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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Celtics (Sat 5:30PM EST) 

Post#21 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:37 pm

Archx wrote:Even ESPN talking how bad Mavs are using Klay. Luckily he played good defense so far but 2 FG's and you have a hard time scoring is absolute madness.


Here a lot of people prefer Spencer Dinwiddie ISOs, he won a game for us. Don't forget it.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Celtics (Sat 5:30PM EST) 

Post#22 » by daoneandonly » Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:52 pm

Kidd owns the lion share of the blame, but Klay too. He's just so unathletic now, can't move like a contending team needs their starters to. He himself has to get open more.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Celtics (Sat 5:30PM EST) 

Post#23 » by Archx » Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:10 am

daoneandonly wrote:Kidd owns the lion share of the blame, but Klay too. He's just so unathletic now, can't move like a contending team needs their starters to. He himself has to get open more.


He's literally the only guy running around trying to get himself open lol. Unless they have someone on top of the lane spacing to play ISO. Which is basically 95% of the time.

I tell you, if Mavs avoided injuries like they're ignoring Klay, they would probably be the healthiest team in the league.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Celtics (Sat 5:30PM EST) 

Post#24 » by Archx » Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:16 am

Can't believe Maxi still plays over OMax. I really can't believe this.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Celtics (Sat 5:30PM EST) 

Post#25 » by Doranku » Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:22 am

Maxi's impact is crazy. -19 in just 11 minutes. 0 defensive rebounds again because the opposing team scores every possession he's on the court.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Celtics (Sat 5:30PM EST) 

Post#26 » by Archx » Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:27 am

Doranku wrote:Maxi's impact is crazy. -19 in just 11 minutes. 0 defensive rebounds again because the opposing team scores every possession he's on the court.



OMax makes 1 mistake and is benched for the game. That's the pro coach. And now midget lineups when Mavs can't even secure a defensive rebound anymore.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Celtics (Sat 5:30PM EST) 

Post#27 » by daoneandonly » Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:40 am

Lost useless season.

Problem with firing Kidd, it will upset Kyrie and Luka. Kyrie idolizes the guy and Kidd placate Luka's ego and allows him to eat,vdrink, hookah, and play video games instead of working out
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Celtics (Sat 5:30PM EST) 

Post#28 » by GermanFan120 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:05 am

Another game. Another loss. Another Spencer > Klay proof. :lol:
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Celtics (Sat 5:30PM EST) 

Post#29 » by joesha1698 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 4:44 am

daoneandonly wrote:Lost useless season.

Problem with firing Kidd, it will upset Kyrie and Luka. Kyrie idolizes the guy and Kidd placate Luka's ego and allows him to eat,vdrink, hookah, and play video games instead of working out


I do think it may upset Luka and Kyrie (rightfully so) because this team hasnt been healthy and filled all their holes...so as much as it sounds like a good idea to fire kid, its a huge gamble when he has built some chemistry with these players and vice versa.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Celtics (Sat 5:30PM EST) 

Post#30 » by Darren » Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:38 am

Now, brings in Jamarion Sharp and see what happens. I doesn't make sense to make a major move with current standing. Of course, if Klay wants to move on, the Mavs should do Klay a favor.

The Mavs is playing exhausted. Kyrie, Gafford and Grimes show up for stretch. But it's impossible to keep the production to extensive period. Give OMax minutes. At least, OMax plays better than Maxi. Dinwiddie has to complain less often. I think it's better to insert Sharp and OMax in rotation. It doesn't matter what the standing end up. Without Lively, I don't think the Mavs gets out of first round or even play in. I wonder if the Mavs is able to keep 2025 pick, though.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Celtics (Sat 5:30PM EST) 

Post#31 » by 41Dirk41 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:01 am

Archx wrote:Even ESPN talking how bad Mavs are using Klay. Luckily he played good defense so far but 2 FG's and you have a hard time scoring is absolute madness.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

If ESPN also noticed it, it means it's really obvious... but if you put the ball in Dinwiddie's hands it can only go like this.

He plays losing basketball, he played losing basketball all his entire career. He can't play the point or generate basketball for others. He is a SG with cone vision and bad shoots selection.

But don't worry my friend, when Kidd system comes back everything will be fine again.
Klay will have his open looks again and Dinwiddie will sit on the bench just next to his best friend Kidd.

Kleber is trash, but according to the axiom of this forum he won a game for us this year so free light all life for him.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Celtics (Sat 5:30PM EST) 

Post#32 » by Mavrelous » Sun Jan 26, 2025 11:21 am

I'm impressed it was this close, now, the real test starts...
3 winnable games, the team has played enough games to learn how to play w/o Luka, the team has lost enough winnable games to eat into their margin, now is the time to fix, every game of the next 3 is a must win, and a single loss should be grounds for considering firing the coach, if you can't coach through adversity and all you can come up with is 20% win%, you shouldn't coach.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Celtics (Sat 5:30PM EST) 

Post#33 » by Archx » Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:16 pm

Mavrelous wrote:I'm impressed it was this close, now, the real test starts...
3 winnable games, the team has played enough games to learn how to play w/o Luka, the team has lost enough winnable games to eat into their margin, now is the time to fix, every game of the next 3 is a must win, and a single loss should be grounds for considering firing the coach, if you can't coach through adversity and all you can come up with is 20% win%, you shouldn't coach.


Maxi with a broken foot, out for extended time now. Sucks for Maxi but probably best for the team because OMax has been better. I hope he gets extended run and doesn't get benched if he makes one mistake like last game. But i never trust Kidd to do the right thing anyway, i rather keep expectations low so the surprise is bigger then :D

Luka coming back in two week time, team just needs these easy wins and hold on. Every competition in the standing is also winning right now. Mavs are 9th only 1.5 game away from 11th spot. This could be a rough 2nd half of the season.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Celtics (Sat 5:30PM EST) 

Post#34 » by Teffer10 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:26 pm

Archx wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:I'm impressed it was this close, now, the real test starts...
3 winnable games, the team has played enough games to learn how to play w/o Luka, the team has lost enough winnable games to eat into their margin, now is the time to fix, every game of the next 3 is a must win, and a single loss should be grounds for considering firing the coach, if you can't coach through adversity and all you can come up with is 20% win%, you shouldn't coach.


Maxi with a broken foot, out for extended time now. Sucks for Maxi but probably best for the team because OMax has been better. I hope he gets extended run and doesn't get benched if he makes one mistake like last game. But i never trust Kidd to do the right thing anyway, i rather keep expectations low so the surprise is bigger then :D

Luka coming back in two week time, team just needs these easy wins and hold on. Every competition in the standing is also winning right now. Mavs are 9th only 1.5 game away from 11th spot. This could be a rough 2nd half of the season.

Haven't seen the last few games but Cooperstein was raving about OMax's performance against OKC.
Looked at the scorebox and saw OMax only had 4 minutes against the Celts.

Kidd's lack of developing OMax is really pissing me off because he could become useful in the POs.
If he couldn't get in a game like this, he must be unplayable in Kidd's eyes.

Full strength it makes some sense for OMax to be the odd man out, but we are anything but full strength and this is the time to at least showcase him for a trade.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Celtics (Sat 5:30PM EST) 

Post#35 » by 41Dirk41 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:51 pm

Archx wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:I'm impressed it was this close, now, the real test starts...
3 winnable games, the team has played enough games to learn how to play w/o Luka, the team has lost enough winnable games to eat into their margin, now is the time to fix, every game of the next 3 is a must win, and a single loss should be grounds for considering firing the coach, if you can't coach through adversity and all you can come up with is 20% win%, you shouldn't coach.


Maxi with a broken foot, out for extended time now. Sucks for Maxi but probably best for the team because OMax has been better. I hope he gets extended run and doesn't get benched if he makes one mistake like last game. But i never trust Kidd to do the right thing anyway, i rather keep expectations low so the surprise is bigger then :D

Luka coming back in two week time, team just needs these easy wins and hold on. Every competition in the standing is also winning right now. Mavs are 9th only 1.5 game away from 11th spot. This could be a rough 2nd half of the season.


This is the best news in months for us, finally Maxi is out of rotations. Thanks God.
Last year it was the turning point in PO, i hope it will be the same in RS.

However he was untradable this year, so no problem.
Kick his useless ass next year as a expires.

Kidd was disastrous in this stretch (5-12) but it is his value as a coach, luckily his system will be back soon.
Cut some bad players can only help him like last year.
I hope it's a season ending injury and there will be complications during the recovery.
I don't want to see him on the court with our jersey.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Celtics (Sat 5:30PM EST) 

Post#36 » by GermanFan120 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 4:18 pm

Kidd is bad, therefore he is the reason Klay has not been effective or any good?

Was Klay effective last year with better coach and better offense scheme? Was GSW a joke or contender last year?

0 point in his last GSW game ladies and gentlemen. :lol:
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Celtics (Sat 5:30PM EST) 

Post#37 » by Archx » Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:03 pm

GermanFan120 wrote:Kidd is bad, therefore he is the reason Klay has not been effective or any good?

Was Klay effective last year with better coach and better offense scheme? Was GSW a joke or contender last year?

0 point in his last GSW game ladies and gentlemen. :lol:



From an article.

Klay is averaging 11.9 points per game while shooting 37.9 percent from the field and 34.2 percent from downtown in games without Doncic, and the quality of shots that he gets is much lower when Doncic is sidelined


With Doncic in the lineup, Thompson is averaging 14.9 points while shooting 43.4 percent from the field and 40.6 percent from downtown. As shown by these stats, Thompson is much more effective with Doncic on the floor with him. Doncic is always looking to get Thompson open looks behind the arc, and his on-ball gravity and unreal playmaking are a perfect fit next to Thompson. Doncic is the best playmaker that Thompson has ever played with, and he has been getting some of the best shots of his career when Dallas uses him correctly and emphasizes getting him involved with off-ball actions.

The duo of Thompson and Doncic posts a 120 offensive rating when they are on the floor together

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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Celtics (Sat 5:30PM EST) 

Post#38 » by 41Dirk41 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 6:14 pm

Unfortunately this little game will end soon... too bad it was fun, not like the one with Irving obviously...we will have to settle...
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Celtics (Sat 5:30PM EST) 

Post#39 » by Bob8 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 6:45 pm

Archx wrote:
GermanFan120 wrote:Kidd is bad, therefore he is the reason Klay has not been effective or any good?

Was Klay effective last year with better coach and better offense scheme? Was GSW a joke or contender last year?

0 point in his last GSW game ladies and gentlemen. :lol:



From an article.

Klay is averaging 11.9 points per game while shooting 37.9 percent from the field and 34.2 percent from downtown in games without Doncic, and the quality of shots that he gets is much lower when Doncic is sidelined


With Doncic in the lineup, Thompson is averaging 14.9 points while shooting 43.4 percent from the field and 40.6 percent from downtown. As shown by these stats, Thompson is much more effective with Doncic on the floor with him. Doncic is always looking to get Thompson open looks behind the arc, and his on-ball gravity and unreal playmaking are a perfect fit next to Thompson. Doncic is the best playmaker that Thompson has ever played with, and he has been getting some of the best shots of his career when Dallas uses him correctly and emphasizes getting him involved with off-ball actions.

The duo of Thompson and Doncic posts a 120 offensive rating when they are on the floor together

What else would you like to know?


I believe something must be going on, Kyrie has made 1 assists to Klay in last 16 games. Kyrie is not Pg and is having tunnel vision sometimes, but that's still extreme. Klay is averaging only 7 shots in last 5 games. His FA should have been going considerably up with half of roster missing, but they plunged instead. Kleber for example is averaging 4.5 shots in last 5 games. I don't believe that's only because of Luka being out. We're not knowing something.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Celtics (Sat 5:30PM EST) 

Post#40 » by GermanFan120 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 6:54 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Archx wrote:
GermanFan120 wrote:Kidd is bad, therefore he is the reason Klay has not been effective or any good?

Was Klay effective last year with better coach and better offense scheme? Was GSW a joke or contender last year?

0 point in his last GSW game ladies and gentlemen. :lol:



From an article.

Klay is averaging 11.9 points per game while shooting 37.9 percent from the field and 34.2 percent from downtown in games without Doncic, and the quality of shots that he gets is much lower when Doncic is sidelined


With Doncic in the lineup, Thompson is averaging 14.9 points while shooting 43.4 percent from the field and 40.6 percent from downtown. As shown by these stats, Thompson is much more effective with Doncic on the floor with him. Doncic is always looking to get Thompson open looks behind the arc, and his on-ball gravity and unreal playmaking are a perfect fit next to Thompson. Doncic is the best playmaker that Thompson has ever played with, and he has been getting some of the best shots of his career when Dallas uses him correctly and emphasizes getting him involved with off-ball actions.

The duo of Thompson and Doncic posts a 120 offensive rating when they are on the floor together

What else would you like to know?


I believe something must be going on, Kyrie has made 1 assists to Klay in last 16 games. Kyrie is not Pg and is having tunnel vision sometimes, but that's still extreme. Klay is averaging only 7 shots in last 5 games. His FA should have been going considerably up with half of roster missing, but they plunged instead. Kleber for example is averaging 4.5 shots in last 5 games. I don't believe that's only because of Luka being out. We're not knowing something.


Maybe teammates have lost patience and trust on him. lol
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