Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1)

[daoneandonly]

If we were to go after a PF, I'd take Thad Young over Marcus Morris all day, every day

[J_T]

If we were to go after a PF, I'd take Thad Young over Marcus Morris all day, every day

Absolutely. Morris is simply terrible as a person. The way he screwed Spurs over was really something.

[Darren]

If we were to go after a PF, I'd take Thad Young over Marcus Morris all day, every day

Absolutely. Morris is simply terrible as a person. The way he screwed Spurs over was really something.

Morris just finished the Clippers game with 38 points and 6 threes made. This game is actually pretty closed. I think it is one of the most likely trade partner by deadline. Morris and Ntilikina for ill-fitting pieces and pick is fine. The Mavs creates little rooms to land FVV as well. This could be one of the best case scenario before 2020 offseason. Morris is expiring.

For example, Morris and Ntilikina for Powell, Wright, Brunson and a second could be perfect for the Mavs. I think it is significant upgrade defensively. Morris is also underrated as energy player and scoring punch. Adding Josh Reaves to the roster maybe with Amir Johnson (Broekhoff waived?). The Mavs should be fine upfront as well.

C - KP / Kleber / Boban
PF - Morris / Amir / Roby
SF - DFS / JJ 2.0 / Lee
SG - TH / Curry / Reaves
PG - Luka / Ntilikina / JJ 1.0

I think Seth and Ntilikina complement each other very well.

[daoneandonly]

Good grief Darren, almost every trade scenario for you somehow involves FVV. We dont need him, we have Luka Delon Curry and Brunson

[Darren]

Brunson is awful defensively. Wright is also inconsistent even on the defensive end. The playmaking is not very good. There's a reason behind the poor bench play this season. Brunson and Wright are both not up to standard. I'd rather have a consistent pick-n-roll mate for KP who's having very inconsistent season as a 2nd option. Curry should take more initiative.

[daoneandonly]

I wouldnt, FVV is going to get a new contract that is surely going to be a dreadful contract. The only thing I can 100% agree with you on is Brunson sucks on defense, no debating that.

[arkuo]

You're planning to pay top dollar for bootleg versions of players we actually want. FVV is going to get a huge contract from someone and hopefully that won't be us.

If you'd like another playmaker who can play good defense and play some off ball action, then I'd call OKC for Dennis Schroeder. His contract matches up with Courtney Lee and Schroeder is signed on for one more year that means 2021 is safe. That saves that small market team from going into lux tax. Add a 2nd rounder to sweeten it. Donnie drafts 20 Justin Andersons for every one Luka Doncic anyway. If it's not another wing we draft, then it's a son of Carlisle's friend as a favor. So yeah.

[ejs78]

Not the same level offensively, but I don't trust the Mavs to stop Gobert on the glass in the playoffs.

Here's my take on this center/power forward debacle.

You build your team to compete with the best of the western conference.

Lakers - AD and Dwight Howard
Clippers - Harrell and Harkless (on top of PG13 and Kawhi)
Denver - Jokic and Milsap

And we only got Dwight Powell and KP. If we plan to butt heads with those teams in a 7 game series, you're gonna need more than a Kristaps Porzingis bean pole guarding Dwight Howard and AD. You're going to need to match up well with the top teams otherwise you're playing for regular season wins against bad teams and Luka gets an award for most triple doubles in the regular season. Our defense is not there yet. We are not playing playoff level defense and that is due to the lack of manpower for us to be able to roll that out.

One more piece IMO. Maybe a Robert Covington at PF? Maybe Drummond can help out. Who knows. I myself have my own doubts if Drummond can work here. But in comparison, Drummond only needs to play like prime Amare Stoudamire to be effective here. Luka can make plays the same as Nash. Everything else falls in their place.

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[ejs78]

Not the same level offensively, but I don't trust the Mavs to stop Gobert on the glass in the playoffs if that matchup were to happen.

Here's my take on this center/power forward debacle.

You build your team to compete with the best of the western conference.

Lakers - AD and Dwight Howard
Clippers - Harrell and Harkless (on top of PG13 and Kawhi)
Denver - Jokic and Milsap

And we only got Dwight Powell and KP. If we plan to butt heads with those teams in a 7 game series, you're gonna need more than a Kristaps Porzingis bean pole guarding Dwight Howard and AD. You're going to need to match up well with the top teams otherwise you're playing for regular season wins against bad teams and Luka gets an award for most triple doubles in the regular season. Our defense is not there yet. We are not playing playoff level defense and that is due to the lack of manpower for us to be able to roll that out.

One more piece IMO. Maybe a Robert Covington at PF? Maybe Drummond can help out. Who knows. I myself have my own doubts if Drummond can work here. But in comparison, Drummond only needs to play like prime Amare Stoudamire to be effective here. Luka can make plays the same as Nash. Everything else falls in their place.

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[DJ_3_Ball]

You build your team to compete with the best of the western conference...

I come at this from a different standpoint philosophically.

If I'm in the AFC East at any point over the past 15 years, then yeah, I gotta think about beating 1 team. I start out my season 0-2, I only have 14 more chances to make up that deficit, and I can't plan on winning the division. That's a problem.

But, this is the NBA. 8 teams make the playoffs, and it doesn't matter if you go 0-4 vs 1 team. Like, I don't think the Mavs ever built their roster to beat the Spurs. Because you don't know if you're going to face them or you were going to face the Lakers or the Rockets or Phoenix or whoever. Let's say you build your team to beat the Spurs, but you face D'Antoni's Suns in the 1st round & they run you off the court. So, you don't even get make it to face the Spurs.

Or, you make it to the WCF, but the Spurs bow out in the 2nd round, and now you're up against a polar opposite team & you constructed your team to beat just one style, one opponent.

I think you build your team to do what it's going to do & you let the opponent worry about matching up with you.

There might be some value in adding versatility wherever you can, but I don't see making any core changes to the fabric of your team just for the benefit of one or two opponents being a very wise decision.

[arkuo]

Crazy idea, but you know who would actually make an awesome PF here? Ben Simmons. He scores 99% of his shots from lobs and around the rim just like Powell But he can defend way better than Powell and would be a 2nd playmaker off Luka, which he actually can.

Imagine KP hanging by the 3 pt line giving Luka and Simmons a ton of space for the P&R. Basically what we are doing now, just replace Powell with Simmons. Powell doesn't shoot threes either so there's nothing to lose there. Unlike the Sixers who need Ben to shoot the 3 so Embiid can have space, it's the reverse here with Ben needed inside with KP at the 3 pt line. It actually makes sense. Trading for him is a totally different story. I'd wait for the Sixers to implode. A lot of things just isn't working with that tandem of Embiid and Simmons (Embiid calling out Simmons via the media), them lacking a real PG who can shoot, and Al Horford complaining that he isn't being used enough. With Simmons, Tobias Harris, Embiid and Horford all about to make the max soon, something's gotta give and Elton Brand is on the clock to win something.

[Pinkyring]

Crazy idea, but you know who would actually make an awesome PF here? Ben Simmons. He scores 99% of his shots from lobs and around the rim just like Powell But he can defend way better than Powell and would be a 2nd playmaker off Luka, which he actually can.

Imagine KP hanging by the 3 pt line giving Luka and Simmons a ton of space for the P&R. Basically what we are doing now, just replace Powell with Simmons. Powell doesn't shoot threes either so there's nothing to lose there. Unlike the Sixers who need Ben to shoot the 3 so Embiid can have space, it's the reverse here with Ben needed inside with KP at the 3 pt line. It actually makes sense. Trading for him is a totally different story. I'd wait for the Sixers to implode. A lot of things just isn't working with that tandem of Embiid and Simmons (Embiid calling out Simmons via the media), them lacking a real PG who can shoot, and Al Horford complaining that he isn't being used enough. With Simmons, Tobias Harris, Embiid and Horford all about to make the max soon, something's gotta give and Elton Brand is on the clock to win something.

So u wrote 2 paragraphs about a player we have zero chance to acquire?

[The Sparest]

Is anyone interested in Dewayne Dedmon? He has 2 years at 13.3 left on his deal, but the last year is only 1 mill guaranteed. He would help with rebounding and interior defense, plus he has shown some ability to shoot the 3ball.

[ejs78]

If Bogdanovic comes with.

I'll say it for the 1.5 millionth time....Richaun Holmes could have been had for half of what Powell got and I'll never understand having ZERO interest in him.

Is anyone interested in Dewayne Dedmon? He has 2 years at 13.3 left on his deal, but the last year is only 1 mill guaranteed. He would help with rebounding and interior defense, plus he has shown some ability to shoot the 3ball.

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[The Sparest]

If Bogdanovic comes with.

I'll say it for the 1.5 millionth time....Richaun Holmes could have been had for half of what Powell got and I'll never understand having ZERO interest in him.

Is anyone interested in Dewayne Dedmon? He has 2 years at 13.3 left on his deal, but the last year is only 1 mill guaranteed. He would help with rebounding and interior defense, plus he has shown some ability to shoot the 3ball.

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I was also on the Holmes bandwagon, but we couldn't have used Powell's money on Holmes anyway since Powell was already signed for this season. Powell signed an extension for the next 3 seasons (which is another argument), he picked up his option for this season. We could have used the MLE we used for Curry on Holmes, and in hindsight should have.

As for Bogs, I don't think 3pt shooting is hurting us nearly as much as the fact Stephen Hawking can score in the paint on us when KP is out.

[dirkforpres]

If Bogdanovic comes with.

I'll say it for the 1.5 millionth time....Richaun Holmes could have been had for half of what Powell got and I'll never understand having ZERO interest in him.

Is anyone interested in Dewayne Dedmon? He has 2 years at 13.3 left on his deal, but the last year is only 1 mill guaranteed. He would help with rebounding and interior defense, plus he has shown some ability to shoot the 3ball.

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Dedmon would be nice to have. I’m not sure if we have enough to get back Bogdanovich as well, but I agree that this would be the package I’d be calling about

[ejs78]

I thought Powell opted out and then re signed.

If Bogdanovic comes with.

I'll say it for the 1.5 millionth time....Richaun Holmes could have been had for half of what Powell got and I'll never understand having ZERO interest in him.

Is anyone interested in Dewayne Dedmon? He has 2 years at 13.3 left on his deal, but the last year is only 1 mill guaranteed. He would help with rebounding and interior defense, plus he has shown some ability to shoot the 3ball.

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I was also on the Holmes bandwagon, but we couldn't have used Powell's money on Holmes anyway since Powell was already signed for this season. Powell signed an extension for the next 3 seasons (which is another argument), he picked up his option for this season. We could have used the MLE we used for Curry on Holmes, and in hindsight should have.

As for Bogs, I don't think 3pt shooting is hurting us nearly as much as the fact Stephen Hawking can score in the paint on us when KP is out.

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[J_T]

I thought Powell opted out and then re signed.

If Bogdanovic comes with.

I'll say it for the 1.5 millionth time....Richaun Holmes could have been had for half of what Powell got and I'll never understand having ZERO interest in him.



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I was also on the Holmes bandwagon, but we couldn't have used Powell's money on Holmes anyway since Powell was already signed for this season. Powell signed an extension for the next 3 seasons (which is another argument), he picked up his option for this season. We could have used the MLE we used for Curry on Holmes, and in hindsight should have.

As for Bogs, I don't think 3pt shooting is hurting us nearly as much as the fact Stephen Hawking can score in the paint on us when KP is out.

Sure, but even in that case it was not possible, because Powell wouldn't have opted out unless they had agreed to a deal before. Unless you suggest to actually negotiate the deal, wait for him to opt out and then say tough luck, we changed our mind. That would be a very short-sighted "win".

[fuller4379]

Trade the GS second round pick for anyone who knows how to make a bucket in the final two minutes of the game. The Mavs should be at least 28-9 right now.

[dirkforpres]

I think they should sign Noah and trade for Covington