Trade Discussion 22/23

[dirkforpres]

Mavs may need to address frontcourt specifically in free agency. If WCS is opting out, KP is delayed returning, and Powell is rusty, looking for an athletic big man may be on the horizon.

He's not all that athletic, but WIlly Hermangomez was Luka's close friend in Real madrid as well as KP's in NY. Could be had for cheap and make our 2 stars a little happier.

He’s someone I thought they would target last trade deadline for that reason. I think getting Willy cheap and then trading Hardaway for Hield + Bjelica would make for a perfect offseason

[arkuo]

Yea ended up being a great night for the Mavs. Hopefully they dont flush it down the toilet with a Gallo S&T. Stay this course. The only potnetial move that should be considered now is trading Powell if anyone wants him.

Maybe a Toronto homecoming for Dwight? Ibaka seems like he's on his way out of Canada. And Marc Gasol might just retire from the NBA.

Maybe a 3 team trade?
Dwight and a future 2nd to Toronto for Norman Powell
Norman Powell to New Orleans for a S&T Derrick Favors.
Derrick Favors to Dallas

[arkuo]

Mavs may need to address frontcourt specifically in free agency. If WCS is opting out, KP is delayed returning, and Powell is rusty, looking for an athletic big man may be on the horizon.

He's not all that athletic, but WIlly Hermangomez was Luka's close friend in Real madrid as well as KP's in NY. Could be had for cheap and make our 2 stars a little happier.

He’s someone I thought they would target last trade deadline for that reason. I think getting Willy cheap and then trading Hardaway for Hield + Bjelica would make for a perfect offseason

I think Cuban is still on that 2021 bandwagon. Keeping THJ and getting Richardson who has a Player Option in 2021 leaves that angle open for whoever it may be.

[Darren]

C - KP / Kleber / Boban
PF - DFS / Bey / Powell
SF - J-Rich / Green / Broekhoff?
SG - TH / Terry / Wright
PG - Doncic / Barea? / Brunson

The Mavs has already reached out to Barea. So I believe Barea is a lock to come back. The next bold move maybe signing Tacko Fall to 2-wayed contract and be activated while KP sidelined. I think Jackson is on the way out if the Mavs find someone appealing. To me, getting Broekhoff back with vet min is no brainer. I think all four newcomers will contribute coming season in a big way. The only issue is what the Mavs do if Hardaway opts out. Surely, I won't retain Hardaway given the result of the draft night. I want a Jerant Grant or Fred Van Vleet via FA. If both are intrigued by teaming in Dallas. I'm opened to a Kleber trade because of age mostly. Technically, GSW can absorb both Kleber and Wright with 17M TE from Iggy trade.

C - KP / Powell / Boban / Fall?
PF - Grant / Bey / Broekhoff?
SF - Doncic / DFS
SG - J-Rich / Terry / Green
PG - FVV / Barea? / Brunson

I think this is truefully title contender for years to come. But the Mavs should make sure that KP can actually play. The Mavs might push a Brunson-Bamba trade by deadline. I expect the Mavs to reach out to Broekhoff and perhaps Burke pretty soon.

[deb]

The mavs now have a glut of 6'5-6'6 guards on the roster in THJ, Richardaon, Green and Wright. They also haven't really adressed this team's greatest need, and that's big wing defenders. Unless they are sure Bey is the answer, which I doubt, seeing as he's a second round rookie. Considering Luka is the playmaker, they can play two of those guards with him, but who will then guard the LBJs and the Kawhis. Also, with WCS optung out, they will need another big. Hopefully, additional trades/signings are incoming...

[Darren]

I guess the Mavs may pursuits either Ibaka for 1-year deal (MLE) or Grant for multi-year deal depending on Hardaway's status. Technically, the Mavs could bring in FVV and Ibaka if Hardaway opts out.

The most bizarre international lineup may form pretty soon.

[Heezzi]

The mavs now have a glut of 6'5-6'6 guards on the roster in THJ, Richardaon, Green and Wright. They also haven't really adressed this team's greatest need, and that's big wing defenders. Unless they are sure Bey is the answer, which I doubt, seeing as he's a second round rookie. Considering Luka is the playmaker, they can play two of those guards with him, but who will then guard the LBJs and the Kawhis. Also, with WCS optung out, they will need another big. Hopefully, additional trades/signings are incoming...

We needed to draft Saddiq Bey. Now we have no 3pt shooters with Curry trade, and two Wright type players.

[arkuo]

Speaking of Australian Mavs fans, wonder what DunleavyJr is up to these days? Or Aussie Mavs from the early 200s posters here.

[JJP]

We needed to draft Saddiq Bey. Now we have no 3pt shooters with Curry trade, and two Wright type players.

You drafted one of the best 3-point shooters in college. One that shot almost 7 a game and made over 40%. He shoots 89% at the FT line.

Furthermore, Green and Richardson both average over 35% from three.

[dirkules_41]

We needed to draft Saddiq Bey. Now we have no 3pt shooters with Curry trade, and two Wright type players.

You drafted one of the best 3-point shooters in college. One that shot almost 7 a game and made over 40%. He shoots 89% at the FT line.

Furthermore, Green and Richardson both average over 35% from three.

This. Added more 3pt shooting than we lost. Bey is also a good 3pt shooter.

[Mr B]

The team needs a big man bad. The rotation of Maxi/Powell/Boban with KP out isn't gonna cut it.

Agreed, we better get WCS back and even then I think more help is needed.

They have until 4:00 today to opt in or opt out.


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[Mr B]

The team needs a big man bad. The rotation of Maxi/Powell/Boban with KP out isn't gonna cut it.

One of Galinari, Milsap or even Jermai Grant needs to land in Dallas by Monday next week.

I'm with you on that one arkuo Maxi looked pretty bad in the playoffs and I like Maxi he is a nice rotation player off the bench I would take any of the three you mentioned with Grant being my best choice.

What about Bogdonovic? He or Gallinari are the only two I would consider a 3rd star. I wouldn’t put Milsap or Grant in that category. I think they do a sign and trade for either Bogdon or Gallinari and then use the MLE on a guy like Grant, Crowder, or Harrell.


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[Mr B]

Hate this move.

Curry was a perfect fit with this roster and had a fantastic contract. Richardson flatters to deceive, when you get into the numbers on him, he really is not impactful at all, I used to quite like him but when you dig into it he just doesn't impact the game.

I think overall it's a +.

Curry's floor spacing will be easily replaced by Terry

Who is Terry? Is he an all time great NBA 3pt shooter as well? Have you even watched Mavs bench unit last season? Curry absolutely carried some of the games for Mavs with his ability to score from anywhere on the floor. He gave Mavs another veteran presence and has fit perfectly in RC system.

The ONLY player i was afraid that Mavs would trade was actually traded. Such a stupid move, unless Josh manages to transform himself into Shawn Marion, this was just a huge gift to Philly who is also a title contender.

Curry was good last season and the Mavs will miss his shooting however let’s not act like Curry was freaking Labron James or anything. Curry is streaky, can’t play defense, and was hurt a lot, not to mention is on the wrong side of 30 now. He’s at his peak value right now and the Mavs cashed in for a better overall player (not to mention also getting a young prospect).


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[Mr B]

Who is Terry? Is he an all time great NBA 3pt shooter as well? Have you even watched Mavs bench unit last season? Curry absolutely carried some of the games for Mavs with his ability to score from anywhere on the floor. He gave Mavs another veteran presence and has fit perfectly in RC system.

The ONLY player i was afraid that Mavs would trade was actually traded. Such a stupid move, unless Josh manages to transform himself into Shawn Marion, this was just a huge gift to Philly who is also a title contender.

The Mavs are in a tough spot. They stick with a Curry-Doncic backcourt, they will get toasted in the playoffs by Kawhi or Lebron. You need more bodies that are 6'6 to 6'8 to throw at Lebron, Kawhi, PG in the playoffs. if you only have DFS and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist guarding those, then you're not getting far.

With the Curry trade, you get two more bodies and 12 more fouls to give between Richardson and Bey. Both 6'6 and 6'7 respectively.

I don't mind trading for Jrich, don't get me wrong, i like him BUT for Curry? I wish they could have made it work with another player. Someone like Wright who is literally one of the most expendable guys on this team, just simply doesn't fit as we thought he would.

I think Wright is getting traded this weekend in a package deal (or 3 team deal) for Gallinari.


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[Mr B]

Two things here. We didn't trade Curry for Richardson. We traded Curry for Richardson and Tyler Bey.

Second thing. Tyler Terry was almost certainly a first-round draft pick. His weight (and the shortened season) kept him from getting into the first round. Terry is a skilled playmaker, and even averaged over 4 rebounds a game at 6'2".

I think if they were able to play March Madness, Tyler Terry would have shown enough in the tournament to get himself into the lottery. And people talk about his size but he basically the same size as Curry. He does need to put on about 15 pounds of muscle though.


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[Mr B]

Yea ended up being a great night for the Mavs. Hopefully they dont flush it down the toilet with a Gallo S&T. Stay this course. The only potnetial move that should be considered now is trading Powell if anyone wants him.

I’m ok with trading for Gallo (I would prefer Brogdon) as long as they can dump two of Wright, Powell, or Jackson.


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[Archx]

I think overall it's a +.

Curry's floor spacing will be easily replaced by Terry

Who is Terry? Is he an all time great NBA 3pt shooter as well? Have you even watched Mavs bench unit last season? Curry absolutely carried some of the games for Mavs with his ability to score from anywhere on the floor. He gave Mavs another veteran presence and has fit perfectly in RC system.

The ONLY player i was afraid that Mavs would trade was actually traded. Such a stupid move, unless Josh manages to transform himself into Shawn Marion, this was just a huge gift to Philly who is also a title contender.

Curry was good last season and the Mavs will miss his shooting however let’s not act like Curry was freaking Labron James or anything. Curry is streaky, can’t play defense, and was hurt a lot, not to mention is on the wrong side of 30 now. He’s at his peak value right now and the Mavs cashed in for a better overall player (not to mention also getting a young prospect).


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Hopefully it turns out good. I generally don't trust 2nd round rookies to be anything special. Obviously there are exceptions but we'll see. Curry brought a much needed shooting to this team and a spark from the bench. I'm gonna miss him. If FO feels like they strengthened guard positions, they should go after Ibaka or Grant in my opinion. I don't think that they would really need Gallo at this point. And Bogdan is probably out of the play as well.

[Mr B]

The mavs now have a glut of 6'5-6'6 guards on the roster in THJ, Richardaon, Green and Wright. They also haven't really adressed this team's greatest need, and that's big wing defenders. Unless they are sure Bey is the answer, which I doubt, seeing as he's a second round rookie. Considering Luka is the playmaker, they can play two of those guards with him, but who will then guard the LBJs and the Kawhis. Also, with WCS optung out, they will need another big. Hopefully, additional trades/signings are incoming...

They do have a glut of big guards now but I think we can say goodbye to Barea, Jackson, MKG, Cleveland, Lee, and possibly Burke.

Donnie Nelson said last night that they are not done. I think they have a big trade coming (Gallo or Brogdon) and then still have the MLE to use. I would like to see them use the MLE on either Crowder, Grant, or Harrell.


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[deb]

We needed to draft Saddiq Bey. Now we have no 3pt shooters with Curry trade, and two Wright type players.

You drafted one of the best 3-point shooters in college. One that shot almost 7 a game and made over 40%. He shoots 89% at the FT line.

Furthermore, Green and Richardson both average over 35% from three.

This. Added more 3pt shooting than we lost. Bey is also a good 3pt shooter.

No, Tyler Bey isn't. He barely shoots from distance. His % last season was great, but he only hit 13 3pt shots in the entire season. Over his 3 years of college he only attempted 59 threes. His ft% is decent and hopefully he turns into a solid outside shooter eventually, but it's a work in progess at the moment I'm afraid.

[Mr B]

The mavs now have a glut of 6'5-6'6 guards on the roster in THJ, Richardaon, Green and Wright. They also haven't really adressed this team's greatest need, and that's big wing defenders. Unless they are sure Bey is the answer, which I doubt, seeing as he's a second round rookie. Considering Luka is the playmaker, they can play two of those guards with him, but who will then guard the LBJs and the Kawhis. Also, with WCS optung out, they will need another big. Hopefully, additional trades/signings are incoming...

We needed to draft Saddiq Bey. Now we have no 3pt shooters with Curry trade, and two Wright type players.

Yea they do. THJ, Richardson, Luka, KP, Terry are all very capable 3 point shooters.


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