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Post#21 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:33 am

GermanFan120 wrote:I wonder what's Klay's trade value now.


Nobody cares because we will not trade Klay :wink:
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GermanFan120 wrote:I wonder what's Klay's trade value now.


Nobody cares because we will not trade Klay :wink:



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GermanFan120 wrote:I wonder what's Klay's trade value now.


Nobody cares because we will not trade Klay :wink:



With the 2 Wins, Kidd should stay for another 70 years.


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Post#24 » by Teffer10 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:51 am

Great 4 minute finish to the game.
I'm wondering if Dinwiddie has been holding Hardy back this year.

So what happens when Luka and Kyrie come back...what role will Hardy play and will he be able to get minutes?
And then if/when Exum comes back, how will that affect the rotation?

Does Hardy's recent play make Dinwiddie somewhat expendable in a trade?
Not sure he has any value other than salary filler but it is beginning to appear we'll have a log jam at guard.
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Post#25 » by Mavrelous » Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:05 am

Teffer10 wrote:Great 4 minute finish to the game.
I'm wondering if Dinwiddie has been holding Hardy back this year.

So what happens when Luka and Kyrie come back...what role will Hardy play and will he be able to get minutes?
And then if/when Exum comes back, how will that affect the rotation?

Does Hardy's recent play make Dinwiddie somewhat expendable in a trade?
Not sure he has any value other than salary filler but it is beginning to appear we'll have a log jam at guard.

Nope, Hardy is terrible iso player and weak ball handler, he should just shoot and attack close outs, Dinwiddie is terrible also, but he's a better ball handler and off the dribble shooter.
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Post#26 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:41 am

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Teffer10 wrote:Great 4 minute finish to the game.
I'm wondering if Dinwiddie has been holding Hardy back this year.

So what happens when Luka and Kyrie come back...what role will Hardy play and will he be able to get minutes?
And then if/when Exum comes back, how will that affect the rotation?

Does Hardy's recent play make Dinwiddie somewhat expendable in a trade?
Not sure he has any value other than salary filler but it is beginning to appear we'll have a log jam at guard.

Nope, Hardy is terrible iso player and weak ball handler, he should just shoot and attack close outs, Dinwiddie is terrible also, but he's a better ball handler and off the dribble shooter.


Agree.

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Post#27 » by Archx » Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:07 am

Teffer10 wrote:Great 4 minute finish to the game.
I'm wondering if Dinwiddie has been holding Hardy back this year.

So what happens when Luka and Kyrie come back...what role will Hardy play and will he be able to get minutes?
And then if/when Exum comes back, how will that affect the rotation?


Kidd is holding back Klay and Hardy not Dinwiddie. Both are best as catch&shoot guys. It's been more and more evident in the past few games.

If anyone is wondering what is wrong with Kidd's coaching, first 6 minutes of Portland game basically show it all. Couldn't score for 6 minutes and Kidd doesn't take a single TO to draw up a nice play to get them going. You have Klay on your team and the only shot he takes in that time is a forced 3, with ZERO plays for a scorer like him and you struggle to score. That's also why Klay has way better shooting and scoring %'s with Luka.

When Luka comes back, Mavs will go back to PnR action spam (hopefully) because that's the best thing they can do. I know some fans love role players passing around the ball because it's "good for the eyes" but Mavs right now have a -7.5 ORTG without Luka and that's HUGE.

I hope Exum comes back soon because they need his defense and it would mean less Spencer "20 sec dribble" Dinwiddie. I can't stand watching this guy run offense, it's a total **** show. Plus he's a black hole on defense as well.
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Post#28 » by Mavrelous » Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:23 am

When the 3pt shot isn't on fire, it's either miraculous ugly win or most likely a loss, it is what it is with the current available roster.
Dinwiddie is terrible, but he's the only reliable ball handler on the team, no one else can do that job.
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Post#29 » by daoneandonly » Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:23 pm

Ugly as me win, and thats ugly, but still enjoyable and take it. Seeing talk of Exum, at this point I'd just rather trade him, such a wasted roster spot
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Post#30 » by joesha1698 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:53 pm

Archx wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:Great 4 minute finish to the game.
I'm wondering if Dinwiddie has been holding Hardy back this year.

So what happens when Luka and Kyrie come back...what role will Hardy play and will he be able to get minutes?
And then if/when Exum comes back, how will that affect the rotation?


Kidd is holding back Klay and Hardy not Dinwiddie. Both are best as catch&shoot guys. It's been more and more evident in the past few games.

If anyone is wondering what is wrong with Kidd's coaching, first 6 minutes of Portland game basically show it all. Couldn't score for 6 minutes and Kidd doesn't take a single TO to draw up a nice play to get them going. You have Klay on your team and the only shot he takes in that time is a forced 3, with ZERO plays for a scorer like him and you struggle to score. That's also why Klay has way better shooting and scoring %'s with Luka.

When Luka comes back, Mavs will go back to PnR action spam (hopefully) because that's the best thing they can do. I know some fans love role players passing around the ball because it's "good for the eyes" but Mavs right now have a -7.5 ORTG without Luka and that's HUGE.

I hope Exum comes back soon because they need his defense and it would mean less Spencer "20 sec dribble" Dinwiddie. I can't stand watching this guy run offense, it's a total **** show. Plus he's a black hole on defense as well.



Its not because its good for the eyes. it's because penetrating, touching paint, ball movement, gets you a better shot and more people involve making your offense more dynamic and forcing the defense to work harder, which tires them out. In the long term, this keeps the defense on their feet and makes us more unpredictable on offense. It's also giving the role players the chance to the develop the habits and confidence to step up and not be overly dependent on one or two players to create all the offense. In the playoffs and in big games - this will bear fruit...last thing you want is to be in a big game and luka or kyrie (are having a bad game or series or getting double teammate) and the others are not use to stepping up without someone spoon feeding them.

When Luka is running the pick and roll (because he slow to get into the offense) it allows the defense to set up and really everyone is standing around. So, the pick and roll is a great weapon but its more important for guys to be confident and capable of stepping up if we want to win big. Boston just won a ring without 1 guy dominating the ball as much as Luka. I would actually argue that point guard dominate offenses typically dont win in the NBA per history. (ive made this argument a lot)

I do agree that Klay and Hardy are great catch and shoot guys. On the same token, Exum, Luka, and Kyrie are out - this forces Hardy into more of a ball handler role which is not his best asset. He is okay as a ball handler and a above handler playmaker. His best quality is his catch and shoot ability right now. I think Kidd can do a better job of defining roles.

Kidd recently asked the team not to take contested threes, re-penetrate, get into the lane and get a teammate an even better shot. You'll seen Maxi do a lot of that lately for that very reason. I think it's a good thing. This is a big trend in the league. Not taking the first 3 (if its contested) but penetrating and drawing the defense in ands getting a better. Boston does a lot of this.
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Post#31 » by Archx » Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:28 am

joesha1698 wrote:
Archx wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:Great 4 minute finish to the game.
I'm wondering if Dinwiddie has been holding Hardy back this year.

So what happens when Luka and Kyrie come back...what role will Hardy play and will he be able to get minutes?
And then if/when Exum comes back, how will that affect the rotation?


Kidd is holding back Klay and Hardy not Dinwiddie. Both are best as catch&shoot guys. It's been more and more evident in the past few games.

If anyone is wondering what is wrong with Kidd's coaching, first 6 minutes of Portland game basically show it all. Couldn't score for 6 minutes and Kidd doesn't take a single TO to draw up a nice play to get them going. You have Klay on your team and the only shot he takes in that time is a forced 3, with ZERO plays for a scorer like him and you struggle to score. That's also why Klay has way better shooting and scoring %'s with Luka.

When Luka comes back, Mavs will go back to PnR action spam (hopefully) because that's the best thing they can do. I know some fans love role players passing around the ball because it's "good for the eyes" but Mavs right now have a -7.5 ORTG without Luka and that's HUGE.

I hope Exum comes back soon because they need his defense and it would mean less Spencer "20 sec dribble" Dinwiddie. I can't stand watching this guy run offense, it's a total **** show. Plus he's a black hole on defense as well.



Its not because its good for the eyes. it's because penetrating, touching paint, ball movement, gets you a better shot and more people involve making your offense more dynamic and forcing the defense to work harder, which tires them out. In the long term, this keeps the defense on their feet and makes us more unpredictable on offense. It's also giving the role players the chance to the develop the habits and confidence to step up and not be overly dependent on one or two players to create all the offense. In the playoffs and in big games - this will bear fruit...last thing you want is to be in a big game and luka or kyrie (are having a bad game or series or getting double teammate) and the others are not use to stepping up without someone spoon feeding them.

When Luka is running the pick and roll (because he slow to get into the offense) it allows the defense to set up and really everyone is standing around. So, the pick and roll is a great weapon but its more important for guys to be confident and capable of stepping up if we want to win big. Boston just won a ring without 1 guy dominating the ball as much as Luka. I would actually argue that point guard dominate offenses typically dont win in the NBA per history. (ive made this argument a lot)

I do agree that Klay and Hardy are great catch and shoot guys. On the same token, Exum, Luka, and Kyrie are out - this forces Hardy into more of a ball handler role which is not his best asset. He is okay as a ball handler and a above handler playmaker. His best quality is his catch and shoot ability right now. I think Kidd can do a better job of defining roles.

Kidd recently asked the team not to take contested threes, re-penetrate, get into the lane and get a teammate an even better shot. You'll seen Maxi do a lot of that lately for that very reason. I think it's a good thing. This is a big trend in the league. Not taking the first 3 (if its contested) but penetrating and drawing the defense in ands getting a better. Boston does a lot of this.


Mavs got to the finals with the way Luka plays and role players stepped up a lot in spite of how Luka plays or i could argue BECAUSE how Luka plays. Doesn't matter, they got there, it works plain and simple.

In the finals everyone **** the bed, including Kyrie who is historically immune to any type of bad offensive schemes. Role players were missing easy open shots, that was it, no rocket science behind it.

After the Portland game Mavs still have -6 ORTG on offense without Luka running the show, that's not a small number, simple as that.

Barkley the other day said, Kidd is a genius for slowing down game vs Lakers and let Mavs beat them in half court. That's weird, because people always said Luka needs to play faster in order for offense to function better... Why is suddenly Kidd a genius when he does that but when Luka is doing it, it's not ok? How is that possible, where is the logic? We literally have the freaking numbers to back up what Mavs fans see and watch.

Some people simply can't comprehend that Luka is one of the best half court players of all time and his style works. Under Rick Mavs even ended with nr1 rated offense for the season.


WITHOUT Luka on the floor Mavs offense equals 10th best, WITH Luka ON the floor Mavs offense equals 3rd best.

If you're paid 15M per season to freaking play basketball you better make some plays or shots when you're called up and you get handed open shot after open shot on a platter, otherwise what the hell are you even doing there?
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Post#32 » by Archx » Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:34 am

Also another incredible fact from Mavs reddit.

Blazers had 93 shot attempts last night - Dereck Lively managed to contest 30 of them (32.2% of ALL shots!!!), and held them to just 9/30 (30.0%) FG
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Post#33 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:41 am

Archx wrote:
joesha1698 wrote:
Archx wrote:
Kidd is holding back Klay and Hardy not Dinwiddie. Both are best as catch&shoot guys. It's been more and more evident in the past few games.

If anyone is wondering what is wrong with Kidd's coaching, first 6 minutes of Portland game basically show it all. Couldn't score for 6 minutes and Kidd doesn't take a single TO to draw up a nice play to get them going. You have Klay on your team and the only shot he takes in that time is a forced 3, with ZERO plays for a scorer like him and you struggle to score. That's also why Klay has way better shooting and scoring %'s with Luka.

When Luka comes back, Mavs will go back to PnR action spam (hopefully) because that's the best thing they can do. I know some fans love role players passing around the ball because it's "good for the eyes" but Mavs right now have a -7.5 ORTG without Luka and that's HUGE.

I hope Exum comes back soon because they need his defense and it would mean less Spencer "20 sec dribble" Dinwiddie. I can't stand watching this guy run offense, it's a total **** show. Plus he's a black hole on defense as well.



Its not because its good for the eyes. it's because penetrating, touching paint, ball movement, gets you a better shot and more people involve making your offense more dynamic and forcing the defense to work harder, which tires them out. In the long term, this keeps the defense on their feet and makes us more unpredictable on offense. It's also giving the role players the chance to the develop the habits and confidence to step up and not be overly dependent on one or two players to create all the offense. In the playoffs and in big games - this will bear fruit...last thing you want is to be in a big game and luka or kyrie (are having a bad game or series or getting double teammate) and the others are not use to stepping up without someone spoon feeding them.

When Luka is running the pick and roll (because he slow to get into the offense) it allows the defense to set up and really everyone is standing around. So, the pick and roll is a great weapon but its more important for guys to be confident and capable of stepping up if we want to win big. Boston just won a ring without 1 guy dominating the ball as much as Luka. I would actually argue that point guard dominate offenses typically dont win in the NBA per history. (ive made this argument a lot)

I do agree that Klay and Hardy are great catch and shoot guys. On the same token, Exum, Luka, and Kyrie are out - this forces Hardy into more of a ball handler role which is not his best asset. He is okay as a ball handler and a above handler playmaker. His best quality is his catch and shoot ability right now. I think Kidd can do a better job of defining roles.

Kidd recently asked the team not to take contested threes, re-penetrate, get into the lane and get a teammate an even better shot. You'll seen Maxi do a lot of that lately for that very reason. I think it's a good thing. This is a big trend in the league. Not taking the first 3 (if its contested) but penetrating and drawing the defense in ands getting a better. Boston does a lot of this.


Mavs got to the finals with the way Luka plays and role players stepped up a lot in spite of how Luka plays or i could argue BECAUSE how Luka plays. Doesn't matter, they got there, it works plain and simple.

In the finals everyone **** the bed, including Kyrie who is historically immune to any type of bad offensive schemes. Role players were missing easy open shots, that was it, no rocket science behind it.

After the Portland game Mavs still have -6 ORTG on offense without Luka running the show, that's not a small number, simple as that.

Barkley the other day said, Kidd is a genius for slowing down game vs Lakers and let Mavs beat them in half court. That's weird, because people always said Luka needs to play faster in order for offense to function better... Why is suddenly Kidd a genius when he does that but when Luka is doing it, it's not ok? How is that possible, where is the logic? We literally have the freaking numbers to back up what Mavs fans see and watch.

Some people simply can't comprehend that Luka is one of the best half court players of all time and his style works. Under Rick Mavs even ended with nr1 rated offense for the season.


WITHOUT Luka on the floor Mavs offense equals 10th best, WITH Luka ON the floor Mavs offense equals 3rd best.

If you're paid 15M per season to freaking play basketball you better make some plays or shots when you're called up and you get handed open shot after open shot on a platter, otherwise what the hell are you even doing there?


Totally agree.

Luka is a juggernaut PO player, maybe the best performer in this era. Try to limit him is Just stupid and even J-Midd don't do it.
Players have to play different basketball when he is out for sure but with him on the floor follow him is the best system we can play right now.

Shaq basically said the same things, Kidd is a Genius because he asked to the players to play 1on1 against the Lakers because they can't guard us.
What???? This is the Kidd masterplan from day 1. No offense schemes. No system.
Let players do whatever they want.

I can understand why NBA ratings are all time low, if the "experts" are those guys who barely watch 1 game at night and a lot of YouTube highlights then people will avoid to watch them for sure :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#34 » by joesha1698 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:31 pm

Archx wrote:
joesha1698 wrote:
Archx wrote:
Kidd is holding back Klay and Hardy not Dinwiddie. Both are best as catch&shoot guys. It's been more and more evident in the past few games.

If anyone is wondering what is wrong with Kidd's coaching, first 6 minutes of Portland game basically show it all. Couldn't score for 6 minutes and Kidd doesn't take a single TO to draw up a nice play to get them going. You have Klay on your team and the only shot he takes in that time is a forced 3, with ZERO plays for a scorer like him and you struggle to score. That's also why Klay has way better shooting and scoring %'s with Luka.

When Luka comes back, Mavs will go back to PnR action spam (hopefully) because that's the best thing they can do. I know some fans love role players passing around the ball because it's "good for the eyes" but Mavs right now have a -7.5 ORTG without Luka and that's HUGE.

I hope Exum comes back soon because they need his defense and it would mean less Spencer "20 sec dribble" Dinwiddie. I can't stand watching this guy run offense, it's a total **** show. Plus he's a black hole on defense as well.



Its not because its good for the eyes. it's because penetrating, touching paint, ball movement, gets you a better shot and more people involve making your offense more dynamic and forcing the defense to work harder, which tires them out. In the long term, this keeps the defense on their feet and makes us more unpredictable on offense. It's also giving the role players the chance to the develop the habits and confidence to step up and not be overly dependent on one or two players to create all the offense. In the playoffs and in big games - this will bear fruit...last thing you want is to be in a big game and luka or kyrie (are having a bad game or series or getting double teammate) and the others are not use to stepping up without someone spoon feeding them.

When Luka is running the pick and roll (because he slow to get into the offense) it allows the defense to set up and really everyone is standing around. So, the pick and roll is a great weapon but its more important for guys to be confident and capable of stepping up if we want to win big. Boston just won a ring without 1 guy dominating the ball as much as Luka. I would actually argue that point guard dominate offenses typically dont win in the NBA per history. (ive made this argument a lot)

I do agree that Klay and Hardy are great catch and shoot guys. On the same token, Exum, Luka, and Kyrie are out - this forces Hardy into more of a ball handler role which is not his best asset. He is okay as a ball handler and a above handler playmaker. His best quality is his catch and shoot ability right now. I think Kidd can do a better job of defining roles.

Kidd recently asked the team not to take contested threes, re-penetrate, get into the lane and get a teammate an even better shot. You'll seen Maxi do a lot of that lately for that very reason. I think it's a good thing. This is a big trend in the league. Not taking the first 3 (if its contested) but penetrating and drawing the defense in ands getting a better. Boston does a lot of this.


Mavs got to the finals with the way Luka plays and role players stepped up a lot in spite of how Luka plays or i could argue BECAUSE how Luka plays. Doesn't matter, they got there, it works plain and simple.

In the finals everyone **** the bed, including Kyrie who is historically immune to any type of bad offensive schemes. Role players were missing easy open shots, that was it, no rocket science behind it.

After the Portland game Mavs still have -6 ORTG on offense without Luka running the show, that's not a small number, simple as that.

Barkley the other day said, Kidd is a genius for slowing down game vs Lakers and let Mavs beat them in half court. That's weird, because people always said Luka needs to play faster in order for offense to function better... Why is suddenly Kidd a genius when he does that but when Luka is doing it, it's not ok? How is that possible, where is the logic? We literally have the freaking numbers to back up what Mavs fans see and watch.

Some people simply can't comprehend that Luka is one of the best half court players of all time and his style works. Under Rick Mavs even ended with nr1 rated offense for the season.


WITHOUT Luka on the floor Mavs offense equals 10th best, WITH Luka ON the floor Mavs offense equals 3rd best.

If you're paid 15M per season to freaking play basketball you better make some plays or shots when you're called up and you get handed open shot after open shot on a platter, otherwise what the hell are you even doing there?


Mavs got to the Finals because Kyrie Irving (Clippers and Minny series especially) and Luka's play combined with role players like PJ and Derrick Jones playing incredible on both sides of the ball. It wasn't just Luka. We wouldn't even have got out of the Clipper series without Kyrie's play and leadership, imo. Additionally, PJ Washington play versus OKC was instrumental when you consider he wasn't even allow to get reps in the regular season in the post. So we basically asked him to do something that he never got a chance to practice for and he did it well. Additionally, he hit a lot of clutch shots and free throws for us.

As for why we **** the bed in the finals, a combination of things. One of the biggest culprits was the sheer slowness/ no paint penetration, no man movement in our offense with Luka bringing the ball up. They slowed down the game by pressuring Luka all the way up the court. By time we got into our offense - we get a pick and roll (which they completely switched bc they were okay with Luka going one on one every game) and had the personnel to defend it...athletic switchable guys. it's the same reason Kyrie struggled in the OKC series...he's in the half court versus guys who are very long and athletic and couldn't use his quickness to his advantage but I digress...what the Boston series should have taught Dallas is that - long athletic teams will just switch everything on Luka and Kyrie (let Luka settle for 3s...he shot 24% from 3 against Boston and shot like 9 a game..keep him out of the paint ) and keep the Mavs to one shot or pass with little ball movement or man moving and no paint touches. Along with that, we had a bunch of guys on the team (who can't get their own points unless their spoon fed the ball) and they weren't ready for the lights because we didnt allow them to really be apart of the offense in the regular season aside from catch and shoot and handing the ball to Luka. It's a recipe for disaster against teams like Boston and OKC.

All these teams we played before Boston had some type of flaw that we were able to manipulate. OKC's flaw was experience we were fortunate to get out of that series. They got better this year. It will be very hard for us to beat them if we're just depending on Luka pick and roll - and we don't get more ball and man movement in this offense and paint touches. Because we're doing this all for Luka (slowing down the game to his pace) but we're not considering Kyrie is not 6'8. So - we're just throwing Kyrie the ball against these athletic long switchable defenders and saying, do what Luka is doing at 6'2. This style is limiting our paint touches (vs teams who can defend it well - okc and bos) which is what ultimately collapses a defense and gets better looks for everyone.

So, when Kyrie struggles in the half court (with bad spacing, long athletic guys guarding him, and a bunch of teammates in an offense that is one-dimensional and depends on Luka and Kyrie bailing them out) its disrespectful to act like your putting Kyrie is the best situation to be successful. If Kyrie was 6'7 or 6'8 like Luka he would Kobe + and we would have a ring by now. The reality is, we're doing a lot for Luka and he's not delivering on both sides of the ball. One could argue, that Luka wasn't even the best player on the court in the Boston series. When you consider Luka's conditioning issues and his lack of impact on the defensive end(not saying he doesn't play defense, i'm saying he's not an impact defensive player like most great players in our league) and thus he still has a lot to prove. Luka's finals performance was a failure if your measuring him on the level of a great player. He didn't stand out at all on either side of the ball.

Boston is the litmus test. I would actually argue that OKC is built just like Boston so their gonna be a problem as well unless we figure out a way to create better spacing and ball movement in the half court - where our 6'2 talented guard is allowed to use his strengths to his advantage. I also think it doesn't make sense to have Gafford and Lively (on this team) who are liabilities on offense (versus teams like Boston and OKC). I watched Tatum guard Gafford and Lively throughout the finals and we could not take advantage of it because they don't practice scoring in the paint throughout the regular season. If it's not an alley hoop they struggle to consistently catch the ball in traffic and score.

I also think its wise that a guy like PJ Washington is getting the green light in the regular season and getting use to scoring and being confident aside from catch and shoot. We're gonna need guys to expand their games to beat teams like Boston and OKC.

All in all to beat Boston and OKC
-better spacing
-better man movement
-better ball movement
-we need to touch paint often (not wait for luka to run a slow pick and roll and get 1 shot or 1 pass and shoot per possession)
-coaching has to be better (put Kyrie in better situations to help the team vs these long athletic teams in the half court...if you don't your just asking him to go one on one with bad spacing and he's gonna struggle, he's not 6'8 like Luka and he's not 23 anymore)Kyrie should be constantly in motion ala rip Hamilton or allen iverson vs teams like Boston and OKC. Ironically, Brad Stevens(former boston coach) was one of the few coaches who understood this. I think Kidd treats Kyrie as an afterthought and just sucks up to Luka. Its kind of pathetic but if we want to win - you can't treat your players like this. This team will not win without getting the best out of Luka and Kyrie.

We're not using Lively and Gafford as offensive weapons on mismatches, so at this point, it makes no sense of having both of them. We're not going to beat Boston (we might not even beat OKC) this year in the playoffs if we don't improve on these things.

I kind of ranted a bit but it is what it is.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Blazers (Thursd. 7:30PM EST) 

Post#35 » by joesha1698 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:06 pm

I'm out here writing essays...damn right.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Blazers (Thursd. 7:30PM EST) 

Post#36 » by Archx » Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:36 pm

Since the draft Mavs have +4pt better ORTG with than without him. And this year (with so called better role "passing" players) they are 7 ranks LOWER than with him.

That's all we need to know.

They got to the finals with a combination of offense/defense but failed because their shooting went completely cold. Luka on one leg was still doing what he could. If he was such a problem, Mavs wouldn't even beat the LAC, so to me, its absolutely ridiculous to talk about this.

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