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Post#221 » by dirkules_41 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 10:54 am

https://theathletic.com/4158540/2023/02/05/kyrie-irving-mavericks-luka-doncic/

The team’s future, with Irving becoming an unrestricted free agent this summer, must be addressed with a looming decision whether to re-sign him. In the wake of this trade, league sources believe the Mavericks wouldn’t have traded two starters for Irving if they didn’t have plans to re-sign him this summer. He’s eligible for a two-year, $83 million extension with the team up until July 30, or a four-year, $198.5 million deal this summer.
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Post#222 » by arkuo » Mon Feb 6, 2023 11:03 am

dirkules_41 wrote:https://theathletic.com/4158540/2023/02/05/kyrie-irving-mavericks-luka-doncic/

The team’s future, with Irving becoming an unrestricted free agent this summer, must be addressed with a looming decision whether to re-sign him. In the wake of this trade, league sources believe the Mavericks wouldn’t have traded two starters for Irving if they didn’t have plans to re-sign him this summer. He’s eligible for a two-year, $83 million extension with the team up until July 30, or a four-year, $198.5 million deal this summer.



Cuban would gladly pay that $200M from all the dollars he saved from those one year vets he sold to Dirk for 10 years.

Cuban is also planning to build a huge destination resort casino in Dallas by having partners in Vegas and Macau. He pins down Kyrie and Luka, he has an attractive basketball team to showcase to his resort goers and casino clients. That Kyrie Irvin contract will pay for itself once Cuban opens that casino. That man is not even worried and is smiling right now. I guarantee it.
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Post#223 » by Apz » Mon Feb 6, 2023 11:10 am

Dont worry, be happy :)
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Post#224 » by dirkules_41 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 11:11 am

Apz wrote:Dont worry, be happy :)

Exacltly. All beyond our control here. We did make our voices heard though and they finally did something :lol:
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Post#225 » by arkuo » Mon Feb 6, 2023 11:18 am

For all the fellas here worried about that 2029 first round pick, to put it in perspective, you are worried about a draft pick that is like in 8th grade right now. You're losing sleep for an 8th grader LOL
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Post#226 » by Bob8 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 11:26 am

They needed to do something and they did it. We will see how it works, but at least we will see something new. I hope they get some D before trade line.
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Post#227 » by arkuo » Mon Feb 6, 2023 11:31 am

We always say don't put the cart before the horse.

Now the Mavs have two horses nailed down. Now it's time to buy the cart.

Knicks are a classic example of putting the cart ahead. Now they have maxxed out Brunson, Barret, Randle and have Fournier and Mitchell Robinson eating up the remaining cap space. With no space left for a difference maker. Mavs have been doing that for years by paying guys like DFS, Powell, Kleber and THJ. Today was a move in the opposite direction. We will see how this pans out for Nico Harrison. the ESPN guys were saying that Nico was brought in and paid to do these things and he actually pulled the trigger on one.
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Post#228 » by f l u r p » Mon Feb 6, 2023 11:39 am

Teffer10 wrote:
dirkules_41 wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:Questionable????
There is no question the dude is a complete nutcase and a huge wrecking ball.

You can't win with Durant and Harden, there is something seriously wrong you.
This is not the right person to pair with a young superstar, and I can't believe Mavs fans are drinking the kool aid thinking he's going to be inspiring and do something positive for this team.

Let's only hope that Nico can salvage this mess he has created and parlay him into useful assets in the off season.

Harden hasn't won a single thing in his life so far and Kyrie did play a massive role in Lebrons 2016 CLE title. So not sure I'm following that logic.

I also haven't seen anyone here "drinking the kool aid and thinking he's going to be inspiring" - nobody is asking for that. But we traded a good player, an average player from a historically bad lineup and a pick 6 years away for a perennial All-NBA level player. Even if he comes with a straight jacket this is worth a roll of the dice.

OMG...there are only about 3 of us on this board who are NOT drinking the kool aid. Nearly everyone else sees this guy as the knight in shining armor coming in to save the season and completely ignoring the negatives that are most likely going to happen.

This dude has been a complete team cancer everywhere he has been and people on here think he'll do a complete 180 on a team that he didn't even want to play for.

Teffer - there is another set of posters here who aren’t in either camp.

I think Kyrie is a pos *but* I am not naive enough to think that Luka is Dirk 2.0 and will happily flush the next 15 years “trusting” that Cuban will deliver.

If you want Luka to sign another extension, this is how you have at least a *shot* at it.

Take a look at the top 10-15 players in the league and tell me how we get *any* of those guys and I’ll happily agree that Kyrie is a disastrous choice.

If you are willing to give up in two years and go for a complete rebuild while we watch Luka go someplace else and win multiple titles, well, I guess we can soothe ourselves by building a team with nice guy, great teammate, roleplayers and just accept what comes with that.

Again, I hate Kyrie. I just can’t hate on the Mavs for taking a chance because the alternative is a decade of suck.
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Post#229 » by Bob8 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 11:43 am

We have to understand that we could get Kyrie only because he's problematic. His value was fair and worth to gamble, but we all know it's gambling nevertheless.
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Post#230 » by arkuo » Mon Feb 6, 2023 11:53 am

Bob8 wrote:We have to understand that we could get Kyrie only because he's problematic. His value was fair and worth to gamble, but we all know it's gambling nevertheless.



Risk is an overblown narrative thrown around by the media. Cuban spends close to $200M a year maintaining the team. That comes with player salaries, private planes, facilities, employees etc. Kyrie's money that the other people are afraid to pay is already accounted for. So instead of giving that $36M to guys like Powell and THJ every year, just give it to Kyrie and see if it makes a difference. That money is spent anyway. People worried about a billionaire spending on a team like that money is going to feed Africa or something. That money has been accounted for from the start of the year. It's already spent.

Risk tolerance varies from person to person. A youtube vlogger highlights Mavs' risk while earning minimum wage is very different from Cuban's tolerance. That $197M contract of Kyrie will pay for itself when Cuban opens his casino.
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Post#231 » by daoneandonly » Mon Feb 6, 2023 11:59 am

Teffer10 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
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Tatum would be my wish, but having Irving here kills that


Tatum???? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Are you serious? Boston is a real contender, no way he will have signed with us and no way Boston trade him for that package.
Stop cry, you called yourself a "Real Mavs fan" so support the team! They make a push for a real superstar finally :wink:

You might think all of us should be jubilant, but some of us wouldn't do cartwheels and backflips after receiving the news of having cancer.

Leopards don't change their spots so why would anyone be so naive to think this nucklehead will ever become anything other than what he has been.


Teff, don't waste your time reasoning with someone who can't read basic English. We were clearly talking about what we can get for Luka when he demands a trade, yet this 41 guy thinks we're talking about something else
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Post#232 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 12:02 pm

Bob8 wrote:We have to understand that we could get Kyrie only because he's problematic. His value was fair and worth to gamble, but we all know it's gambling nevertheless.


This.

I'm still waiting to read which others superstar we could take with this package :thinking:
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Post#233 » by arkuo » Mon Feb 6, 2023 12:03 pm

I just think this risk thing that is being thrown around right now is overblown. Sixers signed Joel Embiid to a full max despite having knee issues before. Lakers signed AD to a full max despite being made of glass. Both guys have not played 82 games a year. But sure, the Mavs get a lot of ESPN flack for supposedly doing the unthinkable and offering Kyrie a max despite the risks of him not playing 82 games a year. Surely the Mavs are out of their mind. LMAO.
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Post#234 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 12:03 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
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Tatum???? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Are you serious? Boston is a real contender, no way he will have signed with us and no way Boston trade him for that package.
Stop cry, you called yourself a "Real Mavs fan" so support the team! They make a push for a real superstar finally :wink:

You might think all of us should be jubilant, but some of us wouldn't do cartwheels and backflips after receiving the news of having cancer.

Leopards don't change their spots so why would anyone be so naive to think this nucklehead will ever become anything other than what he has been.


Teff, don't waste your time reasoning with someone who can't read basic English. We were clearly talking about what we can get for Luka when he demands a trade, yet this 41 guy thinks we're talking about something else


So you read my posts :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes, i wrong but thinking about Luka future trade is just... Moron :lol:
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Post#235 » by Bob8 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 12:06 pm

arkuo wrote:
Bob8 wrote:We have to understand that we could get Kyrie only because he's problematic. His value was fair and worth to gamble, but we all know it's gambling nevertheless.



Risk is an overblown narrative thrown around by the media. Cuban spends close to $200M a year maintaining the team. That comes with player salaries, private planes, facilities, employees etc. Kyrie's money that the other people are afraid to pay is already accounted for. So instead of giving that $36M to guys like Powell and THJ every year, just give it to Kyrie and see if it makes a difference. That money is spent anyway. People worried about a billionaire spending on a team like that money is going to feed Africa or something. That money has been accounted for from the start of the year. It's already spent.

Risk tolerance varies from person to person. A youtube vlogger highlights Mavs' risk while earning minimum wage is very different from Cuban's tolerance. That $197M contract of Kyrie will pay for itself when Cuban opens his casino.


I'm not talking about the money, but what to do, if you give Kyrie a longterm contract and it doesn't work out? It's a gamble and like I said, in situation Mavs are, a gamble worth taking.
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Post#236 » by arkuo » Mon Feb 6, 2023 12:09 pm

Anyone else noticed that an ever active in social media Luka Doncic is pretty quiet about the trade when the whole NBA has already commented on Twitter Facebook and Instagram? Luka knows what's up. FO is probably cooking up one more move prior to Thursday.
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Post#237 » by dirkules_41 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 12:16 pm

Bob8 wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Bob8 wrote:We have to understand that we could get Kyrie only because he's problematic. His value was fair and worth to gamble, but we all know it's gambling nevertheless.



Risk is an overblown narrative thrown around by the media. Cuban spends close to $200M a year maintaining the team. That comes with player salaries, private planes, facilities, employees etc. Kyrie's money that the other people are afraid to pay is already accounted for. So instead of giving that $36M to guys like Powell and THJ every year, just give it to Kyrie and see if it makes a difference. That money is spent anyway. People worried about a billionaire spending on a team like that money is going to feed Africa or something. That money has been accounted for from the start of the year. It's already spent.

Risk tolerance varies from person to person. A youtube vlogger highlights Mavs' risk while earning minimum wage is very different from Cuban's tolerance. That $197M contract of Kyrie will pay for itself when Cuban opens his casino.


I'm not talking about the money, but what to do, if you give Kyrie a longterm contract and it doesn't work out? It's a gamble and like I said, in situation Mavs are, a gamble worth taking.

You trade him again, as we've just seen his insane on court abilities will always find a buyer and decent value return.
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Post#238 » by dirkules_41 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 12:16 pm

arkuo wrote:Anyone else noticed that an ever active in social media Luka Doncic is pretty quiet about the trade when the whole NBA has already commented on Twitter Facebook and Instagram? Luka knows what's up. FO is probably cooking up one more move prior to Thursday.

He's always very quiet on these matters until after official communications are made - a true pro. Even when Boban was moved etc he didn't post until a few days later from memory.
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Post#239 » by arkuo » Mon Feb 6, 2023 12:20 pm

dirkules_41 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
arkuo wrote:

Risk is an overblown narrative thrown around by the media. Cuban spends close to $200M a year maintaining the team. That comes with player salaries, private planes, facilities, employees etc. Kyrie's money that the other people are afraid to pay is already accounted for. So instead of giving that $36M to guys like Powell and THJ every year, just give it to Kyrie and see if it makes a difference. That money is spent anyway. People worried about a billionaire spending on a team like that money is going to feed Africa or something. That money has been accounted for from the start of the year. It's already spent.

Risk tolerance varies from person to person. A youtube vlogger highlights Mavs' risk while earning minimum wage is very different from Cuban's tolerance. That $197M contract of Kyrie will pay for itself when Cuban opens his casino.


I'm not talking about the money, but what to do, if you give Kyrie a longterm contract and it doesn't work out? It's a gamble and like I said, in situation Mavs are, a gamble worth taking.

You trade him again, as we've just seen his insane on court abilities will always find a buyer and decent value return.


Send Kyrie to the Knicks for Brunson and picks :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Post#240 » by Bob8 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 12:23 pm

dirkules_41 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
arkuo wrote:

Risk is an overblown narrative thrown around by the media. Cuban spends close to $200M a year maintaining the team. That comes with player salaries, private planes, facilities, employees etc. Kyrie's money that the other people are afraid to pay is already accounted for. So instead of giving that $36M to guys like Powell and THJ every year, just give it to Kyrie and see if it makes a difference. That money is spent anyway. People worried about a billionaire spending on a team like that money is going to feed Africa or something. That money has been accounted for from the start of the year. It's already spent.

Risk tolerance varies from person to person. A youtube vlogger highlights Mavs' risk while earning minimum wage is very different from Cuban's tolerance. That $197M contract of Kyrie will pay for itself when Cuban opens his casino.


I'm not talking about the money, but what to do, if you give Kyrie a longterm contract and it doesn't work out? It's a gamble and like I said, in situation Mavs are, a gamble worth taking.

You trade him again, as we've just seen his insane on court abilities will always find a buyer and decent value return.


Every time is a little more difficult and Kyrie getting older for sure won't help either.

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