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RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Jazz (Mond. 830PM EST)

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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Jazz (Mond. 830PM EST) 

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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Jazz (Mond. 830PM EST) 

Post#22 » by joesha1698 » Tue Oct 29, 2024 5:42 am

What I liked the most is Luka looks slimmed down. The more confident guys get around Luka, the better for his long term health and his career. PJ Washington is our X factor. If we can develop him into a confident Draymond green lite - we'll have a chance to beat anyone this year. We saw 30% of his aggression level. I want to get his aggression level to 65-70%. I want PJ to be so aggressive that J.Kidd has to tell him to relax and not wake up. Psychologically when your 3rd or 4th best player is going at the other team and is successful is takes a team to the next level. We need to prioritize him making the same adjustment that Robert Horry and Scottie Pippen made in their career...when they went from okay players to guys with loads of confident and became a problem for the opposition. If i'm luka, kyrie, and Kidd - I'm in his ear and telling him, don't wait for us...push it off rebounds, play hard and smart, look to score, find a shooter, or finish at the cup. THE KEY IS CONFIDENCE.

The way I see it, we have 3 initiators in our starting lineups - Kyrie, Luka, and PJ. Those guys should be taking the ball off the glass and pushing the tempo - looking to score, pass, or find a finisher. I think PJ is the wildcard but if he's confident and gets use to that role come playoff time - its going to take a tremendous amount of pressure off our finishers and shooters. (not to mention Kyrie and Luka)

I think we need to establish roles when certain players are on the floor. But the most important thing we need to do is build up the confidence of PJ Washington. I cannot understate how more dangerous we are as a team if he's confident going 94 feet and making a play in this offense without worrying about deferring to Kyrie and Luka.

A 3 headed monster where the defense has to be concerned about anyone of these guys 94 feet is the key, imo. Or, at least what I would like to see. I saw a little of that tonight with PJ versus the Jazz but I would like to see this as a constant part of our attack. I would even like Marshall to play a similar role when PJ is out of the game. Dinwiddie is another guy that have that green like to be an initiators.

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Luka
Kyrie
Washington Jr
Dinwiddie
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Jazz (Mond. 830PM EST) 

Post#23 » by kanofwindHK » Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:13 am

Mavs play a bad games,
Other than Irving, Thompson, Dinwiddie, lively, ...............other player shoot really bad
We win today not because how good we play, just because Jazz is too weak only
We MUST improve our shooting for the tomorrow Min Games
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Jazz (Mond. 830PM EST) 

Post#24 » by Bob8 » Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:19 am

joesha1698 wrote:What I liked the most is Luka looks slimmed down. The more confident guys get around Luka, the better for his long term health and his career. PJ Washington is our X factor. If we can develop him into a confident Draymond green lite - we'll have a chance to beat anyone this year. We saw 30% of his aggression level. I want to get his aggression level to 65-70%. I want PJ to be so aggressive that J.Kidd has to tell him to relax and not wake up. Psychologically when your 3rd or 4th best player is going at the other team and is successful is takes a team to the next level. We need to prioritize him making the same adjustment that Robert Horry and Scottie Pippen made in their career...when they went from okay players to guys with loads of confident and became a problem for the opposition. If i'm luka, kyrie, and Kidd - I'm in his ear and telling him, don't wait for us...push it off rebounds, play hard and smart, look to score, find a shooter, or finish at the cup. THE KEY IS CONFIDENCE.

The way I see it, we have 3 initiators in our starting lineups - Kyrie, Luka, and PJ. Those guys should be taking the ball off the glass and pushing the tempo - looking to score, pass, or find a finisher. I think PJ is the wildcard but if he's confident and gets use to that role come playoff time - its going to take a tremendous amount of pressure off our finishers and shooters. (not to mention Kyrie and Luka)

I think we need to establish roles when certain players are on the floor. But the most important thing we need to do is build up the confidence of PJ Washington. I cannot understate how more dangerous we are as a team if he's confident going 94 feet and making a play in this offense without worrying about deferring to Kyrie and Luka.

A 3 headed monster where the defense has to be concerned about anyone of these guys 94 feet is the key, imo. Or, at least what I would like to see. I saw a little of that tonight with PJ versus the Jazz but I would like to see this as a constant part of our attack. I would even like Marshall to play a similar role when PJ is out of the game. Dinwiddie is another guy that have that green like to be an initiators.

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Kyrie
Washington Jr
Dinwiddie
Marshall


Naji will be out of rotation, if he can't hit 3s. He's DJJ replacement, at the moment he's not even near Josh replacement. Dinwiddie can't initiate anything anymore.

Mavs success will depend on role players doing what they were brought in, playing D and hitting open shots. Naji and Grimes are useless at the moment and their role is for sure not initiating anything. Both shooting 0% for 3 in first 3 games, and most of their shots way off, is nightmarish. Josh looked like Steph in comparison to them.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Jazz (Mond. 830PM EST) 

Post#25 » by Bob8 » Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:20 am

Luka has chosen right game to have 1 of the worst games of his career. That's the difference between coaches in Nba and coaches in Europe, he would have been benched in Europe playing like that. 22 shots, when you're totally off. :lol:
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Jazz (Mond. 830PM EST) 

Post#26 » by HMFFL » Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:48 am

Points in the paint
Jazz 46
Mavs 60

60 points in the paint is very impressive.

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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Jazz (Mond. 830PM EST) 

Post#27 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:49 am

Luckily the Jazz are pure trash, it's a free W.

Mavs played extremely bad (Luka was the worst player in the court by far) and every time they looked like a no coached team and that's probably the reality.
0 offensive schemes. It's all on Luka and Kyrie.
Embarassing.

The retarder version of Ralph Winchester don't know how to use Marshall and Grimes, seems he was the first time he saw them hahahahaha

PJ with a fantastic all a round game but in 2024 era he has to make those open 3s otherwise we will have a big problem in PO.

Kyrie and Klay played good, Spencer with those 3s probably won the game.
The Cs blocks a lot. Great.

No Maxi is always a great news of course. Rest him for 10/12 months please.

Just like i said last game i don't see room for Hardy, if his 3s don't fall he is almost useless. Good piece for a trade. Sad.

Marshall and Grimes shoot 0% for 3 in 3games... If they can't hit open shots they can't play in PO.
I'm agree with Bob, they're making you regret that Josh Green. Funny.

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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Jazz (Mond. 830PM EST) 

Post#28 » by Archx » Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:42 am

daoneandonly wrote:
Archx wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
Rebounding is a part of D


You're up 9 pts and opponent is shooting 28% from the field and you call that a bad defense because of offensive rebounds? How does that even make sense lol.


You just live to argue so we can just drop it. I didn't say it was bad, I said it wasn't amazing


I live to argue? Huh? You quoted me after i said Mavs played amazing 1st Q defense.

28% from the field for Jazz and you said no they didn't because of rebounds... Jazz had 5 ORBs more than Mavs and 2 rebounds more TOTAL (17-15). Mavs still held them to 19pts and 28% by also being up 9 on them. How is it then reasonable to say that Mavs played bad defense? I simply said i don't understand your logic and would like to hear your argument about that.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Jazz (Mond. 830PM EST) 

Post#29 » by daoneandonly » Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:46 am

Archx wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
Archx wrote:
You're up 9 pts and opponent is shooting 28% from the field and you call that a bad defense because of offensive rebounds? How does that even make sense lol.


You just live to argue so we can just drop it. I didn't say it was bad, I said it wasn't amazing


I live to argue? Huh? You quoted me after i said Mavs played amazing 1st Q defense.

28% from the field for Jazz and you said no they didn't because of rebounds... Jazz had 5 ORBs more than Mavs and 2 rebounds more TOTAL (17-15). Mavs still held them to 19pts and 28% by also being up 9 on them. How is it then reasonable to say that Mavs played bad defense? I simply said i don't understand your logic and would like to hear your argument about that.


Again, I never said they played bad defense, where did you see this? You said they played amazing, I said why I thought it wasn't amazing. Maybe we just have different definitions of that word.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Jazz (Mond. 830PM EST) 

Post#30 » by daoneandonly » Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:50 am

Win is a win so we can be happy about that, but not a great game to watch. Luka was horrendous and Grimes/Naji are a work in progress. Hopefully with time they'll figure it out.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Jazz (Mond. 830PM EST) 

Post#31 » by GermanFan120 » Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:34 pm

daoneandonly wrote:Win is a win so we can be happy about that, but not a great game to watch. Luka was horrendous and Grimes/Naji are a work in progress. Hopefully with time they'll figure it out.



I start to believe Grimes/Naji is equivalent to Green, or no better...
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Jazz (Mond. 830PM EST) 

Post#32 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:29 pm

Ger...anFan120 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:Win is a win so we can be happy about that, but not a great game to watch. Luka was horrendous and Grimes/Naji are a work in progress. Hopefully with time they'll figure it out.



I start to believe Grimes/Naji is equivalent to Green, or no better...


I hope not ... This would be a huge problem.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Jazz (Mond. 830PM EST) 

Post#33 » by Apz » Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:20 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
Archx wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
You just live to argue so we can just drop it. I didn't say it was bad, I said it wasn't amazing


I live to argue? Huh? You quoted me after i said Mavs played amazing 1st Q defense.

28% from the field for Jazz and you said no they didn't because of rebounds... Jazz had 5 ORBs more than Mavs and 2 rebounds more TOTAL (17-15). Mavs still held them to 19pts and 28% by also being up 9 on them. How is it then reasonable to say that Mavs played bad defense? I simply said i don't understand your logic and would like to hear your argument about that.


Again, I never said they played bad defense, where did you see this? You said they played amazing, I said why I thought it wasn't amazing. Maybe we just have different definitions of that word.


Reminds me of a great quote from the americans. The female russian spy talks to the fbi agent and says"You americans see everything as either black or white, while we in russia see everything as grey"

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