RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Pelicans (Thursd. 8:30PM EST)

[Mavrelous]

Ref saved the game for the Mavs

[Maverick41]

That's gotta be it for Timmy. There is no way he can start over Green.

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Yeah I've had a lot of THJ frustration games but man this one takes the cake. Guy just wouldn't stop chucking bricks.

[Maverick41]

Green was so good this game. Him and the refs saved the game.

[Mavrelous]

The total collapse at the end is inexcusable...

[dirkules_41]

Great, so we got a win but it was ugly and we lost 1 Luka and 1 Laser...

[Michaellam1987]

That's gotta be it for Timmy. There is no way he can start over Green.

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Timmy is completely useless if his 3 ball is not falling.

[Apz]

I start to lose all hope of thj. Which means he will hit 9 threes next game... Icecold and almost lost us the game

[Mavrelous]

4th quarter FGs for the Mavs were:
2 tip in shots by Doe Doe
3 shots by Green
The 3 vets crapped the bed when they were needed the most...
Bullock and Dinwiddie get a pass, THJ's performance is just inexcusable.

[Mavrelous]

Maxi coming back 2 moths after a surgery is wild, I hope they aren't rushing him, but Mavs medical staff isn't the rushing kind, Wood will be back though.

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[arkuo]

Some reports saying Luka hurt his heel during landing and not the ankle. Plantar fascia?

[arkuo]

Maxi coming back 2 moths after a surgery is wild, I hope they aren't rushing him, but Mavs medical staff isn't the rushing kind, Wood will be back though.

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True. No use for Maxi now. Just rest him until the playoffs. His 6 or 7 pts per game can be covered by someone else until he's 100%. No use rushing back. Its not as if he's scoring 20ppg and we need to replace thst number.

[Bob8]

I'm wondering if someone still believes that Mavs' problem is Luka not playing off ball enough and not setting screens for others?

[41Dirk41]

That's ugly.

Without Luka we are a lottery team. Embarassing.

Josh saved the day. He is good. Probably the only keeper outside Luka.

Lose the laser too hurts.

This match is the perfect representation of the competence of this FO. Disgusting.

[arkuo]

I'm wondering if someone still believes that Mavs' problem is Luka not playing off ball enough and not setting screens for others?

I still do. You got smaller guys like Curry and Dame not afraid to set back picks against bigger guys and then you have guys like Doncic who complains more than a football player to a ref. Country of 2M suddenly thinks they are a global power on internet forums just because they produce a guy who made it on the big stage. We didnt have this much friction when the germans were here in the early 2000s and Dirk was losing and people were calling him soft. Now people call Doncic out for things he doesnt do and suddenly its other people at fault. It's what we get for dealing with the uncultured side of Europe and it is understandable. Europe is so big so there are class levels to this and it shows. Our German friends on board are far more polished than our gyspy friends with all due respect.

We can have different views on it and no amount of advance stats can change my mind at this point and thats okay. It may change it the coming seasons though. It happens, we can have different opinions from time to time.

[arkuo]

That's ugly.

Without Luka we are a lottery team. Embarassing.

Josh saved the day. He is good. Probably the only keeper outside Luka.

Lose the laser too hurts.

This match is the perfect representation of the competence of this FO. Disgusting.

Something tells me Dallas "rushed" into competing too soon. I wonder if things might have been better if Dallas stayed in the lottery and got some high picks first after draftint Luka. But then again, hindsight is always 20 20. Easier said than done.

[Bob8]

I'm wondering if someone still believes that Mavs' problem is Luka not playing off ball enough and not setting screens for others?

I still do. You got smaller guys like Curry and Dame not afraid to set back picks against bigger guys and then you have guys like Doncic who complains more than a football player to a ref. Country of 2M suddenly thinks they are a global power on internet forums just because they produce a guy who made it on the big stage. We didnt have this much friction when the germans were here in the early 2000s and Dirk was losing and people were calling him soft. Now people call Doncic out for things he doesnt do and suddenly its other people at fault. It's what we get for dealing with the uncultured side of Europe and it is understandable. Europe is so big so there are class levels to this and it shows. Our German friends on board are far more polished than our gyspy friends with all due respect.

We can have different views on it and no amount of advance stats can change my mind at this point and thats okay. It may change it the coming seasons though. It happens, we can have different opinions from time to time.

Look, nobody you have mentioned have even similar usage and don't forget Luka is the best rebounder too. There's a limit of energy Luka can spend 5 days a week in 82 games season + playoffs. If anything, Luka is doing far too much.

Last game was perfect example. Luka 132.7 offrtg, Green, who has played very little with Luka 101.6. I would say that, what Luka provides is far more important than screens and off ball play every other provides. Mavs don't need Luka putting screens, but better players able to create something for themselves and others and when they get those, Luka could play off ball more, now he can't if Mavs want to win.

[Mavrelous]

They didn't rush, signing normal FA with cap space and resigning Brunson and this would've been a contender, they instead put their eggs in THJ basket and fumbled Brunson.
The fact this team is still 4th in the west with everything that went down tells you it's fixable, but they need to understand what went wrong to address it, I've seen 0 evidence of that.

[arkuo]

I'm wondering if someone still believes that Mavs' problem is Luka not playing off ball enough and not setting screens for others?

I still do. You got smaller guys like Curry and Dame not afraid to set back picks against bigger guys and then you have guys like Doncic who complains more than a football player to a ref. Country of 2M suddenly thinks they are a global power on internet forums just because they produce a guy who made it on the big stage. We didnt have this much friction when the germans were here in the early 2000s and Dirk was losing and people were calling him soft. Now people call Doncic out for things he doesnt do and suddenly its other people at fault. It's what we get for dealing with the uncultured side of Europe and it is understandable. Europe is so big so there are class levels to this and it shows. Our German friends on board are far more polished than our gyspy friends with all due respect.

We can have different views on it and no amount of advance stats can change my mind at this point and thats okay. It may change it the coming seasons though. It happens, we can have different opinions from time to time.

Look, nobody you have mentioned have even similar usage and don't forget Luka is the best rebounder too. There's a limit of energy Luka can spend 5 days a week in 82 games season.

Last game was perfect example. Luka 132.7 offrtg, Green, who has played very little with Luka 101.6. I would say that, what Luka provides is far more important than screens and off ball play every other provides.

It affects the whole system they play in. Kidd employs the same system when Luka is in or out. And that is why when Luka sits down or is out, Dinwiddie runs the same damn boring iso set and everybody still stands around watching Dinwiddie go 1 on 1. Problem is Dinwiddie is not Luka so there are shots he doesn't make. It's a system thing, not an advanced stats effectivity thing. You have to change how the team plays, and by that, I guess it also means Kidd has to go.

[arkuo]

They didn't rush, signing normal FA with cap space and resigning Brunson and this would've been a contender, they instead put their eggs in THJ basket and fumbled Brunson.
The fact this team is still 4th in the west with everything that went down tells you it's fixable, but they need to understand what went wrong to address it, I've seen 0 evidence of that.

Not really. I will need to correct you on this as I remember this very clearly. Cuban placed all his eggs on the Kyle Lowry basket. Even openly saying he wanted Lowry in Dallas. Short story is Miami got caught tampering and pulled the rug under Cuban again.

THJ was never in the cards. He was a backup signing in case Lowry went somewhere. THJ is a failure signing IMO.

[Bob8]

I still do. You got smaller guys like Curry and Dame not afraid to set back picks against bigger guys and then you have guys like Doncic who complains more than a football player to a ref. Country of 2M suddenly thinks they are a global power on internet forums just because they produce a guy who made it on the big stage. We didnt have this much friction when the germans were here in the early 2000s and Dirk was losing and people were calling him soft. Now people call Doncic out for things he doesnt do and suddenly its other people at fault. It's what we get for dealing with the uncultured side of Europe and it is understandable. Europe is so big so there are class levels to this and it shows. Our German friends on board are far more polished than our gyspy friends with all due respect.

We can have different views on it and no amount of advance stats can change my mind at this point and thats okay. It may change it the coming seasons though. It happens, we can have different opinions from time to time.

Look, nobody you have mentioned have even similar usage and don't forget Luka is the best rebounder too. There's a limit of energy Luka can spend 5 days a week in 82 games season.

Last game was perfect example. Luka 132.7 offrtg, Green, who has played very little with Luka 101.6. I would say that, what Luka provides is far more important than screens and off ball play every other provides.

It affects the whole system they play in. Kidd employs the same system when Luka is in or out. And that is why when Luka sits down or is out, Dinwiddie runs the same damn boring iso set and everybody still stands around watching Dinwiddie go 1 on 1. Problem is Dinwiddie is not Luka so there are shots he doesn't make. It's a system thing, not an advanced stats effectivity thing. You have to change how the team plays, and by that, I guess it also means Kidd has to go.

I don't like Kidd, but for different system you need different players. You really don't want from DFS, Bullock, THJ, Kleber, Frank...to do anything else than shoot open 3s. They lack fundamental skills to do anything else.