Dallas Mavericks' Josh Howard admitted pot use, denied need

[SevereMagic]

You arent a celebrity unless you smoke marijuana... Its barely even a drug anymore.

Yea, at least he's not an Alchoholic! I think Josh is one of the sickest athletes in the NBA... it's his life, let him do want he wants... as long as it doesn't affect his game!!!

BTW - Awesome Sig!

[your_dallas_mavericks]

Yea, at least he's not an Alchoholic! I think Josh is one of the sickest athletes in the NBA... it's his life, let him do want he wants... as long as it doesn't affect his game!!!

I agree he's one of the sickest athletes in the NBA (and yes, I know what you mean and I mean it the same way) but if he's doing it, it affects his whole life including his game.

[SevereMagic]

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I agree he's one of the sickest athletes in the NBA (and yes, I know what you mean and I mean it the same way) but if he's doing it, it affects his whole life including his game.

Tru - being an athlete does take it's toll on the body and smoking anything doesn't help.

[your_dallas_mavericks]

marijuana makes you not care, or at least care less about what you have to do. In time, Bong-Ho will never drive to the hoop, only take jump shots, disappear in the second half of games, and become withdrawn from the media...

Oh wait, he's already there!

[87BlazerMan]

I have lost all respect for Josh Howard and I totally understand how come he disappears in the second half of games. It's such a contrast with a player like Dirk who you can tell does NOT use 'pot' (though he does get snookered from time to time ). This team depends too much on Josh Howard and the fact he's a stoner really scares me.

Would you put your faith and hope into a stoner who was doing anything else for you?

A construction worker?
Someone getting your latte?
A person taking care of your kids?
A safety inspector in a power plant?
A physician?

Then why the f*** would you put your faith in your starting SF to perform correctly?

This is my first time ever on the Mavs board and I don't care much about Josh Howard, however I couldn't pass this thread w/o reading it and I definitely couldn't read yourdm's post without commenting on it. To answer your question, yes, I would trust a "stoner" to build my house, make my latte, watch my kids, inspect my power plant, and perform surgery on my body on two conditions; that they are qualified to do so, and that they aren't high while doing it.

Marijuana use carries a ridiculously unjust stigma with it in this country. Like any drug it can be abused, and abuse of Marijuana does have health consequences down the road, but so does the abuse of Tylenol or any legal drug. But just because someone smokes weed, you can not assume they are abusing it.

I say props to Josh Howard. He is an awesome basketball player and *GASP* he smokes weed. Like he said, if he can not smoke for 8 months out of the year, then he can stop at any time. Clearly he is a smart guy and in control of his own body. I'm sure that there are tons players in the league for whom alcohol is a major problem (during the season), but no one cares because it is legal. I bet there are players who play hungover, or even slightly drunk, and yet you never hear about it. The only reason this is even a news story is because weed is illegal. No one would give a **** if he admitted to smoking cigarettes, even though those would have a much bigger effect on his game.

[JES12]

87BlazerMan
My last room-mate, here in Portland, OR, was a pot-head, but he was one of the most reliable room-mates when it comes to finances. I just can't stand the smell of that ****. I almost left everytime one was lit.

Pot is not physiologically addictive; just psychologically. Because it is illegal (in most cases), it has a negative connotation to it. In all reality, caffeine and nicotine are more addictive than pot.

[from_ro_to_dirk]

well lets hope JHo lights them up tomorrow...the Hornets that is

is it any wonder that perpetually stoned-looking Marquis Daniels was JHo's best friend?


either way, as i said earlier, its just plain dumb to come out and admit doing illegal activities when you are in the spotlight, whether you think weed is good or bad, harmless, etc, its just plain stupid to admit it and make yourself a target.

say he has a terrible series, and this story really gets picked up on by the local media, you're just gonna hear all this **** about him having a weed problem and that's why he sucked etc. remember when the Dirk and Nash bar pics came out? all the dipshits calling Galloway up and saying that is why they lost in the first round etc, too busy partying, don't care about losing blah blah, eventhough it was AFTER the season on their offtime.

i'm just saying, keep illegal **** that could make you and your team look bad private.

[vincecarter4pres]

either way, as i said earlier, its just plain dumb to come out and admit doing illegal activities when you are in the spotlight, whether you think weed is good or bad, harmless, etc, its just plain stupid to admit it and make yourself a target.



i'm just saying, keep illegal **** that could make you and your team look bad private.

I totally disagree.
I think it is a great thing what he is doing.
I used to smoke a lot of pot, but now I rarely do.
I think most peoples' view on pot is so stupid it is not even funny.
When someone like Josh Howard admits to this I think it takes away from the negative stigmas associated with the issue at hand, just by it becoming a water cooler topic.
When ignorant people voice their ignorant, non-researched, completly non-fact based, biased and blind opinions on subjects such as this, it gives the more informed a chance to shut down the lies, whether the informed are pro or con against the situation.
Kinda brings the facts to light instead of this "Reefer Madness" 1940's view of pot.

Would you put your faith and hope into a stoner who was doing anything else for you?

A construction worker?
Someone getting your latte?
A person taking care of your kids?
A safety inspector in a power plant?
A physician?

Sure, why not.
Hell the Latte person could be stoned while they're making my god damn cappucinno, what are they going to do, over froth the milk?

I'll tell you what, I have worked in many the restaraunt, and almost every server, busboy, cook, chef and delivery guy was stoned on the job.
We are talking about some outstanding chefs in expensive restaraunts too.
I knew people that were transporters in hospitals that went to work stoned.
Hell, I don't know if I agree with it, but I know an RN that goes to work stoned all the time and she has yet to make a mistake in 4 years.
I once caught 2 cops in my town blazing up behind a building in their squad car.
And none of these people have caused nearly the trouble that an alcoholic judge has in my area.

These are all true stories.

[vincecarter4pres]

People that are probrably high at work that you interact with and get a service from on a daily basis:
your barber/hair stylist
your waiter/waitress
your cook/chef
your landscaper
your taxi driver/limo driver(you'll be lucky if this guy isn't drinking)
your mailman
your cashier
your your food delivery driver
your car salesman of age 35 or under
your fastfood worker
your local DPW
your garbage man
your computer tech/programmer/engineer
your hospital orderly
guy that owns the comic/baseball card store
mailroom workers
your cable guy
your electrician
your mechanic
your auto electronics installer
your office installer
your moving guys
your secretary
your paralegal
your cleaning person
your gas station attendant
your web designer
your tatoo artist
your OTR truck driver
your accountant(rare)
your favorite actor/musician/director/producer

Should I keep going, or do I have you paranoid yet?

[87BlazerMan]

vincecarter4pres +1

I agree with the fact that JHo being open and honest about this is great. I can't believe the number of uninformed people out there when it comes to marijuana. I'd MUCH rather put weed in my body than alcohol or over the counter drugs (I do/use all three, but I know that weed is by far the best for me). The stigma over marijuana use in this country is just dumb.

You could present straight facts to an intelligent person about why alcohol is unhealthy and dangerous and yet that person would still likely CHOOSE to drink. I have no problem with that.

You could present straight facts to an intelligent person about why weed is not nearly as unhealthy, and yet that person still may CHOOSE not to smoke. I have no problem with that either.

My problem comes when people form judgments about other people for the sole reason that they choose to smoke weed, especially when that person is uneducated about the facts or choose to ignore them completely. your_dallas_mavericks is one of those people. He just has to pass judgments on Josh Howard because he uses weed. J-Ho is the same guy today as he was before his marijuana use was made public, but all of a sudden "your_dallas_mavericks" is "very disappointed" in Josh Howard and no longer trusts him to be the Mavs starting SF. What a joke.

[your_dallas_mavericks]

I give up, I am throwing in the towel, waving the white flag, and lighting up the damn doobie...

[NBAMAN2006]

Haha. This thread is rediclious. My uncle is a successful lobbyist and smokes a joint to and from work every day. He makes about 500K a year. No joke.

[from_ro_to_dirk]

a lot of people are missing the point though..the point is not whether weed is good or bad, whether you can work while on it, etc etc. the point is that it is illegal and you should not be mentioning that you are breaking drug laws, whether you think it is good or not because it may draw unwanted attention and negative views to you and may possibly make you a target.

i used to smoke it all the time back in the day, but im not going to tell my employer that or if i were still doing it. especially when you have a league commissioner who is so overconcerned about his players' image.

Now this is nowhere near the same situation, but look at Michael Irvin. The guy made himself a target and there were investigators/authorities out to get him. You never know what may set one of these guy off to start prying into your business.

Athletes are targets anyways, just stupid to make possibly make yourself a bigger one.

[your_dallas_mavericks]

...the point is that it is illegal and you should not be mentioning that you are breaking drug laws, whether you think it is good or not because it may draw unwanted attention and negative views to you and may possibly make you a target.

Word!

Athletes are targets anyways, just stupid to make possibly make yourself a bigger one.

Word again!

[N.O.R.E.]

marijuana makes you not care, or at least care less about what you have to do.

Hey thats completely unfair. Ganja doesn't make you not care or stop you from doing the things you've got to do, it just makes you realize you have other better things to do

[your_dallas_mavericks]

I have to laugh at that one! Great comeback!

[MaNs1]

[quote="your_dallas_mavericks"][/quote]You dont even know what are you talking about...

[87BlazerMan]

I hear what you guys are saying. Good or bad, it is not very smart for Josh Howard to volunteer information about his illegal habits. I sure wouldn't be happy if one of my Blazers decided to announce that they smoke pot in the summer.

At the same time however, maybe this is a topic that needs to be more out in the open. Its time someone spoke up, and I give mad props to JHo for not being afraid to do it. Coming out about something like smoking weed is extremely risky, especially for a professional athlete. This isn't right. Weed should not be an illegal substance in this day and age. Its like prohibition all over again and it is totally unjust. Josh Howard isn't going to get weed legalized, but for everyone like him who stands up for it, we move a little closer to acceptance as a society.

[from_ro_to_dirk]

That's a shocker, what a complete idiot....

yup, old news. i guess he was on the michael irvin radio show today so now that story is being picked up nationally. let the distractions and trade value come on down.

this is the **** i was talking about last week, on how idiotic it is to admit to doing something illegal. this is what i was trying to point out to the people who were trying to defend josh's use of weed, which to me is a non-issue, its his ADMITTING to doing somethign illegal and against NBA rules which i found stupid.

[Hatertots]

Good for you, Josh Howard. The marijuana prohibition laws in the United States are not only backward and moronic, they're socially and economically damaging and the result of irresponsible legislation. Along with the ironically named Patriot Act, this might be the worst law on the books. I salute Josh Howard for having the courage to say what many others wouldn't have the cajones to say.