Kristaps Porziņģis activated

[Texas Chuck]

Mavs fans I come in peace...Assuming KP is on board long term- isnt it a good thing if he signs the QQ BEEEEcause that will put you in a position to sign a third star? I believe you would have 31 million in cap space (cap projected to be 109mil)

He'd need to sign it right away to lower his cap hold which seems really unlikely. Plus the risk of him leaving. I think Dallas wants to ink him to a long-term deal even if it means forgoing any meaningful cap space. But I think getting off Barnes/Powell is still doable so there could still be a free agency opportunity this summer.

[Imon]

There's lot of talk around Porzingis that is unsubstantiated rumors - including one saying that he is actually further along in his recovery than the Knicks let on and that was one of the sources of tension between him and the front office.

Not sure if this is true or not but Jeff Wade is close to the team ...

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[Context]

Mavs fans I come in peace...Assuming KP is on board long term- isnt it a good thing if he signs the QQ BEEEEcause that will put you in a position to sign a third star? I believe you would have 31 million in cap space (cap projected to be 109mil)

He'd need to sign it right away to lower his cap hold which seems really unlikely. Plus the risk of him leaving. I think Dallas wants to ink him to a long-term deal even if it means forgoing any meaningful cap space. But I think getting off Barnes/Powell is still doable so there could still be a free agency opportunity this summer.

I just think Dirk's influence on KP is being overlooked- I could see Dirk getting KP to buy into the 3rd star plan...Just food for thought...

[kazyv]

all this talk about the QO is nonsense, nothing to do with reality. if it really comes from KP camp, it's about getting the max deal, which is probably getting anyway. noone is walking away from 20 millions + potentially 100 if he gets hurt. this would be Noel on steroids dumb, unprecedented in the NBA

[Paija]

I do not pretend to know what KP is thinking, but I believe that QO was mentioned in the same spirit as AD is saying that he will be only 1yr rental. From what I have been able to piece together, NYK wanted to trade KP to Pelicans and he did not want to go there. So the QO was meant as deterrrent. Apparently Dallas was quite sure that it will be able to convince KP to stay longterm.
I think that KP landed in a pretty good place compared to other possibilities.
I must say that I know nothing about Mavericks, will be exciting to learn. My more than 3 yrs Knicks fandom has prepared me for anything...

[daoneandonly]

We really shouldnt ignore the fact that we gave up 2 first round picks, one of which is unprotected, when you're taking on a guy with a serious injury history, terrible players on bad deals with him, and giving up first rounders, this is not some slam dunk Mavs win deal. Not to mention KP apparently wants to sign the QO and hit unrestricted FA

We could easily be in Brooklyn Nets territory with 3 picks owed in the coming years, such a shortsighted panic move as always for Cuban/Nelson

You were extremely pesimistic about Luka as well and it turned out great for the Mavs so if history is any indication, KP should be a very good aquisition

I think the Mavs will be fine if KP is able to play 65-70 games per year. They need to rest him from time to time to keep his body fresh and ready for the PO. First rounders will be in the 20s and if the Mavs are trying to be good, those picks will not mean much.

And KP will not sign QO, he would be crazy to do that.

Oh im admittedly naturally pessimistic. In this case though, its more justified. KP has had 4 years to show hes not an injury concern unlike all the guys his height & taller that came before him, he's failed that test thus far

I was fine with the trade prior to the revelation of the 2 picks. You dont take on horrible money, give up 2 Frp for an injury plagued guy whos up for a new contract, its foolish. The picks kill it

[Absinthe]

ACL injuries can happen to anyone. Ask Dennis Smith Jr. about them. It was one of the biggest concerns about him in the draft.

[SOUNDCHASER]

Limited minutes are cool but he needs to be closely monitored by doctors every game and we need an enforcer type to protect him so nobody plays dirty and tries to hurt our stars.

[fuller4379]

Limited minutes are cool but he needs to be closely monitored by doctors every game and we need an enforcer type to protect him so nobody plays dirty and tries to hurt our stars.

We have an enforcer in Salah.

[arkuo]

This is a good situation for Kristaps. We have one of the top trainers and medical staff on payroll. Casey Smith is also with Team USA. We have our Euro roots firmly planted. KP will barely adjust to anything but the weather which is great. Just focus on getting healthy and better. He's 23, Luka is 19. Sure we're swinging for the fences here but its not like we're not hoping for a home run with DSJ too. We're good.

[arkuo]

Limited minutes are cool but he needs to be closely monitored by doctors every game and we need an enforcer type to protect him so nobody plays dirty and tries to hurt our stars.

We have an enforcer in Salah.

We need to sign Randle to play the Draymond Green role and do the dirty work in the paint.

[arkuo]

People talking about how KP wouldnt last in the league because people of his height tend to have short careers and stats say there's no precedent. LMAO. You talk as if this is Shawn Bradley and it's 1992. KP is just an inch taller than Rudy Gobert. Relax. LOL

[agentofatlas]

KP will have a healthier career if he plays the 5 imo. Having him defend in space is just asking his knees to react in speeds his body wouldn't be able to handle. Also he should reign in the isos.

[ozwizard8]

If Porzingis can play towards the end of the season I want him to play. He can get back into the groove of playing NBA-level basketball and gain some experience playing with Luka.
No point in tanking - I'd rather the Mavs just convey their first to the Hawks this season. Instead of saying we have a 10% chance of a top-5 pick it's better to look at it as the Mavs having a 90% chance of NOT getting a top-5 pick. There's no reason to suck then end up giving the Hawks the 6th pick.
The Mavs owe 3 first round picks for the next 5 years - just convey them when the time comes. At some point the protections come off and the Mavs could end up sending a totally unprotected pick later. I'm sure Donnie is banking on the Mavs being good in the next 3-4 years which is why he gave the Knicks 2 first-rounders.

I think this trade comes with more risk than some Mavs fans are letting on - I'm seeing most Mavs fans being elated by this move.
I'm being cautiously optimistic about this. The Mavs are counting on significant internal development from Luka and Porzingis in order to become a playoff team. Luka is the best rookie the Mavs have ever had and looks to be a pretty solid bet as a perennial all-star.
It's Porzingis I'm worried about - tall guys with knee/foot problems almost never turn out well. He played 72 games his rookie season, 66 his sophomore, and 48 in his third before tearing his ACL. The number of games he has played has trended downwards - not a good sign. I really, really hope that he is more Embiid and less Oden when it comes to injuries early in his career otherwise the Mavs are screwed like when the Nets traded every asset they had for the corpse of Paul Pierce and KG.

-72 to 66 is a trend?
Yes he tore his ACL and thats the reason of 48 games. He also played for his national team that season so maybe if you count those games its not a trend? Anyway, I dont think this is a trend or such.
For any big man 72-66 are fine numbers.
I just checked A.Davis. He played 65 games on avg for his first 4 seasons. Then 75 for last 2 seasons.

-Injurn concern is there but I dont think he was injury prone. Also one good thing is he actually doesnt rely on his athleticism like Amare did. After ACL some of explosive players lose a step or inch in vertical and they lose their elite skill. KP is crazy tall and he has moves like Dirk-lite. His rim protection is mostly due to his height and standing reach too.

-Mavs dont need to rely on Doncic-KP development.
2020 FA there will be max slot and more.
In general if your prospects turns out bad you cant win title. Or MAvs can only sign guys like H.Barnes that wouldnt be good too.
If you want to get a title you need take those chances. But on average those 2 and some FA's should make Mavs top 4 teams in East for many seasons.

-Owing 1st round picks
All of them are protected.
Mavs organization is good and Carlisle is one of the greatest coaches out there. Mavs were able to win good amount of games even making playoffs with **** roster.
So with Luka-Carlisle I cant see this team tanking. They'd easily win 30 games at least for any given season.

It must be a dream coming true for Cuban.
Somehow a basketball player spawns up. He is almost skilled as Dirk. And he is a better fit for modern basketball.(rim protection, extra height)
And you get this guy when you're franchise player is retiring. AMAZING REPLACEMENT.

Its like getting Kobe when Michael announce retirement. Or Miami getting Donovan Mitchell in Wade farewell season.
It should be really nice for any Mavs fans. Add Doncic on top of that.

If those two stay healthy, they'll be much better than Nash-Dirk duo.

[ozwizard8]

KP will have a healthier career if he plays the 5 imo. Having him defend in space is just asking his knees to react in speeds his body wouldn't be able to handle. Also he should reign in the isos.

After a heavy summer with national team, he started the season amazingly.
He was playing like a MVP candidate.
He was lifting all the load of the Knicks.

Now he wont need to carry all the load. He'll even have a legit PG so he probably wont even need much scoring with dribble.
Carlisle takes care of his players in terms of exhaustion too. Rotation wise I think he's one of the best out there.

Also ACL injuries and recovery was generally bad if you go back 10-20 years.
Now players usually recovers almost %100.

Also back in the day, players were fighting in the inside with each other. There isnt that level of contact, post play like it used to.
So being tall and thin might be a good thing now.

[burek3]

ACL injuries can happen to anyone. Ask Dennis Smith Jr. about them. It was one of the biggest concerns about him in the draft.

Yeah, but the guy was born with two sets of ACLs

[Bob8]

We really shouldnt ignore the fact that we gave up 2 first round picks, one of which is unprotected, when you're taking on a guy with a serious injury history, terrible players on bad deals with him, and giving up first rounders, this is not some slam dunk Mavs win deal. Not to mention KP apparently wants to sign the QO and hit unrestricted FA

We could easily be in Brooklyn Nets territory with 3 picks owed in the coming years, such a shortsighted panic move as always for Cuban/Nelson

You were extremely pesimistic about Luka as well and it turned out great for the Mavs so if history is any indication, KP should be a very good aquisition

I think the Mavs will be fine if KP is able to play 65-70 games per year. They need to rest him from time to time to keep his body fresh and ready for the PO. First rounders will be in the 20s and if the Mavs are trying to be good, those picks will not mean much.

And KP will not sign QO, he would be crazy to do that.

Oh im admittedly naturally pessimistic. In this case though, its more justified. KP has had 4 years to show hes not an injury concern unlike all the guys his height & taller that came before him, he's failed that test thus far

I was fine with the trade prior to the revelation of the 2 picks. You dont take on horrible money, give up 2 Frp for an injury plagued guy whos up for a new contract, its foolish. The picks kill it

You have to take some risk. DSJ was on a way out anyway. 2 years ago Dallas had nothing. Now it has 2 potential young superstars. With some luck, they can get another top4 pick this year. If that happens all 3 picks they gave away will be around 20th position. And don’t forget all 3 players they got with KP are very serviceable. You won’t ever make championships team playing safe. If KP didn’t injure himself, he for sure wouldn’t cost only DSJ and 2 future first. Dallas saw opportunity and took it. Great work.

[dirkforpres]

You were extremely pesimistic about Luka as well and it turned out great for the Mavs so if history is any indication, KP should be a very good aquisition

I think the Mavs will be fine if KP is able to play 65-70 games per year. They need to rest him from time to time to keep his body fresh and ready for the PO. First rounders will be in the 20s and if the Mavs are trying to be good, those picks will not mean much.

And KP will not sign QO, he would be crazy to do that.

Oh im admittedly naturally pessimistic. In this case though, its more justified. KP has had 4 years to show hes not an injury concern unlike all the guys his height & taller that came before him, he's failed that test thus far

I was fine with the trade prior to the revelation of the 2 picks. You dont take on horrible money, give up 2 Frp for an injury plagued guy whos up for a new contract, its foolish. The picks kill it

You have to take some risk. DSJ was on a way out anyway. 2 years ago Dallas had nothing. Now it has 2 potential young superstars. With some luck, they can get another top4 pick this year. If that happens all 3 picks they gave away will be around 20th position. And don’t forget all 3 players they got with KP are very serviceable. You won’t ever make championships team playing safe. If KP didn’t injure himself, he for sure wouldn’t cost only DSJ and 2 future first. Dallas saw opportunity and took it. Great work.

No way we get a top 4 pick without some incredible lottery luck. It’s projected 11th at the moment and that’s without teams blatantly tanking. Mavs will likely finish with around 35 wins and give up the 12th pick or so to the Hawks. My only hope is that we can dump Harrison Barnes by the trade deadline and maybe clear some space to pursue a guy like Durant or Kawhi in the off-season (I know how unlikely it is, but I still want to see them try)

[juanc]

We really shouldnt ignore the fact that we gave up 2 first round picks, one of which is unprotected, when you're taking on a guy with a serious injury history, terrible players on bad deals with him, and giving up first rounders, this is not some slam dunk Mavs win deal. Not to mention KP apparently wants to sign the QO and hit unrestricted FA

We could easily be in Brooklyn Nets territory with 3 picks owed in the coming years, such a shortsighted panic move as always for Cuban/Nelson

You were extremely pesimistic about Luka as well and it turned out great for the Mavs so if history is any indication, KP should be a very good aquisition

I think the Mavs will be fine if KP is able to play 65-70 games per year. They need to rest him from time to time to keep his body fresh and ready for the PO. First rounders will be in the 20s and if the Mavs are trying to be good, those picks will not mean much.

And KP will not sign QO, he would be crazy to do that.

Oh im admittedly naturally pessimistic. In this case though, its more justified. KP has had 4 years to show hes not an injury concern unlike all the guys his height & taller that came before him, he's failed that test thus far

I was fine with the trade prior to the revelation of the 2 picks. You dont take on horrible money, give up 2 Frp for an injury plagued guy whos up for a new contract, its foolish. The picks kill it

I have a strong feeling that you are more wrong about this than you were about Doncic
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[Bob8]

Oh im admittedly naturally pessimistic. In this case though, its more justified. KP has had 4 years to show hes not an injury concern unlike all the guys his height & taller that came before him, he's failed that test thus far

I was fine with the trade prior to the revelation of the 2 picks. You dont take on horrible money, give up 2 Frp for an injury plagued guy whos up for a new contract, its foolish. The picks kill it

You have to take some risk. DSJ was on a way out anyway. 2 years ago Dallas had nothing. Now it has 2 potential young superstars. With some luck, they can get another top4 pick this year. If that happens all 3 picks they gave away will be around 20th position. And don’t forget all 3 players they got with KP are very serviceable. You won’t ever make championships team playing safe. If KP didn’t injure himself, he for sure wouldn’t cost only DSJ and 2 future first. Dallas saw opportunity and took it. Great work.

No way we get a top 4 pick without some incredible lottery luck. It’s projected 11th at the moment and that’s without teams blatantly tanking. Mavs will likely finish with around 35 wins and give up the 12th pick or so to the Hawks. My only hope is that we can dump Harrison Barnes by the trade deadline and maybe clear some space to pursue a guy like Durant or Kawhi in the off-season (I know how unlikely it is, but I still want to see them try)

If they finish bottom 7, they have 32% for top4 pick. Not great odds but not that bad either. Playing without real C, KP won’t play, and some mild tanking should put them there.