Game 66 March 12, 2011: Mavs Vs Lakers

JES12 · Post #241 » by **JES12** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:35 am

Haywood got 8 rebounts, 4 points, 1 ast, 1 blk in 13 minutes.... :sigh:

ahonui06 · Post #242 » by **ahonui06** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:35 am

dyukcs wrote:
ahonui06 wrote:
dyukcs wrote:
He was excellent, especially at the end. He wasn't the only one turning it over. When Dirk hustles and battles for rebounds I can't say anything bad about him.

Terry needed to hit that shot, we started the game braindead, and ended the third quarter the same way.

Bynum impressed the hell out of me, every single time he got good position he converted. We don't have an answer for that.

Roddy choked, and I've never seen that before. Like idk what it was, maybe because the game was so hyped, but he's crucial in our match-up against them. Roddy guarded by Fisher has got to be one of our advantages.

The answer for Bynum is Haywood. Blame RC. Haywood matches up well with Bynum and other stronger, bigger post players.

And Bynum still had his way with him. He did better than Chandler, but giving up 75% still isn't that good. Bynum is taller and has a length advantage against Haywood, which Haywood isn't as used to.

Haywood only played 13 minutes. Ridiculous. He also outrebounded Chandler by 2 with 23 less minutes played.

JES12 · Post #243 » by **JES12** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:36 am

And they both had 4 points.

Deus · Post #244 » by **Deus** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:38 am

Poor three point shooting by Terry and Kidd. They went 2-9 from the 3 point stripe. Not good.
Roddy was awful. Nerves maybe?
Bynum was too much for Chandler and Haywood. The two of them scored 8 points combined. Bynum 22.
Kobe was embarrassed by Marion. Loved watching him whine to the refs.
Dirk outplayed Gasol. But what else is new.

Good game overall. We just couldn't hit a single shot in the first half.

dyukcs · Post #245 » by **dyukcs** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:38 am

Holy crap I thought Haywood played more, that's a seriously bad move by Carlisle. Chandler was better against Gasol, but still. I don't think he trusts Haywood free throw shooting to close, but still.

Haywood needs to play more than Chandler against the Lakers.

ahonui06 · Post #246 » by **ahonui06** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:39 am

JES12 wrote:And they both had 4 points.

Precisely. RC is just terrible at making situational adjustments.

It's obvious that Haywood excels at defending the bigger, stronger post players while Chandler gets backed down and exposed.

TC is better with the more agile, quicker ones.

ahonui06 · Post #247 » by **ahonui06** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:40 am

scramm wrote:Poor three point shooting by Terry and Kidd. They went 2-9 from the 3 point stripe. Not good.
Roddy was awful. Nerves maybe?
Bynum was too much for Chandler and Haywood. The two of them scored 8 points combined. Bynum 22.
Kobe was embarrassed by Marion. Loved watching him whine to the refs.
Dirk outplayed Gasol. But what else is new.

Good game overall. We just couldn't hit a single shot in the first half.

Haywood handled Bynum fairly well. Would be nice if that senile old bastard Bavetta called some over the backs on Bynum.

druggas · Post #248 » by **druggas** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:41 am

I don't know, I'd be letting Dirk shoot every time with 5 minutes left in the game.

He could come off of 20 screens if need be to get his shot. He is by far the best shooter on the court no matter who he's playing against.

Ride him until he breaks down.

JES12 · Post #249 » by **JES12** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:42 am

dyukcs wrote:Holy crap I thought Haywood played more, that's a seriously bad move by Carlisle. Chandler was better against Gasol, but still. I don't think he trusts Haywood free throw shooting to close, but still.

Haywood needs to play more than Chandler against the Lakers.

I don't know how all of us can know something and Rick be completely clueless. Once Bynum started to get hot, he should have had Haywood in every second Bynum was with Chandler in everytime Gasol played center. When Gasol plays PF, Dirk needs to cover him.

We know the players Haywood is money against...Rick doesn't.

sweet daddy · Post #250 » by **sweet daddy** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:43 am

This team is just so ... beatable.

In 30 years I've never seen a Mavericks team that I really believed was capable of winning a championship, and I don't think this one can, either. Whatever it is that makes a team a champion, this one doesn't have it. I wish I didn't feel that way, but I do. :roll:

dyukcs · Post #251 » by **dyukcs** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:46 am

This loss doesn't upset me as much as some of the others. Barea and Roddy will hopefully play better. Terry insists on being a bad defender, even when he's not dealing with a height disadvantage.

I love Marion in the starting line up so much. I hope it sticks when Peja gets back. But Carlisle needs to trust Brewer more, playing Cardinal for 15 minutes a game won't work.

I was trying to scout for 3 things, how well we crashed the boards, the Roddy/Barea vs Fisher/Blake match-up, and how we defended the paint. We out-rebounded them, Roddy choked, Barea got locked down, Bynum killed us but we contained Gasol.

I really expected the PG match-up to go strongly in our favor, so that sucked. But idk, we'll see if it improves.

JES12 · Post #252 » by **JES12** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:46 am

scramm wrote:Poor three point shooting by Terry and Kidd. They went 2-9 from the 3 point stripe. Not good.

Our entire backcourt (Kidd, Barea, Terry, Roddy) was 2/11 from 3 and 11/34 from the field with the only two free throws by Barea.

I don't know if we could expect to beat the Cavaliers with that performance.

druggas · Post #253 » by **druggas** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:47 am

sweet daddy wrote:This team is just so ... beatable.

In 30 years I've never seen a Mavericks team that I really believed was capable of winning a championship, and I don't think this one can, either. Whatever it is that makes a team a champion, this one doesn't have it. I wish I didn't feel that way, but I do.

Injuries can change everything.

dyukcs · Post #254 » by **dyukcs** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:49 am

JES12 wrote:
scramm wrote:Poor three point shooting by Terry and Kidd. They went 2-9 from the 3 point stripe. Not good.

Our entire backcourt (Kidd, Barea, Terry, Roddy) was 2/11 from 3 and 11/34 from the field with the only two free throws by Barea.

I don't know if we could expect to beat the Cavaliers with that performance.

You have to credit their defense. Most of those were heavily contested.

JES12 · Post #255 » by **JES12** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:52 am

dyukcs wrote:
JES12 wrote:
scramm wrote:Poor three point shooting by Terry and Kidd. They went 2-9 from the 3 point stripe. Not good.

Our entire backcourt (Kidd, Barea, Terry, Roddy) was 2/11 from 3 and 11/34 from the field with the only two free throws by Barea.

I don't know if we could expect to beat the Cavaliers with that performance.

You have to credit their defense. Most of those were heavily contested.

Not in the first half.

dyukcs · Post #256 » by **dyukcs** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:54 am

The hardest part about this game was trying to watch a line-up with Barea and Cardinal but no Marion try to make a comback, then a line-up with Cardinal and no Dirk trying to make a comeback. Until we finally have Marion-Dirk and and we make the comeback.

Carlisle really needs to tweak this rotation. It's hurt us in all of the last 5 games, we can pull it off against the Timberwolves but not the Lakers.

dyukcs · Post #257 » by **dyukcs** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:56 am

JES12 wrote:Not in the first half.

The 3s were contested, they gave up a million open midrange shots we couldn't hit.

Ice32 · Post #258 » by **Ice32** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:02 am

Roddy is a liability on the defensive end at 6'2. Brewer is 6'9 and long, he should be getting more mins.

Cardinal should not be getting 17 mins per game (over his last 4).

Marion was awesome today and should remain the starting SF. Peja should just get gargabe mins now. With just 16 games left, we need a solid 10 man rotation set and the focus has to be on keeping the 2nd seed in the West. We have a 1 game lead on the Lakers, so every game is crucial between now and the Playoffs.

Deus · Post #259 » by **Deus** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:06 am

dyukcs wrote:The hardest part about this game was trying to watch a line-up with Barea and Cardinal but no Marion try to make a comback, then a line-up with Cardinal and no Dirk trying to make a comeback. Until we finally have Marion-Dirk and and we make the comeback.

Carlisle really needs to tweak this rotation. It's hurt us in all of the last 5 games, we can pull it off against the Timberwolves but not the Lakers.

Rick should have played Mahinmi instead of Cardinal for his inside game. But he likes Cardinal because he does things like foul players really hard like Matt Barnes. Did you see Cardinal's line?

3 points, 0 rebounds, 1 block, and 3 fouls in 16 minutes.

dyukcs · Post #260 » by **dyukcs** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:10 am

Ice32 wrote:Roddy is a liability on the defensive end at 6'2. Brewer is 6'9 and long, he should be getting more mins.

Cardinal should not be getting 17 mins per game (over his last 4).

Marion was awesome today and should remain the starting SF. Peja should just get gargabe mins now. With just 16 games left, we need a solid 10 man rotation set and the focus has to be on keeping the 2nd seed in the West. We have a 1 game lead on the Lakers, so every game is crucial between now and the Playoffs.

Roddy's defense wasn't the problem at all. He was guarding Fisher, and Kidd was guarding Artest, neither one did anything against us. He was a turnover machine that couldn't hit a shot on offense. That was probably the worst performance of his career.

Honestly after this I'm not really afraid of the Lakers. We can beat them if we have HCA.