Luka didnt want to be here?

[joesha1698]

The only 3 people in the world who support this trade are you, Charles Barkley and Kendrick Perkins.

It's enough.

Ownership made this call. I support getting A.Davis back in return. I think under the circumstances Nico had to keep this on the hush (without drawing any attention) and he called someone who he knew would keep quiet (Pelinka) and got the best possible player he could get under the directives of the ownership. It's no surprise that Lebron is getting old and the Lakers want a big name star.

Now, if I was advising ownership, would I advise them to trade Luka? Most likely not. Am I happy we got AD back considering the constraints I believe ownership put Nico under, yes. Do I think this was the best thing to happen to Luka's career? Yes. Even though it sucks for Mav fans - Luka actually wasnt taking his body seriously. Adversity needs to happen to propel you to be better.

Let's stop pretending this was Nico's decision. You don't trade the franchise player without ownership wanting to do it and telling you to do it.

[41Dirk41]

The only 3 people in the world who support this trade are you, Charles Barkley and Kendrick Perkins.

It's enough.

Ownership made this call. I support getting A.Davis back in return. I think under the circumstances Nico had to keep this on the hush (without drawing any attention) and he called someone who he knew would keep quiet (Pelinka) and got the best possible player he could get under the directives of the ownership. It's no surprise that Lebron is getting old and the Lakers want a big name star.

Now, if I was advising ownership, would I advise them to trade Luka? Most likely not. Am I happy we got AD back considering the constraints I believe ownership put Nico under, yes. Do I think this was the best thing to happen to Luka's career? Yes. Even though it sucks for Mav fans - Luka actually wasnt taking his body seriously. Adversity needs to happen to propel you to be better.

Let's stop pretending this was Nico's decision. You don't trade the franchise player without ownership wanting to do it and telling you to do it.

Man, don't come here to explain how the world works. we all know well that they agreed from above.

But Nico puts his face on this trade and laughed at the press conference ahead of Mavs fanbase.

He deserves all this ****. And more. Karma is a bitch.
Watch out Nico. Watch out.

[joesha1698]

Well, you listened some podcast. Great point.

Mav, please.

Want me to tell you a secret? He listened to Windhorst and MacMahon. He copied them almost word for word. 2 of the biggest Luka haters out there among ESPN reporters. It's unbelievable what kind of crap Windy has come up with in the past and people sadly picked it up. And the other guy, well, we know basically entire Mavs front office doesn't like him at all because he's a drama queen reporter.

Mavs fanbase is at it's lowest point, i totally expected he'll write something to piss people off and he succeeded (again). Can't wait until Mavrelous will have enough of his BS

Windhorst is hard on Luka but was hard on Kyrie was well. He told Nico he made a mistake trading for Kyrie in person. Honestly, I wasnt quoting them word for word or at all. I don't care for ESPN or their reporters tbh. I know Windy's is a Lebron homer and incentivized to hate on anyone that takes Lebron's shine a way. However, Windhorst criticism of Luka's defense in the finals, blow by rate, and just overall lack of conditioning is fair game.

[Archx]

The only 3 people in the world who support this trade are you, Charles Barkley and Kendrick Perkins.

It's enough.

Ownership made this call. I support getting A.Davis back in return. I think under the circumstances Nico had to keep this on the hush (without drawing any attention) and he called someone who he knew would keep quiet (Pelinka) and got the best possible player he could get under the directives of the ownership. It's no surprise that Lebron is getting old and the Lakers want a big name star.

Now, if I was advising ownership, would I advise them to trade Luka? Most likely not. Am I happy we got AD back considering the constraints I believe ownership put Nico under, yes. Do I think this was the best thing to happen to Luka's career? Yes. Even though it sucks for Mav fans - Luka actually wasnt taking his body seriously. Adversity needs to happen to propel you to be better.

Let's stop pretending this was Nico's decision. You don't trade the franchise player without ownership wanting to do it and telling you to do it.

[joesha1698]

The only 3 people in the world who support this trade are you, Charles Barkley and Kendrick Perkins.

It's enough.

Ownership made this call. I support getting A.Davis back in return. I think under the circumstances Nico had to keep this on the hush (without drawing any attention) and he called someone who he knew would keep quiet (Pelinka) and got the best possible player he could get under the directives of the ownership. It's no surprise that Lebron is getting old and the Lakers want a big name star.

Now, if I was advising ownership, would I advise them to trade Luka? Most likely not. Am I happy we got AD back considering the constraints I believe ownership put Nico under, yes. Do I think this was the best thing to happen to Luka's career? Yes. Even though it sucks for Mav fans - Luka actually wasnt taking his body seriously. Adversity needs to happen to propel you to be better.

Let's stop pretending this was Nico's decision. You don't trade the franchise player without ownership wanting to do it and telling you to do it.

Man, don't come here to explain how the world works. we all know well that they agreed from above.

But Nico puts his face on this trade and laughed at the press conference ahead of Mavs fanbase.

He deserves all this ****. And more. Karma is a bitch.
Watch out Nico. Watch out.

LOL, you making me laugh. You just determined to hate the fall guy. Nico is the fall guy.Just so you know. Luka has to take some blame in this situation because aside from conspiracy theories - being out of shape doing a contract year / after making the finals - doesnt get you a vote of confidence from mgmt. Especially after they just watched you struggle (throughout the whole last season and playoffs) and despite that he chose to play in the Olympics.... We gotta be fair here. A lot of this falls on Luka.

[Bob8]

Ownership made this call. I support getting A.Davis back in return. I think under the circumstances Nico had to keep this on the hush (without drawing any attention) and he called someone who he knew would keep quiet (Pelinka) and got the best possible player he could get under the directives of the ownership. It's no surprise that Lebron is getting old and the Lakers want a big name star.

Now, if I was advising ownership, would I advise them to trade Luka? Most likely not. Am I happy we got AD back considering the constraints I believe ownership put Nico under, yes. Do I think this was the best thing to happen to Luka's career? Yes. Even though it sucks for Mav fans - Luka actually wasnt taking his body seriously. Adversity needs to happen to propel you to be better.

Let's stop pretending this was Nico's decision. You don't trade the franchise player without ownership wanting to do it and telling you to do it.

Man, don't come here to explain how the world works. we all know well that they agreed from above.

But Nico puts his face on this trade and laughed at the press conference ahead of Mavs fanbase.

He deserves all this ****. And more. Karma is a bitch.
Watch out Nico. Watch out.

LOL, you making me laugh. You just determined to hate the fall guy. Nico is the fall guy.Just so you know. Luka has to take some blame in this situation because aside from conspiracy theories - being out of shape doing a contract year / after making the finals - doesnt get you a vote of confidence from mgmt. Especially after they just watched you struggle (throughout the whole last season and playoffs) and despite that he chose to play with in the Olympics.... We gotta be fair here. A lot of this falls on Luka.

Yes, you trade 25 years old superstar, who was 5 years in a row in first All Nba team, has scoring title, although struggling immensely, and while struggling brought you in the Finals half year ago, because he's out of shape.

Nico is an idiot. Vast majority people already know that and others will know that really soon.

Btw. He didn't play in Olympics.

[joesha1698]

Man, don't come here to explain how the world works. we all know well that they agreed from above.

But Nico puts his face on this trade and laughed at the press conference ahead of Mavs fanbase.

He deserves all this ****. And more. Karma is a bitch.
Watch out Nico. Watch out.

LOL, you making me laugh. You just determined to hate the fall guy. Nico is the fall guy.Just so you know. Luka has to take some blame in this situation because aside from conspiracy theories - being out of shape doing a contract year / after making the finals - doesnt get you a vote of confidence from mgmt. Especially after they just watched you struggle (throughout the whole last season and playoffs) and despite that he chose to play with in the Olympics.... We gotta be fair here. A lot of this falls on Luka.

Yes, you trade 25 years old superstar, who was 5 years in a row in first All Nba team, has scoring title and while struggling brought you in the Finals half year ago, because he's out of shape.

Nico is an idiot. Vast majority people already know that and others will know that really soon.

Btw. He didn't play in Olympics.

I meant to say fiba world cup, i think that was in 2023. I was mistaken. So, if he didnt actually compete in the 2024 olympics, there was no reason for him to be out of shape when this season started. Once again, why is Nico getting blamed for being a fall guy? Shouldnt we be mad at the owners if anything?

[Dirk]

The only 3 people in the world who support this trade are you, Charles Barkley and Kendrick Perkins.

It's enough.

Ownership made this call. I support getting A.Davis back in return. I think under the circumstances Nico had to keep this on the hush (without drawing any attention) and he called someone who he knew would keep quiet (Pelinka) and got the best possible player he could get under the directives of the ownership. It's no surprise that Lebron is getting old and the Lakers want a big name star.

Now, if I was advising ownership, would I advise them to trade Luka? Most likely not. Am I happy we got AD back considering the constraints I believe ownership put Nico under, yes. Do I think this was the best thing to happen to Luka's career? Yes. Even though it sucks for Mav fans - Luka actually wasnt taking his body seriously. Adversity needs to happen to propel you to be better.

Let's stop pretending this was Nico's decision. You don't trade the franchise player without ownership wanting to do it and telling you to do it.

Of course it was his decision. He literally colluded with his Lakers buddy. Or do you think the random new owners who have been in Dallas a minute decided to call up the Lakers guy who happened to be buddies with the Mavs GM...

Do you even attempt to present a logical argument as to why the Mavs didn't check with other teams? Let me guess, you will act as if you genuinely believe that if Luka was on the market, he'd land less than this putrid return?

Even if someone pinpoints every Luka handicap and says he is obese or whatever. His trade value was still galaxies more than what this trade returned. And that is unforgivable. If you are going to make a very strange trade... at least maximise the return. Whether Luka wanted to be here or not is irrelevant. It's not relevant if Luka drinks or eats too much.

It's slightly amusing that the Mavs completed a ridiculous trade and now post-trade some may try to devalue Luka's value, bringing up the tired narratives over weight, etc... when that is immaterial. His trade value was still much higher and what is relevant is that his trade value was far higher than what the Mavs got back. The Mavs didn't maximise the value in what would always be a very "strange" trade no matter the return. There is a reason that hardly anyone believes this trade actually happened... but hey... it's interesting that no matter how crazy something is, there are always some with different perspectives. Maybe some cope mechanism if it comes from a Mavs fan... but it's okay, the world would be boring if everyone thought the same, although in this case, it does appear 99.9% of the NBA world world thinks the same and is just in disbelief over the GM/Owners sabotaging the Mavs/fans.

[Bob8]

LOL, you making me laugh. You just determined to hate the fall guy. Nico is the fall guy.Just so you know. Luka has to take some blame in this situation because aside from conspiracy theories - being out of shape doing a contract year / after making the finals - doesnt get you a vote of confidence from mgmt. Especially after they just watched you struggle (throughout the whole last season and playoffs) and despite that he chose to play with in the Olympics.... We gotta be fair here. A lot of this falls on Luka.

Yes, you trade 25 years old superstar, who was 5 years in a row in first All Nba team, has scoring title and while struggling brought you in the Finals half year ago, because he's out of shape.

Nico is an idiot. Vast majority people already know that and others will know that really soon.

Btw. He didn't play in Olympics.

I meant to say fiba world cup, i think that was in 2023. I was mistaken. So, if he didnt actually compete in the 2024 olympics, there was no reason for him to be out of shape when this season started. Once again, why is Nico getting blamed for being a fall guy? Shouldnt we be mad at the owners if anything?

Didn't you watch his press conference? Watch it and you might understand more. He admitted that it was his idea from the beginning. Pelinka and the owner laughed at him, when he presented it. Owner is clueless about basketball and believes in his GM.

I don't believe in conspiracies, Occam's razor says that the easiest solution is in most cases the right one. In that case, Nico is an idiot, who doesn't understand what he actually did. He will soon enough.

[joesha1698]

The only 3 people in the world who support this trade are you, Charles Barkley and Kendrick Perkins.

It's enough.

Ownership made this call. I support getting A.Davis back in return. I think under the circumstances Nico had to keep this on the hush (without drawing any attention) and he called someone who he knew would keep quiet (Pelinka) and got the best possible player he could get under the directives of the ownership. It's no surprise that Lebron is getting old and the Lakers want a big name star.

Now, if I was advising ownership, would I advise them to trade Luka? Most likely not. Am I happy we got AD back considering the constraints I believe ownership put Nico under, yes. Do I think this was the best thing to happen to Luka's career? Yes. Even though it sucks for Mav fans - Luka actually wasnt taking his body seriously. Adversity needs to happen to propel you to be better.

Let's stop pretending this was Nico's decision. You don't trade the franchise player without ownership wanting to do it and telling you to do it.

Of course it was his decision. He literally colluded with his Lakers buddy. Or do you think the random new owners who have been in Dallas a minute decided to call up the Lakers guy who happened to be buddies with the Mavs GM...

Do you even attempt to present a logical argument as to why the Mavs didn't check with other teams? Let me guess, you will act as if you genuinely believe that if Luka was on the market, he'd land less than this putrid return?

Even if someone pinpoints every Luka handicap and says he is obese or whatever. His trade value was still galaxies more than what this trade returned. And that is unforgivable. If you are going to make a very strange trade... at least maximise the return. Whether Luka wanted to be here or not is irrelevant. It's not relevant if Luka drinks or eats too much.

It's slightly amusing that the Mavs completed a ridiculous trade and now post-trade some may try to devalue Luka's value, bringing up the tired narratives over weight, etc... when that is immaterial. His trade value was still much higher and what is relevant is that his trade value was far higher than what the Mavs got back. The Mavs didn't maximise the value in what would always be a very "strange" trade no matter the return. There is a reason that hardly anyone believes this trade actually happened... but hey... it's interesting that no matter how crazy something is, there are always some with different perspectives. Maybe some cope mechanism if it comes from a Mavs fan... but it's okay, the world would be boring if everyone thought the same, although in this case, it does appear 99.9% of the NBA world world thinks the same and is just in disbelief over the GM/Owners sabotaging the Mavs/fans.

Did i present an argument as to why they didnt check with other teams? Yes, go back and read my other posts. I also said in other posts that I will entertain the possibility that this was the NBA helping the Lakers out or something to do with the owners of the Mavs and their casino situation. I just haven't seen the evidence that supports that. I think it was a directive by the owners to keep it quiet and get it done. Niko went to someone he knows and someone he knows he can trust to get it done on the hush and they both had players who made sense salary wise/ compatibility wise.

The part about a GM having the ability to make a decision like this, i just don't believe it. I think Nico is selling it because thats what he suppose to do. He's suppose to take the heat so his boss doesn't have to. Now, could he have got more draft picks - possibly but if the owners wanted this thing done in quiet and it got out - the agents on both sides could have ruined the deal. Now you have a disgruntled Luka and team...becomes a bigger mess.

[Dirk2Doncic]

The only 3 people in the world who support this trade are you, Charles Barkley and Kendrick Perkins.

It's enough.

Ownership made this call. I support getting A.Davis back in return. I think under the circumstances Nico had to keep this on the hush (without drawing any attention) and he called someone who he knew would keep quiet (Pelinka) and got the best possible player he could get under the directives of the ownership. It's no surprise that Lebron is getting old and the Lakers want a big name star.

Now, if I was advising ownership, would I advise them to trade Luka? Most likely not. Am I happy we got AD back considering the constraints I believe ownership put Nico under, yes. Do I think this was the best thing to happen to Luka's career? Yes. Even though it sucks for Mav fans - Luka actually wasnt taking his body seriously. Adversity needs to happen to propel you to be better.

Let's stop pretending this was Nico's decision. You don't trade the franchise player without ownership wanting to do it and telling you to do it.

Perfectly played.

Dumbest most gut wrenching trade in NBA history including to an entire country with the Nike shoe salesman tone deaf crepe's smiling face on it. Scum of the sports earth.

Dallas Mavericks FO including ownership are Cretans. Not my team any more.

[joesha1698]

Yes, you trade 25 years old superstar, who was 5 years in a row in first All Nba team, has scoring title and while struggling brought you in the Finals half year ago, because he's out of shape.

Nico is an idiot. Vast majority people already know that and others will know that really soon.

Btw. He didn't play in Olympics.

I meant to say fiba world cup, i think that was in 2023. I was mistaken. So, if he didnt actually compete in the 2024 olympics, there was no reason for him to be out of shape when this season started. Once again, why is Nico getting blamed for being a fall guy? Shouldnt we be mad at the owners if anything?

Didn't you watch his press conference? Watch it and you might understand more.

I don't believe in conspiracies, Occam's razor says that the easiest solution is in most cases the right one. In that case, Nico is an idiot, who doesn't understand what he actually did. He will soon enough.

I do not believe he's an idiot. I believe he's covering for ownership. Once again, no GM has the power to trade the franchise player without ownership permission. Let's establish two things:

1. Ownership wanted Luka gone b/c they didnt want to pay him or b/c they didn't trust his commitment and conditioning or both of those things. But it starts with them.

2. They tasked Nico with moving him on the hush without drawing any suspicion while keeping the team competitive. This is speculation on my part but it makes sense considering this was done so secretively. I do not believe Nico hatched this plan on his own. I I believe he was given directives from ownership to move Luka and was working under certain constraints.


Note: I am willing to change my mind,yes. I would have to see proof. What Nico said at the press conference I do not believe because he has a boss. He said what he suppose to say. The fact that he went out the way to say that this was his decision - is more reason to believe it was not. I look forward to someone in ownership answering tough questions when A. Davis is introduced. I wonder if anyone in ownership will even show up.

[Bob8]

I meant to say fiba world cup, i think that was in 2023. I was mistaken. So, if he didnt actually compete in the 2024 olympics, there was no reason for him to be out of shape when this season started. Once again, why is Nico getting blamed for being a fall guy? Shouldnt we be mad at the owners if anything?

Didn't you watch his press conference? Watch it and you might understand more.

I don't believe in conspiracies, Occam's razor says that the easiest solution is in most cases the right one. In that case, Nico is an idiot, who doesn't understand what he actually did. He will soon enough.

I do not believe he's an idiot. I believe he's covering for ownership. Once again, no GM has the power to trade the franchise player without ownership permission. Let's establish two things:

1. Ownership wanted Luka gone b/c they didnt want to pay him or b/c they didn't trust his commitment and conditioning or both of those things. But it starts with them.

2. They tasked Nico with moving him on the hush without drawing any suspicion while keeping the team competitive. This is speculation on my part but it makes sense considering this was done so secretively. I do not believe Nico hatched this plan on his own. I I believe he was given directives from ownership to move Luka and was working under certain constraints.


Note: I am willing to change my mind,yes. I would have to see proof. What Nico said at the press conference I do not believe because he has a boss. He said what he suppose to say. The fact that he went out the way to say that this was his decision - is more reason to believe it was not. I look forward to someone in ownership answering tough questions when A. Davis is introduced. I wonder if anyone in ownership will even show up.

You went from Luka's fault to owner's fault in 1 second. Mavs owner doesn't care or understand about basketball. He has Nico for that and Nico is making decisions. Nico showed his true colours, arrogant idiot.

Conditioning angle doesn't make a sense because they brought older and more injury prone player. Money wise doesn't either, because they had 1 year time to find out, if he's worth paying. No rush whatsoever.

[joesha1698]

The REAL Reason Luka Dončić Was TRADED to the Lakers: One Picture & One Number Changed Everything! This is what one sports commentator believes....he went from 230 to 270lbs +.....5:08 mark.. (speculation) My opinion: If Luka was really 270lbs its very much possible that he was basically daring Dallas to get rid of him. I know no one wants to believe that Luka could have been enticing ownership to get rid of him. Its easier to believe the other narrative despite Luka's own behavior.<<<< just speculation>>>.





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[Bob8]

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[BliscoSantos]

This was all Nico on his own,it was his idea...somebody dug up the Luka quote to ESPN(can't remember when he said it) that Said: "they're trying to get rid of everyone I like"...Mavs got rid of Brunson,Boban, Dodo, Kokoškov, Lindsey, Mosley,all of whom Luka was close to(allegedly)...and there are whispers that Nico was never a fan of Luka...it seems that since the team was strugling he just had the perfect excuse to pull the trigger even though the team played amazing when he was healhy...besides, half the team was injured this year...are they all in terrible condition??...and yes,Luka should have taken his conditioning more seriously,I even agreed he should change the conditioning coach,but I can't understand why the Mavs(Nico) were mad at him for seeking advice when he was injured from specialist that aren't part of Mavs organization...usualy when someone does that(at least in Europe,soccer Players) is because they don't trust the team doctors....and a lot of people were questining the doctors since players kept coming back from injuries only to be injured once again a couple games later... let's not act like teams don't Rush players back too fast when things aren't going good

[41Dirk41]

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[BliscoSantos]

The REAL Reason Luka Dončić Was TRADED to the Lakers: One Picture & One Number Changed Everything! This is what one sports commentator believes....he went from 230 to 270lbs +.....5:08 mark.. (speculation)





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He needed 2 seats on the airplane

They'll give him Ozempic to lose weight and then LeBron will show him the Miami fitnesa program

On a serious note...this might be the kick in the but that he needed to finaly start better caring to his body...if an not in optimal shape Luka can do this,can you imagine what he can do if he actually gets in Best shape... that's the only thing that's stopping him from becoming the Best Player in the world...hope this makes him angry and we finaly get to see what we know he's capable...one can hope

[joesha1698]

This was all Nico on his own,it was his idea...somebody dug up the Luka quote to ESPN(can't remember when he said it) that Said: "they're trying to get rid of everyone I like"...Mavs got rid of Brunson,Boban, Dodo, Kokoškov, Lindsey, Mosley,all of whom Luka was close to(allegedly)...and there are whispers that Nico was never a fan of Luka...it seems that since the team was strugling he just had the perfect excuse to pull the trigger even though the team played amazing when he was healhy...besides, half the team was injured this year...are they all in terrible condition??...and yes,Luka should have taken his conditioning more seriously,I even agreed he should change the conditioning coach,but I can't understand why the Mavs(Nico) were mad at him for seeking advice when he was injured from specialist that aren't part of Mavs organization...usualy when someone does that(at least in Europe,soccer Players) is because they don't trust the team doctors....and a lot of people were questining the doctors since players kept coming back from injuries only to be injured once again a couple games later... let's not act like teams don't Rush players back too fast when things aren't going good

Apparently Luka was using his own trainers and dietitians and still coming to work out of shape. There is speculation by Blake Silverman that the Mavs approached Bucks about Giannis first b4 getting serious with Lakers. Bottom line though, people are letting ownership off the hook. How easy could they have called Mark Cuban (the minority owner that is) and said, hey we're thinking about trading Luka for AD, what do you think?

[BliscoSantos]

This was all Nico on his own,it was his idea...somebody dug up the Luka quote to ESPN(can't remember when he said it) that Said: "they're trying to get rid of everyone I like"...Mavs got rid of Brunson,Boban, Dodo, Kokoškov, Lindsey, Mosley,all of whom Luka was close to(allegedly)...and there are whispers that Nico was never a fan of Luka...it seems that since the team was strugling he just had the perfect excuse to pull the trigger even though the team played amazing when he was healhy...besides, half the team was injured this year...are they all in terrible condition??...and yes,Luka should have taken his conditioning more seriously,I even agreed he should change the conditioning coach,but I can't understand why the Mavs(Nico) were mad at him for seeking advice when he was injured from specialist that aren't part of Mavs organization...usualy when someone does that(at least in Europe,soccer Players) is because they don't trust the team doctors....and a lot of people were questining the doctors since players kept coming back from injuries only to be injured once again a couple games later... let's not act like teams don't Rush players back too fast when things aren't going good

Apparently Luka was using his own trainers and dietitians and still coming to work out of shape. There is speculation by Blake Silverman that the Mavs approached Bucks about Giannis first b4 getting serious with Lakers. Bottom line though, people are letting ownership off the hook. How easy could they have called Mark Cuban (the minority owner that is) and said, hey we're thinking about trading Luka for AD, what do you think?

Again, Nico said they didn't talk to anybody else...and if they did call the Bucks and they said no then why wouldn't the Bucks leak that to the press?? You know what kind of drama they could have created if they said they offered us Luka....teams would start calling the Mavs,it would be insane