or overpayed junk.

I voted wait and see. Worked last year. Wait til tradedeadline and see how things look, and do changes then if necessary. Already enough rosterchanges to risk screwing up the teamcohersion

They're looking for a secondary playmaker. That means you already have a primary playmaker. Typically youe secondary playmaker is primarily a scorer who can make plays on the side. It's the very definition.

Now if you want a guy who gets 10 assists per game like Steve Nash, those come at a price of $30M a pop and will need more touches than Luka to get to 10 apg. Rozier averages 19 pts, 4 rebs and 4 ast per game. That's good enough for a secondary role if your primary playmaker is Luka. He passes the ball so other players can score. Getting a player who plays 35 mins a game who cannot score doesnt win you basketball games.

And to add, Rozier actually spent time in jail. So I would like to see guys like Booker pull a Luka special with Rozier and Bullock on the floor. He can see if it's funny to those guys.

[Mavrelous]

Rozier was in jail? Wiki says his father did, not him, and believe me, Booker learned his lesson

[arkuo]

Rozier was in jail? Wiki says his father did, not him, and believe me, Booker learned his lesson

Might have got that part wrong. Mavs need to shed the good boy image so teams take them seriously. Soft guys like Booker was walking all over Brunson with Brunson keeping his head down. I liked that Bullock wantes all the smoke with Draymond during that series. Mavs need more of those guys because Powell, Kleber and DFS seem like the type to stand around and watch during a street fight. And Luka and Boban are busy making heart signs with their elbows on the bench. Something about the Mavs being too white and too nice. It goes back to Dirk rolling into a party with Brian Cardinal as his wingman. That has part has to change. Kidd + Dudley + Nico is a step in the right direction IMO.

[Bob8]

Rozier was in jail? Wiki says his father did, not him, and believe me, Booker learned his lesson

Might have got that part wrong. Mavs need to shed the good boy image so teams take them seriously. Soft guys like Booker was walking all over Brunson with Brunson keeping his head down. I liked that Bullock wantes all the smoke with Draymond during that series. Mavs need more of those guys because Powell, Kleber and DFS seem like the type to stand around and watch during a street fight. And Luka and Boban are busy making heart signs with their elbows on the bench. Something about the Mavs being too white and too nice. It goes back to Dirk rolling into a party with Brian Cardinal as his wingman. That has part has to change. Kidd + Dudley + Nico is a step in the right direction IMO.

Nobody will respect Mavs until they get better roster. This year will opponents have even easier job to do. Just slow Luka and most of the work is done. And we will hear again how Luka has to play good D, while scoring 30/10/10 with 40+ usage. And Kidd will challenge players to play better. Second best player being Dinwiddie. Clippers are having 7 players better than second best player of the Mavs.

[SOUNDCHASER]

Woods is a good player too. His shot from long distance is solid at 39%.

Dinwiddie played better once he got to Dallas he has the right stuff to be as good as Brunson and he defends better so the balance he brings is a good thing.

All in all I would say the argument over who is 2nd best is still up for debate between Din and Woods and Woods seems like he is that guy to me. if you play both with Luka in crunch and you have JaValle in there protecting the rim and DFS being the stopper for the other teams best scorer then your looking pretty damn solid if Woods can at least guard other 4's and maybe some 3's. That is a great crunch time lineup with four 3 point shooters in there and the pair of THJ Bullock and even Kleeber to bring in as a 3 point threat to go with 5 shooters.

In the playoffs you need a solid 8 man rotation and with Bullock THJ and just one other guy then we are at that magic number.

Who is going to be #8 for the Mavs?

Kleeber could be that guy if he regains his 40% 3 point shooting touch.

If Green turns the corner it could be him.

Heck if Frank can be a PG that can defend and he shoots ok from 3 then he could show signs of breaking out and be that guy.

Hardy is going to take some time to develop but I could definitely see him turning into that guy once he grows his game a bit more and that could take a year of seasoning or more.

That is 4 guys who could be # 8 and we can still trade off Powell and his expiring contract at the TDL with hopes we get an an above average # 8 guy.

For GSW #8 last season was Damien Lee who scored 7.4 PPG and shot 33% from 3 so a good # 8 guy is not needed. Wiseman should be # 8 this year though so we made the right move to add McGee and Woods.

[Bob8]

Woods is a good player too. His shot from long distance is solid at 39%.

Dinwiddie played better once he got to Dallas he has the right stuff to be as good as Brunson and he defends better so the balance he brings is a good thing.

All in all I would say the argument over who is 2nd best is still up for debate between Din and Woods and Woods seems like he is that guy to me. if you play both with Luka in crunch and you have JaValle in there protecting the rim and DFS being the stopper for the other teams best scorer then your looking pretty damn solid if Woods can at least guard other 4's and maybe some 3's. That is a great crunch time lineup with four 3 point shooters in there and the pair of THJ Bullock and even Kleeber to bring in as a 3 point threat to go with 5 shooters.

In the playoffs you need a solid 8 man rotation and with Bullock THJ and just one other guy then we are at that magic number.

Who is going to be #8 for the Mavs?

Kleeber could be that guy if he regains his 40% 3 point shooting touch.

If Green turns the corner it could be him.

Heck if Frank can be a PG that can defend and he shoots ok from 3 then he could show signs of breaking out and be that guy.

Hardy is going to take some time to develop but I could definitely see him turning into that guy once he grows his game a bit more and that could take a year of seasoning or more.

That is 4 guys who could be # 8 and we can still trade off Powell and his expiring contract at the TDL with hopes we get an an above average # 8 guy.

For GSW #8 last season was Damien Lee who scored 7.4 PPG and shot 33% from 3 so a good # 8 guy is not needed. Wiseman should be # 8 this year though so we made the right move to add McGee and Woods.

Bookies see things differently.

https://www.oddschecker.com/us/basketball/nba/western-conference/winner

[41Dirk41]

This team is incomplete, i'm pretty sure that Nico will sign or trade for someone like Schroeder, DSJ, Conley, ecc ecc

Dorsey starts the season in the Burke spot.

[Bob8]

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2022/7/20/23271348/a-possible-explanation-for-the-mavericks-quiet-trade-market

When people are starting to write articles like that, we know that Mavs are in deep **** and fans in denial.

It's really easy to explain, after losing Brunson, Mavs haven't anything interesting to trade. They can't even trade 2024 first round pick. It's very difficult to find a team with less assets than Mavs.

[41Dirk41]

The stars price is setted but only few of them worths it... Gobert not for sure. Mitchell maybe.

It's easier sign someone from FA... But we are the Mavs so maybe not for us